US may ban TikTok

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says the United States is "certainly looking at" banning Chinese social media apps, including TikTok, suggesting it shared information with the Chinese government, a charge it denied.





https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-bann ... d=71647269

The video app, which is owned by the Chinese company ByteDance, has an estimated 65-80 million active monthly users in the U.S., who share 15-second videos with quick edits, music, and filters.

TikTok has exploded in the last year, with over 175 million downloads in the U.S. and over 1 billion users worldwide.

But since last fall, U.S. lawmakers have been calling for an investigation of TikTok's relationship with its parent company and the Chinese government and of whether those reported ties pose a counterintelligence threat in America.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Should also ban Facebook since they steal people information and sell it to the Chinese and Russians.

[zoom rader]

US should be banning tuner

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

US should be banning tuner

Correct is right

Tuner is PNM and the PNM candidate for Arouca recently called America a sh!thole.

[Ben_spanna]

US should be banning tuner

Correct is right

Tuner is PNM and the PNM candidate for Arouca recently called America a sh!thole.

then stop logging on to Tuner, keep your thoughts to yourself and let it be if you dont like it here!
Whats the problem?

[death365]

ban all social media .... go back to usenet !!!

the future is now , u cant stop it .... China is the new super power

[zoom rader]

US should be banning tuner

Correct is right

Tuner is PNM and the PNM candidate for Arouca recently called America a sh!thole.

then stop logging on to Tuner, keep your thoughts to yourself and let it be if you dont like it here!
Whats the problem?

I log on to tuner cause it's a laught.

The idiots on here is pure entertainment coming from the PNM tuners.

[Ted_v2]

you all dont just go browsing on tiktok and all of a sudden a hour pass jusso?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Amazon Tells Employees to Delete TikTok From Mobile Devices on Security Concerns
TikTok says it is ‘fully committed to respecting the privacy of our users’

Amazon.com Inc. is requiring its hundreds of thousands of employees to remove the TikTok app from mobile devices that can access the company’s email system due to unspecified security risks, the latest high-profile instance in which the app has faced backlash in the U.S.

Amazon said in a staff memo Friday that employees must delete TikTok by Friday to be able to continue accessing their email from their phones. The e-commerce giant said that at this time employees can still use TikTok from an Amazon laptop browser.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-req ... 1594404157

I guess Amazon would not want their internal info accessed by Alibaba

[death365]

china is trying to take over the world via production- low cost and tech, amercia vex cause they cant win with production and they thought they were winning with tech but thats changing now

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

It didn't help either that TikTok users banded together to spoof the Trump rally by pre booking thousands of tickets but never intending to show up, resulting in an empty arena. Just more reason for Trump to push forward to ban the social media platform.

[Dizzy28]

Anyone who has stayed in China and tried to use the internet would understand the level of monitoring and control. Given this I would be wary of any tech company out of China and more so those with links to the CCP.
The parent company of Tik Tok has such links to the CCP I wouldn't doubt they are in cahoots and deserve to be a pariah by western nations.

[death365]

Anyone who has stayed in China and tried to use the internet would understand the level of monitoring and control. Given this I would be wary of any tech company out of China and more so those with links to the CCP.
The parent company of Tik Tok has such links to the CCP I wouldn't doubt they are in cahoots and deserve to be a pariah by western nations.

u do know that 99 % of all electronics are manufactured or assembled in china, so if they want they can install tracking chip or software - all major electronics

[Dizzy28]

Anyone who has stayed in China and tried to use the internet would understand the level of monitoring and control. Given this I would be wary of any tech company out of China and more so those with links to the CCP.
The parent company of Tik Tok has such links to the CCP I wouldn't doubt they are in cahoots and deserve to be a pariah by western nations.

u do know that 99 % of all electronics are manufactured or assembled in china, so if they want they can install tracking chip or software - all major electronics

And they would have to steal that data. With Tik Tok you are giving them permission to take it.

