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Re: Reopening Bars, Restaurants, Gyms & Cinemas in T&T - The new normal

Postby hover11 » September 16th, 2021, 3:50 pm

Please remember what affects that survival rate is age , comorbidities , diet and lifestyle those factors still play key roles
redmanjp wrote:know that in the event delta overwhelms hospitals with unvaxxed ppl and you cant get treatment, that 2% rate is going to go up. who knows, maybe 5-10% ?

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Postby supercharged turbo » September 18th, 2021, 11:33 am

Any press conference today with the PM?Not seeing the usual notice by this time

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Postby eitech » September 18th, 2021, 11:35 am

One on going now. Just the same room ole rehearsed questions and answers by panel and media
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Postby bluefete » September 18th, 2021, 11:35 am

supercharged turbo wrote:Any press conference today with the PM?Not seeing the usual notice by this time


They too busy still trying to find Nicki's cousin's friend.

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Postby supercharged turbo » September 18th, 2021, 12:19 pm

bluefete wrote:
supercharged turbo wrote:Any press conference today with the PM?Not seeing the usual notice by this time


They too busy still trying to find Nicki's cousin's friend.
At this point,I wouldn't put anything past this government

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Re: Reopening Bars, Restaurants, Gyms & Cinemas in T&T - The new normal

Postby ruffneck_12 » September 18th, 2021, 9:40 pm

Stop calling it the 'new normal' please

Nothing about this is normal and it should not be normalized.


Natural Immunity gang rise up.

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Postby K74T » September 23rd, 2021, 2:50 pm

STARTING FROM MONDAY, OCTOBER 11, Cinemas, Entertainment venues, gyms, casinos, betting shops, restaurants, bars etc will be allowed to reopen as SAFE ZONES for vaccinated persons 12 years and older ONLY. Owners of these establishments will also be duty bound to ensure that all employees at these establishments are FULLY VACCINATED.

These venues will be allowed to operate at 50% capacity.

In the initial instance, alcohol will not be allowed to be consumed on the premises.

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Postby DTAC » September 23rd, 2021, 2:55 pm

K74T wrote:In the initial instance, alcohol will not be allowed to be consumed on the premises.

Poor Felicity. Will still be a (partial) ghost town. :cry:

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Postby redmanjp » September 23rd, 2021, 3:34 pm

http://www.newsday.co.tt/2021/09/23/cinemas-restaurants-bars-to-open-for-vaccinated-patrons-only/

Cinemas, restaurants, bars to open for vaccinated patrons only
RYAN HAMILTON-DAVIS 17 MINUTES AGO

From October 11, cinemas, restaurants, casinos, fitness centres and bars will be open – but to vaccinated members of the public.

The Prime Minister made the announcement at a press conference at the Diplomatic Centre on Thursday.

“Last fortnight we said we will move toward operating our food-service business places and entertainment places as safe zones. We will provide approval for restaurants, cinemas, bars, theatres, to be utilised by the population – but by the vaccinated population,” Dr Rowley said.

Minister in the Office of the Prime Minister Stuart Young explained that the approvals would be for fully vaccinated people over the age of 12.

He added, “In these safe zones, the owners of the safe zones are required to ensure that the employees operating in these safe zones are fully vaccinated. They will also be required to have proof of vaccination.”

Young explained that people going into the safe zones would be required to have proof of their vaccination ­­– which in the first instance would be their existing vaccination cards.

A new paper or digital system is being worked on.

The protocols will be enforced by the police and public health officers.

Rowley also warned against falsifying vaccination cards, saying the penalties for falsifying them were “huge.” Young said these penalties will be increased.

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Re: Reopening Bars, Restaurants, Gyms & Cinemas in T&T - The new normal

Postby Ripe Chenette » September 23rd, 2021, 3:49 pm

Why oh why it have to be gyms

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Postby redmanjp » September 23rd, 2021, 4:33 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:Stop calling it the 'new normal' please

Nothing about this is normal and it should not be normalized.


Natural Immunity gang rise up.


New York allows a PCR or antigen test as well


https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass-frequently-asked-questions
What is Excelsior Pass?

