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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 16th, 2021, 3:05 pm

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Postby VexXx Dogg » August 16th, 2021, 3:23 pm

Duane put dong a guyanese post there yes
pg 2 before pg1

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 16th, 2021, 3:34 pm

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 16th, 2021, 3:36 pm

Good info here for parents contemplating getting their children vaccinated
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20513332

Screenshot 2021-08-16 at 3.33.37 PM.jpg


Pfizer is tested safe for ages 12 and older.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 16th, 2021, 5:09 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Good info here for parents contemplating getting their children vaccinated
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20513332

Screenshot 2021-08-16 at 3.33.37 PM.jpg

Pfizer is tested safe for ages 12 and older.


Why not safe for under 12?

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Postby adnj » August 16th, 2021, 5:31 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Good info here for parents contemplating getting their children vaccinated
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20513332

Screenshot 2021-08-16 at 3.33.37 PM.jpg

Pfizer is safe for ages 12 and older.


Why not safe for under 12?
No one has said "it is not safe" for children under 12. I have corrected you on this issue before. It was not TESTED. But is is being TESTED for children 5 years and older. But the very reasearch that you consistently complain was not done is being done now.

In fact, some parents in the USA are getting their children vaccinated who are under 12.

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Pfizer advances clinical trials for 5- to 11-year-olds at lower doses

The study will examine vaccine safety, efficacy and immunity at lower doses.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Pfizer+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Parents are sneaking underaged children in for vaccines, pediatricians advise against it

https://www.wtok.com/2021/08/15/parents ... gainst-it/
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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 16th, 2021, 5:35 pm

Red herrings and strawmen abound

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Postby timelapse » August 16th, 2021, 5:45 pm

Say de correct ting nah man.
It does have too much chupidees in de place that feel they bright

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby Mmoney607 » August 16th, 2021, 5:47 pm

Oh gosh they know they going to approve it no matter what. What the big difference? If it "safe" for everyone else, it will be safe under 12's. It's only emergency use. A setta Papi show thing.

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Postby adnj » August 16th, 2021, 7:43 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:Oh gosh they know they going to approve it no matter what. What the big difference? If it "safe" for everyone else, it will be safe under 12's. It's only emergency use. A setta Papi show thing.
Approve it? At what dosage? At what interval? With what side effects? With what data to SUPPORT any approval? Who's children are going to participate? Where will the study be done that children are at sufficient risk of COVID infection?

You want an FDA approval so you can sue for damages.

But you expect that the same process that was followed for adults will be cut short for children. It is not.
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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby De Dragon » August 16th, 2021, 9:45 pm

adnj wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Oh gosh they know they going to approve it no matter what. What the big difference? If it "safe" for everyone else, it will be safe under 12's. It's only emergency use. A setta Papi show thing.
Approve it? At what dosage? At what interval? With what side effects? With what data to SUPPORT any approval? Who's children are going to participate? Where will the study be done that chikdren are at sufficient risk of COVID infection?

You want an FDA approval so you can sue for damages.

But you expect that the same process that was followed for adults will be cut short for children. It is not.

He and hover11 like dem does each hold one end of the goalpost........................

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby Ben_spanna » August 19th, 2021, 10:33 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ov ... k-n1277099

More than 20,000 students in Mississippi are in quarantine from exposure to the coronavirus, accounting for about 5 percent of the state's public school pupils, according to state data.

As infection rates increase throughout the country because of the highly transmissible delta variant of the coronavirus, the state has been hit particularly hard since students returned to classes Aug. 9.

There were 20,334 students in quarantine after the first week of school, which ended Friday, according to data from the State Health Department.

During that week, 4,521 students also contracted the coronavirus, bringing the total of students who have tested positive since the beginning of August to 5,933, the health department reported.

Teachers and staff members from the 803 schools from 74 counties that reported to the state also fared poorly.

State records show that 948 teachers and staff tested positive for Covid from Aug. 9 to Friday. A total of 1,496 teachers and staff members have contracted the coronavirus since the beginning of August. And as of the end of last week, 1,463 teachers and staff members were being quarantined because of exposure to the virus.

