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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby antlind » May 25th, 2023, 9:16 pm

DMan7 wrote:As I've said before UNC ain't winning nothing. PNM taking 2025 and 2030 too. The UNC has too much stigma associated with it, The party needs to be disbanded and a new party without any of the old political heads needs to take its place.

It's also just sad to see people have some sliver of hope that they could win something but that's living in fantasy land.


I agree 100% with what you’ve said. The sad thing is that the people of TT will be the only losers if the PNM wins another term.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby death365 » May 26th, 2023, 3:36 am

Let meh tell u someting eh ....


I can come and provide evidence of theories/papers to back this up but everyone will read it and still stick with their own party.

In our sweet little twin island T&T just as in Guyana politics has and will aways be directed related to race. Two major races .... two major parties. No one one's to hear bout policies or a valid plan forward for the country. So we are stuck in this quagmire for the foreseeable future.

I have not seen a "valid" plan/ manifesto/ direction forward for this country that wasn't forced by the UN or some other international body.

Oil/Natural Gas is our safety net, everything else firetrucking bun it.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby maj. tom » May 26th, 2023, 6:57 am

was our safety net.



Two recent NY Times articles that are worth a click and read.

Why Some Countries Find It Hard to Move Away From Fossil Fuels

Trinidad and Tobago is the No. 2 exporter of liquefied natural gas in the Americas. Its output has been falling, but it remains committed to fossil fuels.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/business/energy-environment/trinidad-tobago-gas-oil.html
If you hit the NY Times paywall: https://archive.ph/8P5rg


But with its oil and gas fields aging, oil production has fallen to 58,000 barrels a day, from 230,000 barrels a day at its peak in 1978. The country’s only oil refinery was shut four years ago. Gas production has declined 40 percent since 2010, forcing the country to close one of its four export terminals for liquefied natural gas and three of its 18 petrochemical plants.

...The oil and gas business “is the basis for our middle class,” said Ainka Granderson, an environmental scientist at the Caribbean Natural Resources Institute, a research organization in San Juan, a city on the main island. “Oil and gas was once the nation’s spine, but it’s now the crutch that props us up.”

That crutch is becoming increasingly rickety.


Climate Change Brings Warmer, Wetter Weather to Trinidad
Even as the leaders of Trinidad and Tobago double down on fossil fuels, climate change is bringing more extreme weather to the island nation.

The island nation’s climate has historically been highly variable. Climate change has made it more so. And Trinidad’s average temperature has risen two and half times above the global average from 1946 to 2019, according to the government report to the U.N. Over the past four decades, heavy rain that last multiple days has also been more frequent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/business/energy-environment/trinidad-tobago-climate-change.html
https://archive.ph/m59XO

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby toyolink » May 26th, 2023, 10:38 am

The various political preferences as noted in this thread all seem to acknowledge that the 2 the major political parties demonstrate major flaws.
What this may suggest is that the elector may well overtime have to choose the party which would best take care of bread and butter issues and may be easier to get to respond to the financial pain citizens are faced with on a day to day basis.
Things like macro development, fiscal strategic and crime prevention planning although critical may just not drive where citizens put their inked finger.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pjfred » May 26th, 2023, 8:24 pm

Well bai $180,000.00 per month salary with perks but they want to place property tax on us poor people. They really love they high color people

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » May 26th, 2023, 8:34 pm

toyolink wrote:The various political preferences as noted in this thread all seem to acknowledge that the 2 the major political parties demonstrate major flaws.
What this may suggest is that the elector may well overtime have to choose the party which would best take care of bread and butter issues and may be easier to get to respond to the financial pain citizens are faced with on a day to day basis.
Things like macro development, fiscal strategic and crime prevention planning although critical may just not drive where citizens put their inked finger.


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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Kickstart » May 26th, 2023, 10:37 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
toyolink wrote:The various political preferences as noted in this thread all seem to acknowledge that the 2 the major political parties demonstrate major flaws.
What this may suggest is that the elector may well overtime have to choose the party which would best take care of bread and butter issues and may be easier to get to respond to the financial pain citizens are faced with on a day to day basis.
Things like macro development, fiscal strategic and crime prevention planning although critical may just not drive where citizens put their inked finger.


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Both of them will continue to vote PNM

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Rovin » May 27th, 2023, 11:27 am

more details of d 180k+\mth ... i dunno what similar positions worldwide does pay but :shock:

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... k8JSVl6e64

$180,000 plus perks
New Heritage CEO salary:


THE incoming chief executive officer (CEO) of State-owned Heritage Petroleum Company Ltd (Heritage) Erik Keskula will receive a lucrative package, including a monthly base salary of $180,000.

This information was provided by Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley at the Parliament sitting yesterday in response to a question from the Opposition.

Keskula’s monthly base salary is $30,000 more than his predecessor, Arlene Chow, made in the position.

On May 23, Heritage’s chairman, Michael Quamina, SC, and the board announced that Erik Keskula had been selected as the CEO of the company.

Keskula will serve as the CEO-designate for the period June 1 to June 13 and will assume full responsibility when Chow retires from the company on June 13.


Heritage stated that Keskula’s selection followed a rigorous recruitment process which considered candidates from Trinidad and Tobago and the international oil and gas industry.

The Prime Minister listed the compensation package for Keskula:

—cash compensation: base salary- $180,000 monthly

—relocation allowance of seven per cent - $12,600

—completion bonus of $180,000 payable at the end of the six-month probation

—value of housing up to US$5,000 a month

—a company vehicle maintained by Heritage with a driver during the probationary period and subsequent to that a vehicle purchased up to the value of $700,000

—utilities to be funded by the Company

—return airfare to his home company at the end (for employee and spouse)

—international medical insurance for employee, spouse and two dependants

—international life insurance for the employee only

—20 working days per annum for vacation

—an annual bonus arrangement

Opposition MP Rudranath Indarsingh asked the Prime Minister how much money Heritage has set aside to invest in the repair and maintenance of the company’s network of pipelines as he noted the company recently declared an after-tax profit of over a billion dollars.

