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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » December 3rd, 2021, 1:26 pm

Rowley waved a document that he said was his 2019 Integrity filing in which he had the property stated.

He showed a proper deed.

He said Saddam and dem are blasted liars.

I smell a lawsuit coming.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby j.o.e » December 3rd, 2021, 1:29 pm

KCR come with documents. Another failed corruption accusation against PNM ?

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Postby bluefete » December 3rd, 2021, 1:44 pm

Rowley palancing and electioneering.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » December 3rd, 2021, 1:56 pm

hover11 wrote:The National Commission for Self Help Ltd (NCSHL) has been distributing grants in Tobago in the days before the December 6 THA elections.

The media were not invited to these distributions and no press releases about them were sent out.

https://www.facebook.com/31110792574848 ... 343437495/


This where Shamfa get Covid?
Isn't there pics of her distributing cheques with NCSH last week

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » December 3rd, 2021, 1:57 pm

Team,

Please have some respect for your Prime Minister.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby mero » December 3rd, 2021, 2:58 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » December 3rd, 2021, 3:58 pm

KCR really brought up whore houses in his speech??

Man has an unhealthy obsession with pimps and prostitutes it seems

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 3rd, 2021, 5:23 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:KCR really brought up whore houses in his speech??

Man has an unhealthy obsession with pimps and prostitutes it seems
It's de wajang in him, them red government ppl love those antics

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Cantmis » December 3rd, 2021, 6:16 pm

Love and hip hop Pnm

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby daring dragoon » December 4th, 2021, 5:22 am

free for all in tobago, grants and cheques and food card all over the place for anyone voting red. this should be illegal in the 90 days before an election. red using state money to buy votes and tobogians to dotish to realize.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2021, 6:47 am

daring dragoon wrote:free for all in tobago, grants and cheques and food card all over the place for anyone voting red. this should be illegal in the 90 days before an election. red using state money to buy votes and tobogians to dotish to realize.
Did I not say we live a very stupid cont tree filled with mostly stupid people.

They know they can't use race so they have to use state resources .

If Afro people take this insult then it's their own fault for their stupidity.

Habit 7 as campaign manager in bago must be proud.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » December 4th, 2021, 10:40 am

Drunk and useless
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » December 4th, 2021, 11:03 am

matr1x wrote:Drunk and useless
Do you really want to go there? Especially when the other side have been accused of the same thing.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » December 4th, 2021, 11:07 am

mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » December 4th, 2021, 11:14 am

If a PM wants to hide something there are ways to do it.

A half arse filing isn't one of them.
Having your name on the deed isn't hiding anything.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » December 4th, 2021, 11:16 am

The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » December 4th, 2021, 11:43 am

wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.


I believe you state all your assets on both forms, the difference is the details. Form B is more general while Form A it will be more elaborate with the details not for public consumption. The issue seems to be that he stated all him assets in Form A but left out some in Form B. If that is in fact the case, legal minds will have to chime in on the consequences of doing such.

Well in fairness, they do speak about the issues you listed. The problem is that most don't take the current opposition seriously.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby eliteauto » December 4th, 2021, 12:19 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.

I believe you state all your assets on both forms, the difference is the details. Form B is more general while Form A it will be more elaborate with the details not for public consumption. The issue seems to be that he stated all him assets in Form A but left out some in Form B. If that is in fact the case, legal minds will have to chime in on the consequences of doing such.

Well in fairness, they do speak about the issues you listed. The problem is that most don't take the current opposition seriously.


I agree with you but the UNC needs to rethink how they communicate. Most of their communication is via their Monday Night Forum or releases sent via their PRO, in both cases their audience is generally party sycophants because after the poorly attended/viewed MNF they choose to do releases on the salacious issues on their FB page and associated troll/blogger pages, so they limit their own reach to just their core. You have a PM wasting good media time to either give us a history lesson or a lesson in histrionics depending on the topic, the Opposition should be the counter to that by addressing national matters pragmatically, I'm sure they will garner more attention as many have now tuned the PM and the Gov't out and prefer the cliffnotes after

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2021, 12:40 pm

wing wrote:
matr1x wrote:Drunk and useless
Do you really want to go there? Especially when the other side have been accused of the same thing.
Unc not in power nor are they important at this stage.

Rowlair should set a better example rather been idiot .

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2021, 12:46 pm

eliteauto wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.

I believe you state all your assets on both forms, the difference is the details. Form B is more general while Form A it will be more elaborate with the details not for public consumption. The issue seems to be that he stated all him assets in Form A but left out some in Form B. If that is in fact the case, legal minds will have to chime in on the consequences of doing such.

Well in fairness, they do speak about the issues you listed. The problem is that most don't take the current opposition seriously.