In Mississippi, less than 36 percent of residents are fully vaccinated, according to government data from earlier in the week.

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The state epidemiologist, Dr. Paul Byers, told reporters Wednesday that the number of students who are in quarantine is "dramatic."

"When you look at a number like 20,000 students that are on quarantine in any given week, that exceeds what we've experienced ... when we were at our previous peak for the impact on the schools," he said.

Because of the high quarantine numbers among students and staff members, at least 29 schools have opted to "go virtual for a short time in order to interrupt transmission," Byers said.

Coronavirus infection rates among children ages 5 to 17 have increased sharply, Byers said, and children ages 6 to 10 account for a lot of the new cases.

"This will translate to potentially more hospitalizations of children under the age of 18. And unfortunately, we may see additional deaths," he said.

The best protection against Covid-19, Byers said, is for children 12 and over to get vaccinated along with their parents.

A teenager died from complications related to Covid over the weekend, marking the fifth death of a minor killed by the coronavirus in the state, Byers said.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby Mmoney607 » August 19th, 2021, 1:41 pm

De Dragon wrote:
adnj wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Oh gosh they know they going to approve it no matter what. What the big difference? If it "safe" for everyone else, it will be safe under 12's. It's only emergency use. A setta Papi show thing.
Approve it? At what dosage? At what interval? With what side effects? With what data to SUPPORT any approval? Who's children are going to participate? Where will the study be done that chikdren are at sufficient risk of COVID infection?

You want an FDA approval so you can sue for damages.

But you expect that the same process that was followed for adults will be cut short for children. It is not.

He and hover11 like dem does each hold one end of the goalpost........................


So it safe for a 12 yr old but not for an 11 yr old. Ok. Sure.

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby matr1x » August 19th, 2021, 1:49 pm

They are playing games with children lives.


Healthcare professionals have stated that they are worried about the backlash of they don't follow the narrative

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Postby adnj » August 19th, 2021, 2:26 pm

matr1x wrote:They are playing games with children lives.


Healthcare professionals have stated that they are worried about the backlash of they don't follow the narrative
Pics and names or it didn't happen.

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Pediatricians plead with FDA to move quickly on Covid vaccine for kids

"The delta variant has created a new and pressing risk to children and adolescents across this country," president of the leading pediatricians group wrote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... s-n1276191

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 19th, 2021, 2:33 pm

matr1x wrote:They are playing games with children lives.


Healthcare professionals have stated that they are worried about the backlash of they don't follow the narrative


Who tell you this? Mad man Fuad?

Want to see an example of how fake news starts? A friend said on one of my WhatsApp groups, that his cousin took the vaccine and then later that day they had to rush up to the hospital because he was having chest pains.

Whole group is up in arms! the vaccines not safe, blah blah blah. My mom knows his cousin's mom, today I find out he had a ruptured appendix. Totally unrelated to the vaccine as he had a blockage that might have been there for weeks.

He even said he was getting pains for days prior to the vaccine.

I mentioned it to the group, and everyone was still convinced it was caused by the vaccine. :roll: :roll: :roll:

100% sure when they tell people that story, they not mentioning the appenix.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 19th, 2021, 4:44 pm

3,702 12-18yr olds were vaccinated with Pfizer yesterday

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Postby DMan7 » August 19th, 2021, 4:47 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3,702 12-18yr olds were vaccinated with Pfizer yesterday

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Postby matr1x » August 19th, 2021, 5:36 pm

Nurses in the US.


Also, a futhering of the lockdown. Welcome to the police state. And you all voted for this

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 21st, 2021, 1:42 am

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Despite the reservations by some parents about having their children vaccinated at this time, Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly said both vaccinated and unvaccinated students will be welcomed back into schools next month.

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has said that students in Forms Four, Five and Six will be allowed to resume physical classes when the new academic term 2021/2022 begins on September 6.

Asked yesterday how the Ministry of Education intends to address the issue of vaccinated students mixing with the unvaccinated, the minister said there will be no discrimination of either category.

She said, “At this time, in every office building, family, taxi in Trinidad and Tobago, the vaccinated and unvaccinated coexist. There is no requirement for separation. Schools are not expected to operate any differently.”

