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Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
Christian churches are extentions of the red government.timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
zoom rader wrote:Christian churches are extentions of the red government.timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
They openly tell members to vote red government against those people that pray to idols. These are their exact words
Mmoney607 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Christian churches are extentions of the red government.timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
They openly tell members to vote red government against those people that pray to idols. These are their exact words
The catholic archbishop is now a chief propoganda officer for the pnm
timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
Gladiator wrote:timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
Careful with those wise words here bro.That kind of truth will get you lynched by Red cult Habit7 and crew.Gladiator wrote:timelapse wrote:Religion too .UNC is viewed as the 'Hindu' party.Heard this time and time again by several indo born again Christians and MuslimsWraith King wrote:Gladiator wrote:Wraith King wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:
Imagine if the middle class and other "independent" organizations had the same attitude to the pnm, we would be in a much better place.
The majority of Trinis' mentality is such that they cannot process that anyone or anything they support or believe in can do no wrong and they experience cognitive dissonance when presented with information showing anything that contradicts their beliefs. Economic, social and political issues cannot be dealt with because of this toxic mentality.
From my observations that type of behavior highly correlates with followers of religion. They seem to associate social behavior, political affiliation etc with the likes of religious faith and belief. They then translate "betraying" their party to being punished by their God.
Religious faith reduces the ability to think critically therefore politicians and corrupt systems employ religious doctrine in their political speeches, agenda and leadership governance in order to keep the religious flock hooked on the political poison.
Trinidad with it super religious citizenry is prime for politians to feed like vampires for decades before the generational cycle of zombie voters is broken.
I agree the same thing happens to religion in that persons can't take criticism of their preferred religion. However I believe politicians use race as their primary strategy.
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
Just the ones I personally remember...Gladiator wrote:The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view.
Gladiator wrote:This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
timelapse wrote:Exactly the point Habit.Agree with the leadership or GTFO with PNM
Gladiator wrote:
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
No goalposts changed.The word internally applies if it stays internal.Once they buss out, it stops being internal. Comprende?Habit7 wrote:timelapse wrote:Exactly the point Habit.Agree with the leadership or GTFO with PNM
No, you are shifting the goalposts. A man said "There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role." That is false.
In any organisation if you disagree with the leadership to the most extreme extent, they either submit to you or you have to leave. But even in the most recent history, KCR disagreed privately with the leadership, he was fired from the Cabinet. He then disagreed publicly, internally the PM sensed he was going to be challenged with a vote of no confidence and he called elections early. PNM supporters did not support him enough and he lost. KCR was elected leader and the PNM supporters came back and they won nearly every election since then.
Once an African leaves the Red government he is called a lick bottom African.The_Honourable wrote:Gladiator wrote:
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
Good contribution. The usual suspects will pull a sentence or a paragraph, apply a different meaning to derail, paint a different picture and accuse you of moving goalposts.
We need to remember that the PNM is not afraid of the UNC. What the pnm is deadly afraid off is an afro-trinidadian outside of the pnm rising to power and challenging them. That is why you see venom against afro-trinis that don't tow the pnm line and biblical attacks when one has high potential and decides to challenge the pnm. Eric Williams showed his fear when he banned Kwame Ture from entering the country back in the early 70s during Black Power. ANR Robinson rose to power resulting in the infamous 33-3 in 1986. Jack Warner was in line to pull it off but scandals of his own doing brought him down. Imagine Jack Warner becoming the political leader of the UNC? That would have sent a political shockwave and PNM on defense trying to hold on to their afro-trinidadian base.
We have a long way of becoming enlightened. Politics is about division so even if dynamics change in the future, there will always be a fundamental issue that will divide the population for politicians to take advantage off.
But you and many other still going back and vote the red government as you rather eat grass than vote for a perceived Indo partyBen_spanna wrote:country is going down and down, everything getting worse.... we are going backwards... our justice system protects the criminals............. and its NOT the current party solely to blame its BOTH of our political parties that have failed over the last 40 years to improve our quality of life.
Regardless of if youre red and ready or The rising sun, face it- both parties have FAILED US Miserably.
You all just don't like to admit the truthBen_spanna wrote:zoom- YOU are one of the reasons why racial discrimination is alive and well..people like YOU continue to put everything in black and white. thanks!
That's just it as the red government does not want Africans leading outside the red government.The_Honourable wrote:Gladiator wrote:
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
Good contribution. The usual suspects will pull a sentence or a paragraph, apply a different meaning to derail, paint a different picture and accuse you of moving goalposts.
We need to remember that the PNM is not afraid of the UNC. What the pnm is deadly afraid off is an afro-trinidadian outside of the pnm rising to power and challenging them. That is why you see venom against afro-trinis that don't tow the pnm line and biblical attacks when one has high potential and decides to challenge the pnm. Eric Williams showed his fear when he banned Kwame Ture from entering the country back in the early 70s during Black Power. ANR Robinson rose to power resulting in the infamous 33-3 in 1986. Jack Warner was in line to pull it off but scandals of his own doing brought him down. Imagine Jack Warner becoming the political leader of the UNC? That would have sent a political shockwave and PNM on defense trying to hold on to their afro-trinidadian base.