Let them do the harder job of having to work for it

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

We are already being tracked
Google tracking report for Trinidad & Tobago
https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobilit ... _en-GB.pdf

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

The US Mainstream Media has complained about TikTok, there was an article in Washington Post not long ago claiming that pedophiles and dirty old white men use TikTok to jerk off on teenage girls dancing in revealing clothing etc. They called on parents to ban their children from posting videos on TikTok

Honestly while the mainstream media is pretty much retarded, I support any effort to stop China a this point. The Communist regime in that country is guilty of murder of numerous Doctors, Journalists etc.

But if they are banning TikTok based on concerns regarding "Dirty old men watching Teenage girls dancing and Data Privacy" then they need to also ban Facebook since Zuckerberg is the single biggest criminal when it comes to these things. The guy literally steals customers data and sells it to Russia and China who then use it to change the outcome of American election.

The same thing is happening in Trinidad, by stealing customer's data you can create an election campaign to target the right people with the message they want to hear, giving you a massive advantage over the other political party. This is how Trump won the Presidency all thanks to Facebook.

[Dizzy28]

We are already being tracked
Google tracking report for Trinidad & Tobago
https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobilit ... _en-GB.pdf

Tracking location is one thing. Tracking your thoughts and restricting your use/availability of information is another. Communications and IT in China is a different level.

I remember when I was in China the only social media that would work was Instagram. Facebook was blocked and Twitter was blocked. I would share photos on Instagram with the share to Facebook option selected to be able to post stuff so my family could have gotten updated. Whatapp calls didn't work but Viber did.

Google Chrome was also the only browser that was usable. And me being naive at the time tried searching some sensitive Chinese topics which in hindsight wasn't a smart thing to do (Taiwan and Tianamen Square Massacre) Both searches resulted in no results.

I had both TSTT and Digicel Sims with me and roaming only came up once somewhere in the middle of Beijing on the Digicel sim.

[4kin4kar]

Why is this an issue when the US has been stealing data through Facebook and whatsapp for many years. The crap they sell the media about whatsapp encryption is a lie. I am a victim of this, I cannot post the information because it's currently being dealt with legally but they can read every single whatsapp message and don't believe that crap you see about "Speak Freely
WhatsApp Calling lets you talk to your friends and family, even if they're in another country. Just like your messages, WhatsApp calls are end-to-end encrypted so WhatsApp and third parties can't listen to them." lies lies lies, it's just to get the world to feel a sense as security and share everything so they can have access to it. If they both have our information they will fight for it and on what to do with it, sit back, relax and enjoy the game.

[Kewell35]

Hopefully. Tiktok is complete garbage.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

A report from CNBC today revealed TikTok’s allegedly selected a bidder to take over its US, New Zealand, and Australian business — and it’ll reveal who that is very soon. Word is that it’s down to Walmart and Microsoft or Oracle.

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2020/08/31/ ... be-issues/

[paid_influencer]

US House passes bill that could ban TikTok nationwide

The US House of Representatives has passed a landmark bill that could see TikTok banned in America.

It would give the social media giant's Chinese parent company, ByteDance, six months to sell its controlling stake or the app would be blocked in the US.

While the bill passed overwhelmingly in a bipartisan vote, it still needs to clear the Senate and be signed by the president to become law.

...

If the bill does manage to secure approval in the Senate, President Joe Biden has promised to sign it as soon as it lands on his desk.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68556540

[redmanjp]

good. i saw some vids recently that i sure cause mih to lose some brain cells - a woman was licking ice cream emoticons

[maj. tom]

Ok and when they ban it, another company will just fill the gap with a platform for mindless drivel, narcists vanity and plugging onlyfans content. Just like Instagram before it and Facebook before it. And apparently once it's a non-Chinese company it'll be ok? American companies are A-Ok to data mine and sell personal data though?

Obviously they're not even addressing the issue of how unregulated social media is rotting the minds of GenZ and further. btw the Boomers still have the cesspool of Facebook to spread deep state Russian and orange traitor kool-aid propaganda like how the election was stolen and vaccines and masks and 5G are Dr. Fauci's devil weapons. Congress not seeking regulation on that either?

