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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sam1978 » June 26th, 2021, 2:36 pm

I trying to say Donna Co cks and it coming out roosters.
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby RedVEVO » June 26th, 2021, 2:36 pm

zoom rader wrote:
CB Style wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
daring dragoon wrote:watching ian one can think politicans on both sides appear to be corrupted and unc under kamla cant win as she seem to be losing it. pnm under rowlee appear to be corrupted and openly theifing out the money. right now the only man is Brian Manning , if he step up as political leader he will win the next general election by a land slide probably taking all 41 seats. unlike the next man daughter who appear to be a rumbo, brian manning have a sense of charm an charisma like the great patrick manning. just watching him seems to bring a sense of hope for Trinidad and Tobago to have a bright future.


i think next GE PNM will face an uphill battle regardless of who is the leader as it is clear more than ever that people fed up and seeing past the bs for what it is.

SMH, you were very instrumental in the last election yuh coulda swear you were a campaign manager for the PNM. Now you coming with this "people fed up BS" not even a year later?
Put a dog in a balisier tie and people will still vote for them....steups
He has to play it as if he's neutral.

We all know he's a paid red government blogger singing for his pay check . He's just like dirty habits 7


So how much money we talking ? :D

Do you get a diplomatic passport ?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 26th, 2021, 4:13 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
CB Style wrote:
elec2020 wrote:
daring dragoon wrote:watching ian one can think politicans on both sides appear to be corrupted and unc under kamla cant win as she seem to be losing it. pnm under rowlee appear to be corrupted and openly theifing out the money. right now the only man is Brian Manning , if he step up as political leader he will win the next general election by a land slide probably taking all 41 seats. unlike the next man daughter who appear to be a rumbo, brian manning have a sense of charm an charisma like the great patrick manning. just watching him seems to bring a sense of hope for Trinidad and Tobago to have a bright future.


i think next GE PNM will face an uphill battle regardless of who is the leader as it is clear more than ever that people fed up and seeing past the bs for what it is.

SMH, you were very instrumental in the last election yuh coulda swear you were a campaign manager for the PNM. Now you coming with this "people fed up BS" not even a year later?
Put a dog in a balisier tie and people will still vote for them....steups
He has to play it as if he's neutral.

We all know he's a paid red government blogger singing for his pay check . He's just like dirty habits 7


So how much money we talking ? :D

Do you get a diplomatic passport ?


That in addition to an HDC house and a secret scholarship. :D

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Re: PNM in Gov't

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Postby The_Honourable » June 26th, 2021, 8:59 pm

Meanwhile... red and ready on fb

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 26th, 2021, 9:50 pm

Unfortunately most of they own people didn’t see those comments because they were the ones lining up.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Gladiator » June 26th, 2021, 11:07 pm

CB Style wrote:Unfortunately most of they own people didn’t see those comments because they were the ones lining up.


You are correct... all the pics and videos showed mostly African people and a minority couple venez and indian.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 26th, 2021, 11:14 pm

Gladiator wrote:
CB Style wrote:Unfortunately most of they own people didn’t see those comments because they were the ones lining up.


You are correct... all the pics and videos showed mostly African people and a minority couple venez and indian.

It’s unfortunate people can’t just see the good and help the situation instead of criticizing. Is rel ketchass out there eh nuh.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby MaxPower » June 27th, 2021, 5:33 pm

It’s not like she was wrong though.

Hope she doesn’t apologize because what she is saying does exist and she has more than enough past situations and observations to justify her statement.

Whats the big deal?

There were people in need and also people in greed.

Come on Trinis, on to the next rant.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » June 27th, 2021, 5:55 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy

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Auditor General: Relief grant double dippers cost State $8.1m
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Minister of Finance Colm Imbert. -
Minister of Finance Colm Imbert. -
DOUBLE DIPPERS were paid over $8 million between March and September last year after they accessed both the salary relief and income support grants, the Auditor General found in her report.

According to the report, which covered the period October 2019 to September 2020, over 2,000 people double dipped.

“As part of the audit procedure, the salary relief grant database was joined with the income support database. An analysis of the joined databases revealed that 2,672 persons received both grants which amounted to $8,115,000.00 as at 30th September 2020.”

The Ministry of Finance’s website states those who received salary relief grants were part of the National Insurance Scheme and made contributions.

The income support grants were for those who were not in the system.


Both covered loss of earnings due to the lockdown measures imposed to battle the pandemic.

In May, Finance Minister Colm Imbert said there were 7,000 people who did not access salary relief grants for 2020. He promised stricter regulations this year to ensure there will be no repeating.

Minister of Social Development and Family Services Donna Cox said double dippers who are identified will be flagged but not punished.


