Express article: The education of children of African origin

[MaxPower]

I want to congratulate wasa for the diversity seen in this trainee cohort, that's how it's supposed to be

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Yeh man ofcourse.

Let’s hope the selection process was fair and those properly and suitably qualified were hired.

[maj. tom]

Dangerous idea from the UWI principal

THE EDITOR: At her inaugural address on January 22, UWI St Augustine Prof Rose-Marie Belle Antoine declared that “admissions can no longer be based purely on CAPE results.”

This is a dangerous precedent that should be resisted by parents, students and policymakers. It appears that Antoine is attempting to import affirmative ideas from the US that have already begun to undermine competence in the sciences and even medical practice in that country.

Does anyone really want a B-student cutting into them in an operating theatre or trying to get back their money from a fraudster in court?

The fact is, top-level performance in academics generally predicts competence in a person’s chosen profession. Adding other criteria, such as social activism, does not increase professionalism and, indeed, when such activism is politically driven, may well reflect less adherence to professional standards and ethics.

If these alternative standards are introduced, UWI graduates will also be considered less competent than people who earned their degrees from accredited foreign universities. This will be because nobody will know who got into UWI because of their top grades and who from the victimhood criteria that Antoine favours.

Instead, when hiring people out of, say, UWI’s Law Faculty or Medical School, people will start applying heuristics based on criteria other than grades, since they will know this is no longer a reliable indicator of learning. This will actually disadvantage the people the new UWI principal claims to want to help.

JENSEN RUSHTON

San Fernando

The person who wrote this opinion probably never attended university (or maybe did gender studies) or has any higher qualifications than CXC grades, nor ever read about criteria for acceptance into top university programmes in the world. While entry grades do matter by a tremendous factor, it is just the bare minimum of a successful individual at the end of reading a degree and applying skillfully it at profession. Also Medical and Law schools in USA/Canada are post-graduate levels of education that generally require much more than just grades.

[Mmoney607]

Dangerous idea from the UWI principal

THE EDITOR: At her inaugural address on January 22, UWI St Augustine Prof Rose-Marie Belle Antoine declared that “admissions can no longer be based purely on CAPE results.”

This is a dangerous precedent that should be resisted by parents, students and policymakers. It appears that Antoine is attempting to import affirmative ideas from the US that have already begun to undermine competence in the sciences and even medical practice in that country.

Does anyone really want a B-student cutting into them in an operating theatre or trying to get back their money from a fraudster in court?

The fact is, top-level performance in academics generally predicts competence in a person’s chosen profession. Adding other criteria, such as social activism, does not increase professionalism and, indeed, when such activism is politically driven, may well reflect less adherence to professional standards and ethics.

If these alternative standards are introduced, UWI graduates will also be considered less competent than people who earned their degrees from accredited foreign universities. This will be because nobody will know who got into UWI because of their top grades and who from the victimhood criteria that Antoine favours.

Instead, when hiring people out of, say, UWI’s Law Faculty or Medical School, people will start applying heuristics based on criteria other than grades, since they will know this is no longer a reliable indicator of learning. This will actually disadvantage the people the new UWI principal claims to want to help.

JENSEN RUSHTON

San Fernando

The person who wrote this opinion probably never attended university (or maybe did gender studies) or has any higher qualifications than CXC grades, nor ever read about criteria for acceptance into top university programmes in the world. While entry grades do matter by a tremendous factor, it is just the bare minimum of a successful individual at the end of reading a degree and applying skillfully it at profession. Also Medical and Law schools in USA/Canada are post-graduate levels of education that generally require much more than just grades.

Great point. But uwi is really purely grades, they don't ask about anything else. But great point none the less. The makaandal daaga scholarship is not a bad idea, it's just if it falls into the wrong hands. Eg. Marcelle

[maj. tom]

Right so UWI actually trying to expand their criteria to improve their standings and overall standards. I don't know what that person is on about.

[matr1x]

Diversity: when your education system has no other legs to stand on.


It's time for afro trinis to stop making excuses

[alfa]

Dangerous idea from the UWI principal

THE EDITOR: At her inaugural address on January 22, UWI St Augustine Prof Rose-Marie Belle Antoine declared that “admissions can no longer be based purely on CAPE results.”

This is a dangerous precedent that should be resisted by parents, students and policymakers. It appears that Antoine is attempting to import affirmative ideas from the US that have already begun to undermine competence in the sciences and even medical practice in that country.

Does anyone really want a B-student cutting into them in an operating theatre or trying to get back their money from a fraudster in court?

The fact is, top-level performance in academics generally predicts competence in a person’s chosen profession. Adding other criteria, such as social activism, does not increase professionalism and, indeed, when such activism is politically driven, may well reflect less adherence to professional standards and ethics.

If these alternative standards are introduced, UWI graduates will also be considered less competent than people who earned their degrees from accredited foreign universities. This will be because nobody will know who got into UWI because of their top grades and who from the victimhood criteria that Antoine favours.

Instead, when hiring people out of, say, UWI’s Law Faculty or Medical School, people will start applying heuristics based on criteria other than grades, since they will know this is no longer a reliable indicator of learning. This will actually disadvantage the people the new UWI principal claims to want to help.

JENSEN RUSHTON

San Fernando

The person who wrote this opinion probably never attended university (or maybe did gender studies) or has any higher qualifications than CXC grades, nor ever read about criteria for acceptance into top university programmes in the world. While entry grades do matter by a tremendous factor, it is just the bare minimum of a successful individual at the end of reading a degree and applying skillfully it at profession. Also Medical and Law schools in USA/Canada are post-graduate levels of education that generally require much more than just grades.

What are some other factors besides grades?