Gadsby-Dolly reinforced, “The Government has a policy of voluntary vaccination, with no requirement to prove vaccination status for access to public places of work, buildings or services. The Ministry of Education is guided by that.”

Meanwhile, one day after they operationalised 13 centres specifically for administering the Pfizer vaccine to people between 12 to 18, the Ministry of Health increased the number of vaccine sites to provide greater access. The latest vaccine sites to be added to the list include Centre Pointe Mall, Chaguanas and the Paddock, Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain.

The ministry said on the first day of the drive on Thursday, 3,702 people received their first dose of the World Health Organization-approved Pfizer vaccine.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/minister-vaccina ... o-coexist/

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Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2021, 1:51 am

i thought 18 years was considered adulthood? so an 18 yr old can't take the other vaccines?

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Postby adnj » August 21st, 2021, 6:24 am

redmanjp wrote:i thought 18 years was considered adulthood? so an 18 yr old can't take the other vaccines?
You are asking a rhetorical question when you should simply be making a statement.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 21st, 2021, 9:43 am

redmanjp wrote:i thought 18 years was considered adulthood? so an 18 yr old can't take the other vaccines?


We would have assume that that's how a top pnm official's child was able to be vaccinated in June and was vaccinated again with Pfizer this week. Unless the person was underage when they got vaccinated in June, in which case plenty people should be before the courts.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 21st, 2021, 9:44 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Image

Despite the reservations by some parents about having their children vaccinated at this time, Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly said both vaccinated and unvaccinated students will be welcomed back into schools next month.

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has said that students in Forms Four, Five and Six will be allowed to resume physical classes when the new academic term 2021/2022 begins on September 6.

Asked yesterday how the Ministry of Education intends to address the issue of vaccinated students mixing with the unvaccinated, the minister said there will be no discrimination of either category.

She said, “At this time, in every office building, family, taxi in Trinidad and Tobago, the vaccinated and unvaccinated coexist. There is no requirement for separation. Schools are not expected to operate any differently.”

Gadsby-Dolly reinforced, “The Government has a policy of voluntary vaccination, with no requirement to prove vaccination status for access to public places of work, buildings or services. The Ministry of Education is guided by that.”

Meanwhile, one day after they operationalised 13 centres specifically for administering the Pfizer vaccine to people between 12 to 18, the Ministry of Health increased the number of vaccine sites to provide greater access. The latest vaccine sites to be added to the list include Centre Pointe Mall, Chaguanas and the Paddock, Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain.

The ministry said on the first day of the drive on Thursday, 3,702 people received their first dose of the World Health Organization-approved Pfizer vaccine.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/minister-vaccina ... o-coexist/


So they sending unvaccinated children to kill vaccinated children. And that seem like a breeding ground for the Trinidad variant with all those unvaccinated mixing.

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Postby hover11 » August 21st, 2021, 9:56 am

So what was the rush if the vaccinated will be around the unvaccinated in the same class how will the children know who among them is vaccinated
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Image

Despite the reservations by some parents about having their children vaccinated at this time, Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly said both vaccinated and unvaccinated students will be welcomed back into schools next month.

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has said that students in Forms Four, Five and Six will be allowed to resume physical classes when the new academic term 2021/2022 begins on September 6.

Asked yesterday how the Ministry of Education intends to address the issue of vaccinated students mixing with the unvaccinated, the minister said there will be no discrimination of either category.

She said, “At this time, in every office building, family, taxi in Trinidad and Tobago, the vaccinated and unvaccinated coexist. There is no requirement for separation. Schools are not expected to operate any differently.”

Gadsby-Dolly reinforced, “The Government has a policy of voluntary vaccination, with no requirement to prove vaccination status for access to public places of work, buildings or services. The Ministry of Education is guided by that.”

Meanwhile, one day after they operationalised 13 centres specifically for administering the Pfizer vaccine to people between 12 to 18, the Ministry of Health increased the number of vaccine sites to provide greater access. The latest vaccine sites to be added to the list include Centre Pointe Mall, Chaguanas and the Paddock, Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain.