Excelsior Pass is a free, voluntary platform that provides secure, digital proof of COVID-19 vaccination or negative test results.

Excelsior Pass can be accessed and stored through the NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app, or through the Excelsior Pass Web Portal and printed. The NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app can be downloaded at no cost from the Apple App Store and Google Play Store.

Excelsior Pass is currently available in more than 10 languages, including English, Spanish, Chinese (traditional and simplified), Russian, Haitian-Creole, Korean, Bengali, Arabic, Italian, Polish, and Yiddish.

Are there different Excelsior Pass types?

There are currently three Excelsior Pass types:

Excelsior Vaccination Pass (available 15 days after the final dose of the vaccine was administered: valid for 365 days)
Excelsior PCR Pass (valid until midnight on the third day after a test)
Excelsior Antigen Pass (valid for 6 hours from the time of a test
)


UK allows natural immunity

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/vaccine-passports

Most covid passports introduced so far have been mobile phone apps that show a QR code or other evidence confirming vaccination status. Some have incorporated testing to minimise discrimination against those who have not been, or cannot be, vaccinated. In most cases it has also been possible to access a paper alternative to prevent digital exclusion for those without smartphones.

In the UK, a vaccine certificate for travel, the NHS COVID Pass, was introduced on 17 May 2021. Since 19 July it has also been possible to use it in certain domestic settings, with ‘high risk’ venues including nightclubs and large events encouraged to use the pass.

The pass is available through the existing general NHS app (which is different to the NHS COVID-19 contact tracing app). Individuals registered with a GP surgery in England can sign up to the app and click through to a QR code confirming their vaccination status, which is available two weeks after a second vaccine dose. A paper alternative is also available. The pass currently includes naturally acquired immunity, shown by a positive PCR test in the last six months and, when used in domestic settings, recent negative test results as well. Evidence of vaccination status is only available to those vaccinated in the UK, EU, or USA.

What are other countries doing?

The countries that first implemented covid passports, Israel and Denmark, both started to phase their schemes out earlier in the summer as case rates dropped, but Israel has now revived its ‘Green Pass’ after a significant increase in cases.

Israel first introduced the ‘Green Pass’, enabling vaccinated citizens to use leisure facilities like gyms and hotels, in February 2021.[14] It was also available to some people who had natural immunity from infection, but test results were not included.[15] The app became available one week after a second vaccine dose and was initially valid until December 2021. It is now valid for six months after a final vaccine dose or recovery from Covid.[16]

Its impact is not entirely clear – there were some reports of small protests, some confusion about how the pass worked, and uneven enforcement by businesses. At the same time, case rates fell, and the Israeli economy largely reopened. It is unclear how much, if any, of that progress was due to the Green Pass.[17] The scheme ended in June 2021, along with other restrictions, as Israel achieved high vaccination rates and low case rates but was reintroduced in July as cases began to rise again.[18]

Denmark introduced the ‘coronapas’ in April 2021. It allowed entry to venues like hairdressers and bars for vaccinated residents or those with a recent negative test result. It was incorporated into a pre-existing health app and could be printed out. Denmark phased out the coronapas in September 2021, with 80% of its citizens fully vaccinated.[19]

The wider EU ‘Digital COVID Certificate’ is a QR code based app that allows travellers to prove that they have been vaccinated, recovered from Covid-19 in the last six months, or have a recent negative test result.[20]

It was initially designed for travel, but many EU member states are using it, or other covid passports, to control entry to venues or events. [21] Ireland, for example, has used the EU certificate as a ‘vaccine pass’ allowing access to indoor hospitality, although it is currently planning to phase this out from the 22 October.[22]

France has introduced the most extensive scheme, requiring some venues with more than 50 people to use its ‘pass sanitaire’ since 21 July. In August this was extended to cafes, restaurants, healthcare settings and long-distance journeys by trains and planes. The announcement of these plans was followed by protests but also an uptick in vaccination rates.