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In an emailed response to Newsday, Cox said: “The Ministry is ever mindful of the challenges faced by many families during these unprecedented times. Notwithstanding the circumstances that gave rise to the various instances of double dipping during the last phase of covid19 social support, the ministry is not prepared to take any action that will further exacerbate the hardship being experienced by vulnerable families at this time. Notwithstanding, this matter will be addressed when the time is right.”

Among those who double dipped were entertainers who received a one-off payment from the cultural grant of $5,000, according to the report.

The report said 823 artistes and creatives were paid $4,125,000 as at the end of September.

“All applicants were paid $5,000 with the exception of two persons who were paid two payments each. Analysis of the income and support grant database revealed the possibility that 44 persons who were in receipt of the cultural grant were also paid income and food support grants by the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services.

“Audit requested the national ID numbers of these persons from the Ministry of Sport and Community Development to verify if they were indeed the same persons. The information was not provided by the ministry. This could result in an overpayment of $220,000 if the names appear on both databases.”


The report added that detailed analysis was not possible since no proof of membership in an artiste association was presented. There were also no evidence in some cases of sustained cultural activity from 2018 to 2020 and artistes failed to provide information on the cancellation of bookings/events owing to the pandemic. There was a lack of evidence in some cases of citizenship, for example identification and NIS card numbers.

President of the Trinidad and Tobago Promoters Association (TTPA) Jerome “Rome” Precilla told Newsday that while he could not speak on the issue of artistes double dipping, $5,000 was little to cover a 15 month period.


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“I know that artistes have been unemployed for over 15 months now so, in terms of the grant that artistes would have been given, the initial grant of $5,000, I can understand if they would have applied for another grant as well if it was being offered to them.

“I hope that something else would have been put in place for them to get a second opportunity to get a grant because I know that they suffering.”

Asked what will be done to ensure there will be no repeat of last year when people abused the system, Cox said a robust ICT system is now in place which will illuminate duplication of names. She said the data will be shared with the Finance Ministry to ensure that recipients have national insurance (NIS) numbers before they are given their grants.

“Clear guidelines and criteria for applicants for both the salary relief and income support grants have been extensively shared with the national population so that there is no misunderstanding about which grant persons are eligible to apply for. Any attempt of fraud will be immediately referred to the fraud squad for appropriate action.”

Apart from the salary relief and income relief grants, under the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services, 20,497 temporary food card grants were issued among the 41 MPs. At the end of September, 3,431 cards, which were all valued at $510, were not properly accounted for.

Between March and September the Finance Ministry spent $781,376,601.78 on covid19 relief. In May, Imbert said the country withdrew $1.2 billion from the Heritage and Stabilisation Fund to address the pandemic.


The Auditor General stated: “It appears that no proper monitoring and oversight was in place for the ministries and departments tasked with the administering of the covid19 initiatives.

“Roles and responsibilities were not clearly defined. Lack of collaboration with other relevant departments, and deficiencies in the internal controls, led to the funds allocated for covid19 initiatives not being used efficiently and effectively.”

The social services ministry provided assistance in the form of income, food and rental support to over 176,000 individuals and families. Cox said she wants to assure those that are vulnerable that every effort will be made to ensure they receive support. She added that families who deserve assistance will not be turned away as the ministry will work with other ministries and stakeholders to assist in providing a decent quality of life for citizens affected by the pandemic.

“I also want to appeal to those who are not in need, those who do not qualify, and those who are ill intentioned, to please do not come forward.

“When this is done the system becomes clogged and processing is affected. We must strive for the greater good of those who are truly in need at time. Please give them that chance.”


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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 27th, 2021, 8:29 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy


Now let’s close our eyes and imagine if it was a UNC MP who said that?
BLM hit the streets ah hundred miles per hour.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 27th, 2021, 8:55 pm

CB Style wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy


Now let’s close our eyes and imagine if it was a UNC MP who said that?
BLM hit the streets ah hundred miles per hour.
When Red government lays a pound of racism it will just get brushed off.

If UNC just lays a gram of perceived racism its blown shy high .

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » June 27th, 2021, 10:36 pm

MaxPower wrote:It’s not like she was wrong though.

Hope she doesn’t apologize because what she is saying does exist and she has more than enough past situations and observations to justify her statement.

Whats the big deal?

There were people in need and also people in greed.

Come on Trinis, on to the next rant.

Yes, but again, a crass, uncalled for statement with no added value, from the MINISTER for Social Development :roll: just like JUHN Scarfy and he "Guyana and dem using inferiah vaccine, so dais why dem hah mo' dan we!" sheit.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 27th, 2021, 11:00 pm

zoom rader wrote:
CB Style wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy


Now let’s close our eyes and imagine if it was a UNC MP who said that?
BLM hit the streets ah hundred miles per hour.
When Red government lays a pound of racism it will just get brushed off.

If UNC just lays a gram of perceived racism its blown shy high .