The ministry said on the first day of the drive on Thursday, 3,702 people received their first dose of the World Health Organization-approved Pfizer vaccine.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/minister-vaccina ... o-coexist/

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Re: Issues with reopening Schools in T&T , Vaccines for Children etc

Postby De Dragon » August 21st, 2021, 12:26 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
adnj wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Oh gosh they know they going to approve it no matter what. What the big difference? If it "safe" for everyone else, it will be safe under 12's. It's only emergency use. A setta Papi show thing.
Approve it? At what dosage? At what interval? With what side effects? With what data to SUPPORT any approval? Who's children are going to participate? Where will the study be done that chikdren are at sufficient risk of COVID infection?

You want an FDA approval so you can sue for damages.

But you expect that the same process that was followed for adults will be cut short for children. It is not.

He and hover11 like dem does each hold one end of the goalpost........................


So it safe for a 12 yr old but not for an 11 yr old. Ok. Sure.

Once again for you and the anti vax crew, UNSAFE IS NOT THE SAME AS UNTESTED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 21st, 2021, 12:40 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:i thought 18 years was considered adulthood? so an 18 yr old can't take the other vaccines?


We would have assume that that's how a top pnm official's child was able to be vaccinated in June and was vaccinated again with Pfizer this week. Unless the person was underage when they got vaccinated in June, in which case plenty people should be before the courts.

Do you get these conspiracy theories from somewhere or do you make them up yourself?

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Postby adnj » August 21st, 2021, 1:04 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:i thought 18 years was considered adulthood? so an 18 yr old can't take the other vaccines?


We would have assume that that's how a top pnm official's child was able to be vaccinated in June and was vaccinated again with Pfizer this week. Unless the person was underage when they got vaccinated in June, in which case plenty people should be before the courts.


Choosing not to be informed is no excuse for being ignorant.

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Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2021, 1:14 pm

hover11 wrote:So what was the rush if the vaccinated will be around the unvaccinated in the same class how will the children know who among them is vaccinated


the idea is to get as much vaxxed as possible so that school can open and it won't create a massive spike in cases. initally we will have some unvaxxed but over time more and more will take it. it's a numbers game essentially- it its too low u will get spikes and quarantines, if its high then that is unlikely.

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Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2021, 1:19 pm

Pfizer is likely to get FULL APPROVAL (no longer Emergency Use only) from FDA this week so anyone hesitant about vaxxing their child should be aware of that!

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-fda-aims-give-full-nod-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-monday-new-york-times-2021-08-20/

U.S. FDA aims to give full approval to Pfizer vaccine on Monday -NYT
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WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is aiming to give full approval to Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine on Monday, the New York Times reported on Friday.

Regulators were aiming to complete the process by Friday, but were still working through "a substantial amount of paperwork and negotiation with the company," the Times said, citing people familiar with the planning who were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

The agency declined to comment.

It had set an unofficial deadline for approval of around Labor Day on Sept. 6, the report said.


The approval could boost the vaccination campaign by convincing more unvaccinated Americans that Pfizer's shot is safe and effective and also make local officials more comfortable in implementing vaccine mandates.

The U.S. military is expected to require that service members get vaccinated soon after Pfizer's shot is authorized and other major U.S. employers could follow suit. read more

Vaccine hesitancy has been a major hurdle to the White House's goal of getting all eligible Americans vaccinated against the coronavirus.

Only around 60% of adults aged 18 and over have been fully vaccinated even as the new Delta variant of COVID-19 has contributed to a surge in cases.

Full approval of Pfizer's shot would also make it easier for physicians to prescribe a third booster shot to people who could benefit from an additional dose.

The FDA has authorized Pfizer's shot as a booster for people with weakened immune systems, but the White House plans to offer them much more widely in the coming months. read more

The White House earlier this week said it plans to give out 100 million booster shots, many supplied by Pfizer, to at-risk Americans, including anyone whose initial inoculation is more than 8 months old, starting in September.

Some experts, including at the World Health Organization say there is not yet enough data be certain boosters are needed.


Pfizer's vaccine was authorized for emergency use in December and more than 203 million people in the United States have so far received it. None of the three authorized COVID-19 vaccines have received full FDA approval.



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