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Postby death365 » September 23rd, 2021, 6:35 pm

Don't forget property tax coming .... owners of bars restaurants and other establishments WILL not mite look the other way, to ensure after being out for so long they making d $$$


BTW hiring a venne woman every day not cheap either.

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Postby daring dragoon » September 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm

big people with common sense so we dont need curfew. everyman responsible for himself. if you want covid wear no mask and dont social distance. simple enough.

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Postby Mmoney607 » September 23rd, 2021, 7:16 pm

redmanjp wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:Stop calling it the 'new normal' please

Nothing about this is normal and it should not be normalized.


Natural Immunity gang rise up.


New York allows a PCR or antigen test as well


https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass-frequently-asked-questions
What is Excelsior Pass?

Excelsior Pass is a free, voluntary platform that provides secure, digital proof of COVID-19 vaccination or negative test results.

Excelsior Pass can be accessed and stored through the NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app, or through the Excelsior Pass Web Portal and printed. The NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app can be downloaded at no cost from the Apple App Store and Google Play Store.

Excelsior Pass is currently available in more than 10 languages, including English, Spanish, Chinese (traditional and simplified), Russian, Haitian-Creole, Korean, Bengali, Arabic, Italian, Polish, and Yiddish.

Are there different Excelsior Pass types?

There are currently three Excelsior Pass types:

Excelsior Vaccination Pass (available 15 days after the final dose of the vaccine was administered: valid for 365 days)
Excelsior PCR Pass (valid until midnight on the third day after a test)
Excelsior Antigen Pass (valid for 6 hours from the time of a test
)


UK allows natural immunity

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/vaccine-passports

Most covid passports introduced so far have been mobile phone apps that show a QR code or other evidence confirming vaccination status. Some have incorporated testing to minimise discrimination against those who have not been, or cannot be, vaccinated. In most cases it has also been possible to access a paper alternative to prevent digital exclusion for those without smartphones.

In the UK, a vaccine certificate for travel, the NHS COVID Pass, was introduced on 17 May 2021. Since 19 July it has also been possible to use it in certain domestic settings, with ‘high risk’ venues including nightclubs and large events encouraged to use the pass.

The pass is available through the existing general NHS app (which is different to the NHS COVID-19 contact tracing app). Individuals registered with a GP surgery in England can sign up to the app and click through to a QR code confirming their vaccination status, which is available two weeks after a second vaccine dose. A paper alternative is also available. The pass currently includes naturally acquired immunity, shown by a positive PCR test in the last six months and, when used in domestic settings, recent negative test results as well. Evidence of vaccination status is only available to those vaccinated in the UK, EU, or USA.

What are other countries doing?

The countries that first implemented covid passports, Israel and Denmark, both started to phase their schemes out earlier in the summer as case rates dropped, but Israel has now revived its ‘Green Pass’ after a significant increase in cases.

Israel first introduced the ‘Green Pass’, enabling vaccinated citizens to use leisure facilities like gyms and hotels, in February 2021.[14] It was also available to some people who had natural immunity from infection, but test results were not included.[15] The app became available one week after a second vaccine dose and was initially valid until December 2021. It is now valid for six months after a final vaccine dose or recovery from Covid.[16]

Its impact is not entirely clear – there were some reports of small protests, some confusion about how the pass worked, and uneven enforcement by businesses. At the same time, case rates fell, and the Israeli economy largely reopened. It is unclear how much, if any, of that progress was due to the Green Pass.[17] The scheme ended in June 2021, along with other restrictions, as Israel achieved high vaccination rates and low case rates but was reintroduced in July as cases began to rise again.[18]

Denmark introduced the ‘coronapas’ in April 2021. It allowed entry to venues like hairdressers and bars for vaccinated residents or those with a recent negative test result. It was incorporated into a pre-existing health app and could be printed out. Denmark phased out the coronapas in September 2021, with 80% of its citizens fully vaccinated.[19]

The wider EU ‘Digital COVID Certificate’ is a QR code based app that allows travellers to prove that they have been vaccinated, recovered from Covid-19 in the last six months, or have a recent negative test result.[20]

It was initially designed for travel, but many EU member states are using it, or other covid passports, to control entry to venues or events. [21] Ireland, for example, has used the EU certificate as a ‘vaccine pass’ allowing access to indoor hospitality, although it is currently planning to phase this out from the 22 October.[22]

France has introduced the most extensive scheme, requiring some venues with more than 50 people to use its ‘pass sanitaire’ since 21 July. In August this was extended to cafes, restaurants, healthcare settings and long-distance journeys by trains and planes. The announcement of these plans was followed by protests but also an uptick in vaccination rates.