Biden said he will sign the bill if they pass it in both Houses and he won't veto it.

[Cantmis]

Bring back Vine !

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[Les Bain]

Ok and when they ban it, another company will just fill the gap with a platform for mindless drivel, narcists vanity and plugging onlyfans content. Just like Instagram before it and Facebook before it. And apparently once it's a non-Chinese company it'll be ok? American companies are A-Ok to data mine and sell personal data though?

Obviously they're not even addressing the issue of how unregulated social media is rotting the minds of GenZ and further. btw the Boomers still have the cesspool of Facebook to spread deep state Russian and orange traitor kool-aid propaganda like how the election was stolen and vaccines and masks and 5G are Dr. Fauci's devil weapons. Congress not seeking regulation on that either?

Biden said he will sign the bill if they pass it in both Houses and he won't veto it.

I think the problems are that a modicum of tiktokers that push actual stories that never register on traditional and mainstream media, and also China securely has so many countries by their pubes and mostly don't give a sheit about pandering to a country's interests. Where the 'fair and unbiased' tiktok content is concerned, that is too small to make most care, if they associate tiktok as a hive of idiocy.

But tiktok could be wiped out of every country tomorrow, even in China and the damage has already been done. Every social media app has implemented a tiktok-like feature: insta, Youtube shorts, even them tube sites. If America has their way, the 'fair and unbiased' content would likely be destroyed, but the idiocy and its ill effects on influencing minds & behavior will exponentially increase. America (and T&T) already has a population of adults that passed through the education system's no child gets left behind initiative and are basically illiterate with poor comprehension skills. That's an easily swayed political gold mine right there.

[Dizzy28]

Ok and when they ban it, another company will just fill the gap with a platform for mindless drivel, narcists vanity and plugging onlyfans content. Just like Instagram before it and Facebook before it. And apparently once it's a non-Chinese company it'll be ok? American companies are A-Ok to data mine and sell personal data though?

Obviously they're not even addressing the issue of how unregulated social media is rotting the minds of GenZ and further. btw the Boomers still have the cesspool of Facebook to spread deep state Russian and orange traitor kool-aid propaganda like how the election was stolen and vaccines and masks and 5G are Dr. Fauci's devil weapons. Congress not seeking regulation on that either?

Biden said he will sign the bill if they pass it in both Houses and he won't veto it.

That's the beauty of the US 1st amendment, it allows for the speech that you hate. Surely you can't be against fascism but want to rule with fascism.

But how dare the US want to ban an app that is diretly linked to the non democratic ruling party of possibly thier only current peer power and geopolitically competitior. Also when that party bans all similar western products from thier market how dare they take offense?

[maj. tom]

In other news Pornhub and the entire Mindgeek network pulled out of Texas because of a new state law requiring online age verification to watch porn. This definitely will stop the 98% of the other internet used for porn that doesn't require or even comply for verification. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/pornhub-blocks-access-to-site-in-texas-over-age-verification-law/3489066/

[maj. tom]

Ok and when they ban it, another company will just fill the gap with a platform for mindless drivel, narcists vanity and plugging onlyfans content. Just like Instagram before it and Facebook before it. And apparently once it's a non-Chinese company it'll be ok? American companies are A-Ok to data mine and sell personal data though?

Obviously they're not even addressing the issue of how unregulated social media is rotting the minds of GenZ and further. btw the Boomers still have the cesspool of Facebook to spread deep state Russian and orange traitor kool-aid propaganda like how the election was stolen and vaccines and masks and 5G are Dr. Fauci's devil weapons. Congress not seeking regulation on that either?

Biden said he will sign the bill if they pass it in both Houses and he won't veto it.

That's the beauty of the US 1st amendment, it allows for the speech that you hate. Surely you can't be against fascism but want to rule with fascism.