Worldwide, dem people always the victims of race. But dem never racial.

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Cox for the Needy

Postby RedVEVO » June 28th, 2021, 1:26 am

The Hon., Minister (Cox) said she was on the side of the needy.

Cox had come under fire for saying “there are some people in need and some in greed,”

“She noted that millions of dollars had been wasted on people who applied for multiple grants and she noted that these figures will be supplied.

On Friday the Youth Arm of the UNC called on Cox to “not be greedy and to resign.”

MSJ’s David Abdulah also accused .. Cox .. of being out of touch "




https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/cox-def ... ebc00f87e4

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Re: Cox for the Needy

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" Several charitable organisations have objected to Social Development Minister Donna Cox’s statement that although people are lining up to collect food hampers at distributions throughout the country is not as bad a situation as it appears to be .. "

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... b7725.html

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Re: Cox for the Needy

Postby De Dragon » June 28th, 2021, 2:30 am

RedVEVO wrote:The Hon., Minister (Cox) said she was on the side of the needy.

Cox had come under fire for saying “there are some people in need and some in greed,”

“She noted that [b]millions of dollars had been wasted on people who applied for multiple grants and she noted that these figures will be supplied.[/b]

On Friday the Youth Arm of the UNC called on Cox to “not be greedy and to resign.”

MSJ’s David Abdulah also accused .. Cox .. of being out of touch "




https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/cox-def ... ebc00f87e4

Yet she and Impsy and all the other LFD RFD PNM dummies will never see it as their fault. Being unaccountable is so ingrained in their psyche, that they will shrug their shoulders, brush back their weaves and say "wha' yuh go do?" keke keke keke :roll:

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 28th, 2021, 7:12 am

De Dragon wrote:
MaxPower wrote:It’s not like she was wrong though.

Hope she doesn’t apologize because what she is saying does exist and she has more than enough past situations and observations to justify her statement.

Whats the big deal?

There were people in need and also people in greed.

Come on Trinis, on to the next rant.

Yes, but again, a crass, uncalled for statement with no added value, from the MINISTER for Social Development :roll: just like JUHN Scarfy and he "Guyana and dem using inferiah vaccine, so dais why dem hah mo' dan we!" sheit.

imo, it was done to occupy media space, and the correct tactic was to ignore it. do the obligatory correction that plenty more people not working and plenty people are not well off. and that is that.

back to focusing on ngc billions missing.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 28th, 2021, 7:16 am

sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
MaxPower wrote:It’s not like she was wrong though.

Hope she doesn’t apologize because what she is saying does exist and she has more than enough past situations and observations to justify her statement.

Whats the big deal?

There were people in need and also people in greed.

Come on Trinis, on to the next rant.

Yes, but again, a crass, uncalled for statement with no added value, from the MINISTER for Social Development :roll: just like JUHN Scarfy and he "Guyana and dem using inferiah vaccine, so dais why dem hah mo' dan we!" sheit.

imo, it was done to occupy media space, and the correct tactic was to ignore it. do the obligatory correction that plenty more people not working and plenty people are not well off. and that is that.

back to focusing on ngc billions missing.