He pointed out environmental disasters involving oil spills and leaks have been associated with Heritage and have impacted communities.

Rowley said he was pleased to note that Indarsingh had “finally acknowledged” that the restructuring of Petrotrin had transformed an entity which was losing billions of dollars to one that is now in a position to declare after-tax profit of approximately $1 billion after paying royalties of $2 billion.

He said if Indarsingh’s “epiphany” continues he expects that it will be acknowledged that Heritage is also servicing the US$850 million debt that the Finance Minister could not service.

Heritage, he said, is dealing with aged infrastructure which they inherited.

Rowley said the company has a programme of assessing the quality of its infrastructure which is aged and some of it “even dangerous” and has recently spent $9 million in an inspection programme.

He said with respect to spending money to change certain aspects of the pipeline infrastructure, Heritage is spending approximately $15 million a year.

Rowley noted this is a small amount for an oil company, but given where the company has come from and is going, it will increase as Heritage continues to strengthen its infrastructure.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » May 27th, 2023, 11:40 am

Trinis still counting the man pocket?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Chimera » May 27th, 2023, 11:43 am

Similar positions worldwide pay upwards of 25 to 30k usd from googling...so same salary or more.

And then they should pay him a extra 5k usd a month just for the risk of living down here

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Chimera » May 27th, 2023, 11:45 am

Working heritage is a risk itself too eh...with the outright political interference and racket....working there most likely going to tarnish your name/career moving forward.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dizzy28 » May 27th, 2023, 11:49 am

In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » May 27th, 2023, 11:58 am

Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » May 27th, 2023, 2:48 pm

wing wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...


the most deceitful capitalist lie is that if labor works hard enough, they too can live like the owners of capital.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » May 27th, 2023, 3:26 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
wing wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...


the most deceitful capitalist lie is that if labor works hard enough, they too can live like the owners of capital.
You talking about something else completely. The new CEO salary is nothing out of the ordinary in the industry. It's just being politicized. We should ask what was Khalid hassanali salary at petrotrin, or Malcolm Jones or the infamous espinet. The voices were strangely silent then.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » May 27th, 2023, 3:29 pm

or we could ask about the disparity between CEO pay and worker pay

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby adnj » May 27th, 2023, 3:30 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
wing wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...


the most deceitful capitalist lie is that if labor works hard enough, they too can live like the owners of capital.
Where did you hear that?

What you meant to say was, "Don't work for money—let money work for you."

In the US and EU, ~80% of the high income group owns equities, ~50% of the middle income, ~20% of the lower income.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 28th, 2023, 1:30 pm

wing wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...


If 10 years passed since last wage negotiations took place and I only getting 4% and facing MORE taxes, I'd be suffering more than ever...love allyuh logic

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » May 28th, 2023, 1:50 pm

that’s the difference between the working class and the non-working class lol

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » May 30th, 2023, 6:22 am

Happy Indian Arrival Day Team

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Kickstart » May 30th, 2023, 6:57 am

MaxPower wrote:Happy Indian Arrival Day Team
Why post this in a PNM chead?

PNM once removed the Indian in Indian Arrival Day

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » May 30th, 2023, 7:02 am

Kickstart wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Happy Indian Arrival Day Team
Why post this in a PNM chead?

PNM once removed the Indian in Indian Arrival Day


Zoom,

Are you a Mod?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » May 30th, 2023, 9:00 am

Kickstart wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Happy Indian Arrival Day Team
Why post this in a PNM chead?

PNM once removed the Indian in Indian Arrival Day


true

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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happy indian arrival day all

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no joke if I did see Kamla buying doubles, I woulda bawl "GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE A CHANCE. STEP DOWN. EVERYBODY SUFFERING BECAUSE OF YOU. STEP DOWN. WE CYAR WIN BECAUSE OF YOU. STEP DOWN. GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE A CHANCE." and just keep repeating that like a madman until her bodyguard escort her back to her black SUV. she need to hear it in the same way Bas had to hear it, for the country to move forward

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 30th, 2023, 9:01 pm

^Doesn't look like she would be listening to that any time soon

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » May 30th, 2023, 9:09 pm

people did spit on Panday

they did the 0X DO SO to Manning

now is kamla turn, or all ah we hadda suffer

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » May 31st, 2023, 5:28 pm

paid_influencer wrote:people did spit on Panday

they did the 0X DO SO to Manning

now is kamla turn, or all ah we hadda suffer


Who suffering we bhai?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » May 31st, 2023, 6:14 pm

Trinis suffering?

Really?

Ok

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby death365 » June 1st, 2023, 5:49 pm

Did Rowley say something like public servants (PSA) should take the 4 % and the next bargaining period.... he go fix them up good


Please post the sauce

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby ruffneck_12 » June 2nd, 2023, 8:38 am

paid_influencer wrote:
wing wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:In 2004 I worked in a small plant in Pt Lisas and the British Managing Director was paid US$20k as basic salary.

UD$25k for Heritage in 2023 doesn't seem that bad.
Usual kyakers and sufferers who know nothing about the oil and gas sector. They can only dream of the kind of perks and salaries to be had. If only they had applied themselves in school and did the hard work instead of rum, weed and loud music...it have operators making that money during turnarounds...


the most deceitful capitalist lie is that if labor works hard enough, they too can live like the owners of capital.



dan, pls take some Testosterone and come off r/antiwork :lol:

Hard work , when applied correctly, can make millions.

Just gotta know what to do.

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