[maj. tom]

As an example for what top ranked universities look for:

Each case is different. Some students distinguish themselves for admission with their unusual academic promise through experience or achievements in study or research. Other students present compelling cases because they are more "well-rounded," having contributed in many different ways to their schools or communities. Still other successful applicants are "well-lopsided" with demonstrated excellence in one particular endeavor. Some students bring perspectives formed by unusual personal circumstances or experiences. Like many colleges, we seek to admit dynamic, talented, and diverse students who will contribute significantly to the education of their classmates.
https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/how-important-are-extracurricular-activities-admissions-decisions

+ an impressive admission essay then sometimes an interview to a panel out of hundreds of prospective students for many post-grad schools like med. Grades don't mean anything since all applying already obviously have the top grades. In the real world after all the education, grades still mean nothing on a job application compared to a qualified apprenticeship with good experience and heavy-weighing recommendation letters from other top people in the field of study. Lots of high-responsibility careers have to go through another period of internship after qualifying with a degree before they apply to specialities and this is where real skill and experience training develops to be marketable for employment. Grades are not everything.

[wing]

As an example for what top ranked universities look for:

Each case is different. Some students distinguish themselves for admission with their unusual academic promise through experience or achievements in study or research. Other students present compelling cases because they are more "well-rounded," having contributed in many different ways to their schools or communities. Still other successful applicants are "well-lopsided" with demonstrated excellence in one particular endeavor. Some students bring perspectives formed by unusual personal circumstances or experiences. Like many colleges, we seek to admit dynamic, talented, and diverse students who will contribute significantly to the education of their classmates.
https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/how-important-are-extracurricular-activities-admissions-decisions

+ an impressive admission essay then sometimes an interview to a panel out of hundreds of prospective students for many post-grad schools like med. Grades don't mean anything since all applying already obviously have the top grades. In the real world after all the education, grades still mean nothing on a job application compared to a qualified apprenticeship with good experience and heavy-weighing recommendation letters from other top people in the field of study. Lots of high-responsibility careers have to go through another period of internship after qualifying with a degree before they apply to specialities and this is where real skill and experience training develops to be marketable for employment. Grades are not everything.

Almost everything money 607 posts, is tinged with racist or political undertones/overtones. It's fascinating to see how fast he gobbled up the opinion of the writer without thinking, despite it being clearly a dog whistle to the racist and classist segment.

[maj. tom]

ohhhh......that's what he meant? sheit i didn't even see what dog whistle yes.

[Mmoney607]

Wait. So posting someone else's opinion article is a dog whistle? I didn't comment on it. I disagree with the opinion but I still posted it. You do not understand civil discourse

[timelapse]

Modern African education:
Wakanda is a real place

[paid_influencer]

de-emphasizing test scores to enable the sequestration of university spots for access by the politically connected

it fits completely with our profile as a banana republic. it is what it is

[ruffneck_12]

Education free, and men have land a stone's throw from the Central Bank of the country,
But yet the African community refuses to recognize the gifts they have.

Syrians came here with nothing and basically own the country now.

Injuns just had land in the middle of nowhere, now Chagaunas is basically the new capital of Trinidad.

Venes come here with nothing too, 10 men sleeping in a room and pooling incomes to pay rent to prosper

Chinese people do the same with restaurants and work their way up.

Japan had two nukes dropped on them, and get hit with an Earthquake/Tsnunami every other year. Yet they prosper.

But Africans? "Shieeeeeeeeet, Everybody affi ask where me get me Clarks. Gubment hadda mind my chirren"

[Gladiator]

Education free, and men have land a stone's throw from the Central Bank of the country,
But yet the African community refuses to recognize the gifts they have.

Syrians came here with nothing and basically own the country now.

Injuns just had land in the middle of nowhere, now Chagaunas is basically the new capital of Trinidad.

Venes come here with nothing too, 10 men sleeping in a room and pooling incomes to pay rent to prosper

Chinese people do the same with restaurants and work their way up.

Japan had two nukes dropped on them, and get hit with an Earthquake/Tsnunami every other year. Yet they prosper.

But Africans? "Shieeeeeeeeet, Everybody affi ask where me get me Clarks. Gubment hadda mind my chirren"

and its the same in every country with multi ethnic populations... someone needs to research this

[ruffneck_12]

Education free, and men have land a stone's throw from the Central Bank of the country,
But yet the African community refuses to recognize the gifts they have.

Syrians came here with nothing and basically own the country now.

Injuns just had land in the middle of nowhere, now Chagaunas is basically the new capital of Trinidad.

Venes come here with nothing too, 10 men sleeping in a room and pooling incomes to pay rent to prosper

Chinese people do the same with restaurants and work their way up.

Japan had two nukes dropped on them, and get hit with an Earthquake/Tsnunami every other year. Yet they prosper.

But Africans? "Shieeeeeeeeet, Everybody affi ask where me get me Clarks. Gubment hadda mind my chirren"

and its the same in every country with multi ethnic populations... someone needs to research this

Every IQ map of the world shows the same trend.



Evolutionary, it makes sense. Life started there, and continued to evolve. It take's intelligence to traverse far distances.

South Korea is quite far from the motherland, look how high their average IQ is. >105

[De Dragon]

I forget which thread it was, probably one of the SEA results threads from last year. Prestige school mindset is a completely different beast. It have plenty of these young students who kicking ball, beating pan, going party and then winning scholarships after CAPE results come out.

It all comes down to IQ. If you brilliant you could do anything and still pass and these prestige schools have the most brilliant minds placed there. Easy wuk to be a teacher in one of those schools

Not just an above average IQ, but a strong work ethic instilled by a supportive home and guided by motivated teachers.

Rich, coming from a LFD RFD PNM handout supporter