Trinidadians will simply ignore these facts

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Postby redmanjp » September 23rd, 2021, 7:34 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:Stop calling it the 'new normal' please

Nothing about this is normal and it should not be normalized.


Natural Immunity gang rise up.


New York allows a PCR or antigen test as well


https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass-frequently-asked-questions
What is Excelsior Pass?

Excelsior Pass is a free, voluntary platform that provides secure, digital proof of COVID-19 vaccination or negative test results.

Excelsior Pass can be accessed and stored through the NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app, or through the Excelsior Pass Web Portal and printed. The NYS Excelsior Pass Wallet app can be downloaded at no cost from the Apple App Store and Google Play Store.

Excelsior Pass is currently available in more than 10 languages, including English, Spanish, Chinese (traditional and simplified), Russian, Haitian-Creole, Korean, Bengali, Arabic, Italian, Polish, and Yiddish.

Are there different Excelsior Pass types?

There are currently three Excelsior Pass types:

Excelsior Vaccination Pass (available 15 days after the final dose of the vaccine was administered: valid for 365 days)
Excelsior PCR Pass (valid until midnight on the third day after a test)
Excelsior Antigen Pass (valid for 6 hours from the time of a test
)


UK allows natural immunity

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/vaccine-passports

Most covid passports introduced so far have been mobile phone apps that show a QR code or other evidence confirming vaccination status. Some have incorporated testing to minimise discrimination against those who have not been, or cannot be, vaccinated. In most cases it has also been possible to access a paper alternative to prevent digital exclusion for those without smartphones.

In the UK, a vaccine certificate for travel, the NHS COVID Pass, was introduced on 17 May 2021. Since 19 July it has also been possible to use it in certain domestic settings, with ‘high risk’ venues including nightclubs and large events encouraged to use the pass.

The pass is available through the existing general NHS app (which is different to the NHS COVID-19 contact tracing app). Individuals registered with a GP surgery in England can sign up to the app and click through to a QR code confirming their vaccination status, which is available two weeks after a second vaccine dose. A paper alternative is also available. The pass currently includes naturally acquired immunity, shown by a positive PCR test in the last six months and, when used in domestic settings, recent negative test results as well. Evidence of vaccination status is only available to those vaccinated in the UK, EU, or USA.

What are other countries doing?

The countries that first implemented covid passports, Israel and Denmark, both started to phase their schemes out earlier in the summer as case rates dropped, but Israel has now revived its ‘Green Pass’ after a significant increase in cases.

Israel first introduced the ‘Green Pass’, enabling vaccinated citizens to use leisure facilities like gyms and hotels, in February 2021.[14] It was also available to some people who had natural immunity from infection, but test results were not included.[15] The app became available one week after a second vaccine dose and was initially valid until December 2021. It is now valid for six months after a final vaccine dose or recovery from Covid.[16]

Its impact is not entirely clear – there were some reports of small protests, some confusion about how the pass worked, and uneven enforcement by businesses. At the same time, case rates fell, and the Israeli economy largely reopened. It is unclear how much, if any, of that progress was due to the Green Pass.[17] The scheme ended in June 2021, along with other restrictions, as Israel achieved high vaccination rates and low case rates but was reintroduced in July as cases began to rise again.[18]

Denmark introduced the ‘coronapas’ in April 2021. It allowed entry to venues like hairdressers and bars for vaccinated residents or those with a recent negative test result. It was incorporated into a pre-existing health app and could be printed out. Denmark phased out the coronapas in September 2021, with 80% of its citizens fully vaccinated.[19]