We have a long way of becoming enlightened. Politics is about division so even if dynamics change in the future, there will always be a fundamental issue that will divide the population for politicians to take advantage off.
timelapse wrote:No goalposts changed.The word internally applies if it stays internal.Once they buss out, it stops being internal. Comprende?Habit7 wrote:timelapse wrote:Exactly the point Habit.Agree with the leadership or GTFO with PNM
No, you are shifting the goalposts. A man said "There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role." That is false.
In any organisation if you disagree with the leadership to the most extreme extent, they either submit to you or you have to leave. But even in the most recent history, KCR disagreed privately with the leadership, he was fired from the Cabinet. He then disagreed publicly, internally the PM sensed he was going to be challenged with a vote of no confidence and he called elections early. PNM supporters did not support him enough and he lost. KCR was elected leader and the PNM supporters came back and they won nearly every election since then.
The_Honourable wrote:We need to remember that the PNM is not afraid of the UNC. What the pnm is deadly afraid off is an afro-trinidadian outside of the pnm rising to power and challenging them. That is why you see venom against afro-trinis that don't tow the pnm line and biblical attacks when one has high potential and decides to challenge the pnm. Eric Williams showed his fear when he banned Kwame Ture from entering the country back in the early 70s during Black Power. ANR Robinson rose to power resulting in the infamous 33-3 in 1986. Jack Warner was in line to pull it off but scandals of his own doing brought him down. Imagine Jack Warner becoming the political leader of the UNC? That would have sent a political shockwave and PNM on defense trying to hold on to their afro-trinidadian base.
zoom rader wrote:Once an African leaves the Red government he is called a lick bottom African.The_Honourable wrote:Gladiator wrote:
The UNC and their flock is not a major concern when it comes to blind loyalty. Yes, they have the uneducated base that will vote regardless, but the same traits that the UNC party is always ridiculed for are the ones that make them different to the PNM. There is always infighting, persons disagreeing with each other, persons rising up and challengining leadership, fractions breaking off. These traits show that the members are capable of some sort of decision making skills and critical thinking to have differences in opinion, make decisions and act on them.
The scary fraction is the PNM members that vote for the leadership regardless for what they may do or how they do it. There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role. All the ministers, high internal position holders and MPs etc simply tow the line. Nobody ever expresses a difference in opinion or point of view. This is synonomous with a religious cult where speaking bad of the leader, the party or the cultism itself is akin to being "unpatriotic" or sinful. This is a dangerous mechanism that can ruin a state. There is also a strong correlation with Christianity and the PNM that suggests they use the religious doctrine to brainwash supporters (don't let God out of your thoughts). When that fails there is always the race card.
Let's hope that one day the dynamics change and Trinidad really becomes and educated or rather an enlightened society where the politicians cannot use their party as a cult base to remain wards of the tresury and leech of the land for 5 decades at a time.
Good contribution. The usual suspects will pull a sentence or a paragraph, apply a different meaning to derail, paint a different picture and accuse you of moving goalposts.
We need to remember that the PNM is not afraid of the UNC. What the pnm is deadly afraid off is an afro-trinidadian outside of the pnm rising to power and challenging them. That is why you see venom against afro-trinis that don't tow the pnm line and biblical attacks when one has high potential and decides to challenge the pnm. Eric Williams showed his fear when he banned Kwame Ture from entering the country back in the early 70s during Black Power. ANR Robinson rose to power resulting in the infamous 33-3 in 1986. Jack Warner was in line to pull it off but scandals of his own doing brought him down. Imagine Jack Warner becoming the political leader of the UNC? That would have sent a political shockwave and PNM on defense trying to hold on to their afro-trinidadian base.
We have a long way of becoming enlightened. Politics is about division so even if dynamics change in the future, there will always be a fundamental issue that will divide the population for politicians to take advantage off.
This is how the red government controls Africans
Wraith King wrote:This is what they called Afra Raymond for exposing PNM corruption. They weren't bothered by the fact the PNM was engaging in corruption but the fact that a non Indian exposed the PNM. Shows you where voters' priority lies.
You forget about when Patos had him in the doghouse?Habit7 wrote:timelapse wrote:No goalposts changed.The word internally applies if it stays internal.Once they buss out, it stops being internal. Comprende?Habit7 wrote:timelapse wrote:Exactly the point Habit.Agree with the leadership or GTFO with PNM
No, you are shifting the goalposts. A man said "There is never a true challenge internally for the leadership role." That is false.
In any organisation if you disagree with the leadership to the most extreme extent, they either submit to you or you have to leave. But even in the most recent history, KCR disagreed privately with the leadership, he was fired from the Cabinet. He then disagreed publicly, internally the PM sensed he was going to be challenged with a vote of no confidence and he called elections early. PNM supporters did not support him enough and he lost. KCR was elected leader and the PNM supporters came back and they won nearly every election since then.
To agree or disagree with the leadership one has to be internal. You are not making sense. KCR disagreed with the leadership, he was still chosen as a candidate in 2010 and is now leader. It never stopped being internal.
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