But how dare the US want to ban an app that is diretly linked to the non democratic ruling party of possibly thier only current peer power and geopolitically competitior. Also when that party bans all similar western products from thier market how dare they take offense?

The issue isn't if they ban a Chinese product in view of protecting their national security, no that wasn't my point at all and I have no problem with USA protecting their interests. My argument in fact has nothing to do with China's Tik Tok itself, but social media on the whole.

I was talking about addressing the real concern of the detrimental effects that unregulated social media is having on populations.

Regulation of social media has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment banning anyone's freedom of expression any more than the FCC regulating the airwaves or the government regulating Tobacco advertising and content. Social media companies already privately attempted to self-regulate during Covid by putting warnings and labels on misinformation posts. The US government certainly can apply laws to regulate social media that way by requiring social media companies to review and label posts on their platforms without banning any user content. The same way how there is inevitably going to be regulation on AI created content and artificially edited media to include labels and warning to inform the viewer what they are watching. Regulate necessarily doesn't mean ban or censor in any way that is non-concomitant to the US 1st Amendment. That isn't fascism. Lying about stolen elections, using social media to organize and escalate an attempted coup and stealing top secret documents is fascism.

Tik Tok is just one platform whose time is now, it will eventually go out of vogue and any other will take its place. Companies are already extremely unscrupulous with mining personal data. They are still going to collect it and sell it via 3rd parties through dummy corporations and crypto-scamming pipelines that can easily be controlled by foreign countries with nobody having a clue that it is happening. They still allow foreign entities to control their political landscape through misinformation. Example Facebook! Banning CHINA Tik Tok solves no problem and their infiltration can easily be misdirected by them setting up again with any other registered US company with a new platform operating out of Liechtenstein and nobody will be wiser on any of it. It's just a knee-jerk reaction that has no real meaning in the long run.



As for the data mining and selling.
There is something real and meaningful that can be done about that, and Biden signed an executive order a few weeks ago.

U.S. Limits Sales of Americans’ Personal Data to China, Other Adversaries
https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-to-limit-sales-of-americans-personal-data-to-china-other-adversaries-e82a3ca5

[Bad Dog]

Washington’s Renewed Urgency for TikTok Ban Is Due to War on Gaza.
Here is a few points:
1. Many of TikTok’s users share pro-Palestinian messages far more frequently than pro-Israeli viewports.
2. Washington insiders on both sides of the aisle were spurred to act immediately by the platform’s overwhelming pro-Palestinian content.
3. “People who historically hadn’t taken a position on TikTok became concerned with how Israel was portrayed in the videos and what they saw as an increase in antisemitic content posted to the app.”
4. Members of the China committee believed the platform was exposing users to too much Pro-Palestinian content.

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/03/15/was ... r-on-gaza/

[Dizzy28]

In all this hullabalaoo its important to know that China doesn't even offer the exact same Tik Tok that they pushing on the RoW. Thiers is less entertainment and has more restrictions for kids. Almost as if the Chinese know how wasteful Tik Tok is.

Douyin, the original version of the app, is available only in China, while TikTok is its international counterpart. Despite their shared origins, these platforms have evolved to cater to their respective markets, resulting in distinct features, user demographics, and content preferences.
Accessibility and User Demographics

Douyin is accessible only in mainland China, while TikTok is available globally. This geographical divide has led to distinct user demographics. Douyin is popular among young adults between 18 and 45, with 40% residing in China’s affluent cities. TikTok, on the other hand, has a broader age demographic, with a significant user base in the 35-55 age bracket in the US.
Content Preferences

Content preferences also vary between the two platforms. On Douyin, educational content reigns supreme, with videos offering tips and skills for personal growth. TikTok, conversely, is more art-based, with a focus on music, dance, and narrative videos.

https://www.digitalcrew.com.au/blogs-an ... fferences/

Users under 14 can access only child-safe content and use the app for just 40 minutes a day and. They can't use the app from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Douyin has restrictions in place for users under 14 years old.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/24/tech ... index.html