The wider EU ‘Digital COVID Certificate’ is a QR code based app that allows travellers to prove that they have been vaccinated, recovered from Covid-19 in the last six months, or have a recent negative test result.[20]

It was initially designed for travel, but many EU member states are using it, or other covid passports, to control entry to venues or events. [21] Ireland, for example, has used the EU certificate as a ‘vaccine pass’ allowing access to indoor hospitality, although it is currently planning to phase this out from the 22 October.[22]

France has introduced the most extensive scheme, requiring some venues with more than 50 people to use its ‘pass sanitaire’ since 21 July. In August this was extended to cafes, restaurants, healthcare settings and long-distance journeys by trains and planes. The announcement of these plans was followed by protests but also an uptick in vaccination rates.


Trinidadians will simply ignore these facts


petition the CMO and the PM. who knows they might consider. though they might wait for vax rates to go up first.

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Postby MaxPower » September 23rd, 2021, 7:34 pm

death365 wrote:Don't forget property tax coming .... owners of bars restaurants and other establishments WILL not mite look the other way, to ensure after being out for so long they making d $$$


BTW hiring a venne woman every day not cheap either.


Any any Vene these days not cheap bro.

These people knowing their worth and demand and locals paying even more than they would pay locals.

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#Multipass

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Postby redmanjp » September 23rd, 2021, 11:21 pm

MaxPower wrote:
death365 wrote:Don't forget property tax coming .... owners of bars restaurants and other establishments WILL not mite look the other way, to ensure after being out for so long they making d $$$


BTW hiring a venne woman every day not cheap either.


Any any Vene these days not cheap bro.

These people knowing their worth and demand and locals paying even more than they would pay locals.


hope they vaxxed too

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Postby viedcht » September 24th, 2021, 12:11 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:Stop calling it the 'new normal' please

Nothing about this is normal and it should not be normalized.


Natural Immunity gang rise up.


World should get back to business, fleck all this Covid shttalk.

Open back everything. Who dead, dead.

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Postby DMan7 » September 24th, 2021, 12:29 pm

^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...

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Postby hover11 » September 24th, 2021, 12:32 pm

DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless

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Postby DMan7 » September 24th, 2021, 12:32 pm

hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless


Go take the vaccine already...

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Postby hover11 » September 24th, 2021, 12:35 pm

DMan7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless


Go take the vaccine already...
No thanks

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Postby De Dragon » September 25th, 2021, 12:04 am

The beautiful thing is that you're getting the added benefit of being walled off from the hovers of society :lol: :lol:

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Postby j.o.e » September 25th, 2021, 12:18 am

Time to open up

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Postby st7 » September 25th, 2021, 12:42 am

hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless


Go take the vaccine already...
No thanks



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Postby De Dragon » September 25th, 2021, 3:07 am

st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless


Go take the vaccine already...
No thanks



hover: people die everyday, when your time come it come
also hover: people dying from vaccines

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Trolling anti vaxxers can't seem to stick to one argument :lol:

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Postby daring dragoon » September 25th, 2021, 3:31 am

With all the vaccine, all the jersey mask teary say to make, all the soe an kerfew an we still clocking almost 300 new infevtions a day an yet nobody resign for failure to manage the covid. We spend almost 2 years away from bars , cimemas an others an is like arseholes cant wait to jump on the mix an spend they money just to make they insiginifant self feel big. They want the crefew gone so they can have freedom to go out in the night to go lime in the cinemas an bars.
Me? If i can spend 2 years without it then it shows i dont need it in the first place. Let them go spend they money an make the 1% richer an keep the economy going i will stay home save my money to pay property tax an enjoy my property.

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Postby pugboy » September 25th, 2021, 5:20 am

trollers will be trollers

De Dragon wrote:
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:^ That's what I've been saying for months. Besides who go dead already dying anyways so might as well open back up everything and learn to live with the virus and let that be a permanent solution going forward regardless of what happens with the virus and multiple new variants etc...
Lol then they say I heartless


Go take the vaccine already...
No thanks



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also hover: people dying from vaccines

yawnnnnnnn

Trolling anti vaxxers can't seem to stick to one argument :lol:

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