I agree with you but the UNC needs to rethink how they communicate. Most of their communication is via their Monday Night Forum or releases sent via their PRO, in both cases their audience is generally party sycophants because after the poorly attended/viewed MNF they choose to do releases on the salacious issues on their FB page and associated troll/blogger pages, so they limit their own reach to just their core. You have a PM wasting good media time to either give us a history lesson or a lesson in histrionics depending on the topic, the Opposition should be the counter to that by addressing national matters pragmatically, I'm sure they will garner more attention as many have now tuned the PM and the Gov't out and prefer the cliffnotes after
We all know the red government media houses does not cover the truth and often spins it . They put it across in a different way to please the red government supporters.

It's sad when you have an a biased media in favor of the red government. Plus socal media is one way where the red government can't put spin and controls what news to block.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » December 4th, 2021, 5:42 pm

matr1x wrote:Drunk and useless


Slim,

While i get what you’re getting at, the picture is insufficient evidence and the caption is immature, and also your stupid comment.

He appears to be having alcohol yes, his head looks “nice”, but as he clearly said in the press conference, he does not drink to get drunk.

Drunk - affected by alcohol to the extent of losing control of one's faculties or behaviour.

Again, the picture proves nothing.

Dig deeper to see what you can find bro…post the ones with him drifting and staggering and cursing loudly like allyuh woft Trini drunks.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » December 4th, 2021, 7:48 pm

wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.
If all those things going on in the country, the government's priorities are quite peculiar as well...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2021, 8:08 pm

timelapse wrote:
wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.
If all those things going on in the country, the government's priorities are quite peculiar as well...
Doh study wing he's in the lead for tuner jack arse of the year.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Gladiator » December 4th, 2021, 8:12 pm

Just curious... was the issue the form A form B thing or the $600,000.00 discount and less than usual stamp duty?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » December 4th, 2021, 9:42 pm

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
wing wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
mero wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
Dave wrote:I found it quite distasteful when the PM calls fellow parliamentarians a runt. A man as senior as he is and using that sort of language is highly embarrassing to say the least.
Doesn't make a difference whether PNM or UNC but a man holding office of that calibre should remove certain verbs from his vocabulary while holding a prestigious office like the PM.


It's because Saddam got to him.

If it was untrue, Rowley would have responded immediately but he deflected to the UNC instead as per usual hoping that they will botch the matter along the way.
Lol this didn't age very well.

UNC runts getting chain up.

Another day, another L for the UNC


Well there are two forms you must fill out for the Integrity Commission, Form A which is private and Form B which is public. On Form A he declared his assets to IC but did not for some on Form B as more than likely he didn't want his private business out there for public consumption. Form B is accessible to the public which was what the UNC got.

While I understand the need for privacy, it seems that he was being deceptive. The question is if Form A and Form B should exactly be the same or otherwise. That is a question legal minds will have to opine on and an apparent loophole to be fixed. While he may be ethically wrong, it will be tricky to pin him that he did something illegal.
The answer is in the first paragraph. The A form is confidential and the B form can be accessible by the public. Is it mandatory to have the exact information on both forms? If so, why two forms then? There's a reason why there are two forms with different levels of access. This format has been the same since inception and has been used by different individuals, red and yellow. While murders continue, covid rampaging, economy in dire straits and democracy under attack, the opposition priorities are quite peculiar.
If all those things going on in the country, the government's priorities are quite peculiar as well...
Doh study wing he's in the lead for tuner jack arse of the year.
Thanks for the honor. Especially from a waste of sperm like yourself.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » December 4th, 2021, 10:07 pm

Gladiator wrote:Just curious... was the issue the form A form B thing or the $600,000.00 discount and less than usual stamp duty?


Basically when you are declaring your assets to the IC, two forms are filled out and submitted - Form A which is private for the IC and requires more and usually sensitive details from the declarant, and Form B which is for the public with basic details. Both forms you list all your properties. Apparently in Rowley's case, he declared all his properties in Form A but declared some in Form B. What is presumed is that he didn't want the public to know all his assets but also didn't want to run afoul of the IC, meaning he declared to the IC with Form A but made a false declaration on Form B which from what I leant so far and subject to correction, carries a fine and imprisonment.

With the discount part, Inez Gate is a townhouse development. It seems Rowley purchased the property at a pre-development/pre-sale price of 1.2M so when the unit was completely built, it was valued at a higher price, at about 1.8M. This is normal in real estate development. The issue is if he put the correct value in his declaration.

But on a real, is a 100 Acre development in Tobago... kinda nice






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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2021, 3:49 am

^^^^nutting will come out of it , if it was panday then it would have been a different matter .

Then Conts like wing would have been bumping his arse

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » December 5th, 2021, 6:40 am

Blame Kyamala.She removed the ink from his pen when he was filling out form 2

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby matr1x » December 5th, 2021, 6:41 am

Didn't he claim he does not consume alcohol?




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