wot?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 28th, 2021, 7:26 am

tories
by RADHICA DE SILVA

radhica.sookraj@guardian.co.tt

Having faced a barrage of criticism for her “greedy people” comment, Social Development Minister Donna Cox says she remains on the side of the destitute and will continue to do her best to help them.
Cox had come under fire for saying “there are some people in need and some in greed,” in response to long lines for food outside South Park Plaza in San Fernando last Friday.
Among those condemning her were the Opposition United National Congress, political leader of the Movement for Social Justice David Abdulah and several other social media activists.
n an interview with CNC3 news producer Bavita Gopaulchan yesterday, Cox said her comment was misinterpreted.
“But if you read the context you would see of course there are people in need and we would like to help the people in need,” she said.
But she insisted there were people who were blocking genuinely destitute people from getting aid.
“We would like the person who is not in need to allow the person who is in need to access whatever is meant for them,” she said.
The minister said she was on the side of the needy.
“I want them to get and be able to access what is available to them. But the reality is there are those who come to access it and block those who really should be getting,” she added.
The ones accusing her of being out of touch with reality were politically-driven, Cox said, adding, “I am trying to figure out why they making an issue. I think everyone knows that in every situation there are those who are in need and others who may not be in need.”
Asked whether she was willing to apologise for her remark, Cox responded, “Everyone knows the type of person I am. I have been helping everyone. Social development is not about politics but it is about helping the vulnerable and these are the ones who I am interested in.”
She also said not everyone had the data she had access to, saying millions of dollars were given by people who double-dipped into the government’s income relief grants. She did not want to give details saying she did not want to discourage donors.
Police officers monitor the movement of people at a food drive organised by Help T&T at Jaggerssar’s Group of Companies compound in Penal yesterday.
Rishi Ragoonath
The Minister also revealed that fewer people were applying for grants because of the stricter measures that were put in place to curb double-dipping.
“She noted that millions of dollars had been wasted on people who applied for multiple grants and she noted that these figures will be supplied.
“We have invited applicants and the deadline is July 8 but on the whole, the number of applicants is much less,” she said.
On Friday the Youth Arm of the UNC called on Cox to “not be greedy and to resign.”
MSJ’s David Abdulah also accused Cox, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley and Finance Minister Colm Imbert of being out of touch with reality.
Abdulah called on the government to come up with $.5 billion for income support for those who are out of work as well as to support Small and Microenterprises. We need a major injection of resources to help people put food on the table,” he said.
Abdulah said if the government should make further withdrawals from the Heritage and Stabilisation Fund as people should not be going hungry.
“For Cox to say the situation is not as bad is an indication of the thinking of the PNM which is they are not concerned about hunger and desperation that exist among thousands of people.”
Over the past few months, farmers have been distributing tonnes of produce for free. Agricultural economist Omardath Maharaj has called on the government to utilise the public green spaces and to begin immediately to plant fruit trees like jackfruit, chatagne, breadfruit so that if families face starvation in the future, they can reap food freely from public spaces.
Mayaro farmer Roget Lobin has been donating over 4,000 pounds of melons while in Central Trinidad sweet potato farmers have been distributing tonnes of produce freely to the poor. Groceries have started community food banks where hungry families can go and pick up items for free.
Several contractors including Jaggerssar Group of Companies have also been donating to NGO’s.
Angie Ramnarine from the La Romaine Migrant Support group told CNC3 news that the situation has become so dire that migrant families were now trying to return to their homeland.



Meanwhile Donna de crook list greedy people but forget all the millions they keep feeding 1%

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » June 28th, 2021, 7:31 am

Ironic, that while HSF/borrowed billions being pissed away, the focus is on the few being allowed to game the system through improper checks, corruption and nepotism.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » June 28th, 2021, 8:12 am

HSF report up to March21.

I know asking for proof of anything is a PNM tactic to distract from the hyperbole being spewed.


https://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/u ... h-2021.pdf

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 28th, 2021, 8:21 am

Redman wrote:HSF report up to March21.

I know asking for proof of anything is a PNM tactic to distract from the hyperbole being spewed.


https://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/u ... h-2021.pdf
Wey the so called profit Heritage?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » June 28th, 2021, 8:48 am

CB Style wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy


Now let’s close our eyes and imagine if it was a UNC MP who said that?
BLM hit the streets ah hundred miles per hour.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

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Habit7 wrote:
CB Style wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/news/local/charitable-organisations-have-a-message-for-donna-cox/article_c4094fd8-d6e1-11eb-97ca-a7d4674b7725.amp.html

How donna go say that boy


Now let’s close our eyes and imagine if it was a UNC MP who said that?
BLM hit the streets ah hundred miles per hour.

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See that you made it work this morning copy and pasting like your job description. Fuad Khan is the MP of where again?
Do PNM paid bloggers get medical and pension benefits? Asking for a friend working Cepep. He wants to get a transfer.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 28th, 2021, 10:39 am

Donna Roosters now back pedaling she weave flying in front she face. Just like Scarfy, she saying it was taken out of context and the masses will surely accept it. So all is well now. She’s forgiven.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 28th, 2021, 11:08 am

CB Style wrote:Donna Roosters now back pedaling she weave flying in front she face. Just like Scarfy, she saying it was taken out of context and the masses will surely accept it. So all is well now. She’s forgiven.
Had this been a non reg government making those claims, it would have been viewed as racist and dem doh like black people .

But with Donna crooks everything is OK.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » June 28th, 2021, 11:12 am

As long as you keep posting nonsensical pro-UNC posts and you lash out when you are responded to with sober thought, I dont need to insult you. You are doing a fine job of that yourself.

CB Style wrote:Donna Roosters now back pedaling she weave flying in front she face. Just like Scarfy, she saying it was taken out of context and the masses will surely accept it. So all is well now. She’s forgiven.
The saying “Monkey see, Monkey do” comes to mind.

I wonder what deputy political leader Jearlean John thinks when she sees her party supporters post messages like this. Maybe she would realise no matter how many appliances and furniture you give out, self-respecting ppl know that they can't be bought.

Anyways, Taharqa Obika told you all to at least not be so overt. But like allyuh hardened.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/unc-gro ... 00d030a7cb

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby CB Style » June 28th, 2021, 11:36 am

Listen, I know your job is copy and pasting but make sense nah. You can’t just do thing viki vike.
So you just go and look for anything UNC and just post. That’s what is considered credible?
Did they assigned overtime to take care of the Donna C**ks issue?

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