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It also means that TTEC and WASA rates can double or triple because the companies now are heavily subsidized by the government. First rule in business they must always make a profit. So they don't care if the vulnerable in society are without these commodities. They provide a service and expect profits from such. How many times digicel raised their rates and they are not a monopoly, allya asking for privatization and dont really have a clue what the consequences of such entailPhone Surgeon wrote:It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.
Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.
Privatize everything
You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.
hover11 wrote:
Max ,
A Respectful increase would be 10 percent.
Allow me to ask you something, on every occasion that you dealt with a public servant you never received proper service, forget all the stereotypes on here. I'm speaking to you personally.
hover11 wrote:Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quartermatix wrote:Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.
hover11 wrote:It also means that TTEC and WASA rates can double or triple because the companies now are heavily subsidized by the government. First rule in business they must always make a profit. So they don't care if the vulnerable in society are without these commodities. They provide a service and expect profits from such. How many times digicel raised their rates and they are not a monopoly, allya asking for privatization and dont really have a clue what the consequences of such entailPhone Surgeon wrote:It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.
Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.
Privatize everything
You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.
I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forwardmatix wrote:hover11 wrote:Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quartermatix wrote:Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.
To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?
MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:
Max ,
A Respectful increase would be 10 percent.
Allow me to ask you something, on every occasion that you dealt with a public servant you never received proper service, forget all the stereotypes on here. I'm speaking to you personally.
Jason, morning
I would say 3/10 times i received proper service.
hover11 wrote:I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forwardmatix wrote:hover11 wrote:Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quartermatix wrote:Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.
To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?
Ignorant comment, do you know how your one hour lunch break occurred or the history of it, it was due to unions , maternity leave , health benefits and safe working conditions alot of things we take for granted today was due to ppl fighting hard and pounding pavements. There was a time black ppl couldn't work in banks black power movement changed such but carry onDMan7 wrote:An argument can be made that if these people are "suffering" or in need of a greater than 2% increase in their salaries then they won't be out in the streets on a working day marching. People truly "suffering" don't have time or money to do that.
X10000matix wrote:hover11 wrote:I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forwardmatix wrote:hover11 wrote:Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quartermatix wrote:Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.
To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?
Now we can have a conversation. Time for the population to feel what the actual cost of sheit is.
hover11 wrote:Ignorant comment, do you know how your one hour lunch break occurred or the history of it, it was due to unions , maternity leave , health benefits and safe working conditions alot of things we take for granted today was due to ppl fighting hard and pounding pavements. There was a time black ppl couldn't work in banks black power movement changed such but carry onDMan7 wrote:An argument can be made that if these people are "suffering" or in need of a greater than 2% increase in their salaries then they won't be out in the streets on a working day marching. People truly "suffering" don't have time or money to do that.
hover11 wrote:Educate me because nearly every private sector employee I deal with on a daily basis shows me a job letter which states contractual or temporary employment. Let's not forget how the unscrupulous private sector works, telling employees only when they permanent they have to take out NIS.
I guess we doing job letters wrong by us my job letter says permanentRory Phoulorie wrote:hover11 wrote:Educate me because nearly every private sector employee I deal with on a daily basis shows me a job letter which states contractual or temporary employment. Let's not forget how the unscrupulous private sector works, telling employees only when they permanent they have to take out NIS.
I work in the private sector and my classification is "full-time employee".
There is no such thing as a "permanent employee". No one is permanent in a job.
Rovin wrote:so nice big impressive size crowd yesterday - good for them standing up for themselves
buh if election call next wk who dem same setta ppl voting for .....
Permanent workers leave with benefits in the case of redundancy temporary or contract workers do not. Also bear in mind that with even the threats of termination that the public servants were still offered 2 percent so wtf. Dammed if you do dammed if u don't I guess...Phone Surgeon wrote:Hovie feel he permanent. The only thing permanent is death hovie.
The other day when rowley talk about being fired if you not vaccinated he run and get fake vaccine card...even though he maintain he permanent
I have stated this that they should be fired....3000 workers not on the structure or organization chart. Privatization can solve such lessen political favors but with that comes the public feeling their own pain with increase in rates. At the end of the day the workers didn't hire themselves who allowed that monster to fester and grow.Phone Surgeon wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/07/cabinet-report-wasa-overstaffed-by-3000-employees/
Cabinet report: WASA overstaffed by 3,000 employees
let them audit the whole of the public service and buss people throat like that
then talk backpay or increase
Dax,daxt0r wrote:i cya support that gratuity and back-pay nonsense, you done gettin monthly pay jed wtf more allyuh want, them kinda arrangement i could never agree with, so then Digicel/grocery for example should request back-pay when they raise they bill/prices to the period you have/buy the service/goods and at a predefined period say hear wa pay us this big lumpsum.
Me doh really agree with keithos on much but the most allyuh bloodsuckers deserve is ah one off payment.
Everybody else minus those ontop feelin da bite in the private sector and we actually have to wok for we money and it eh hv nothing like dem chupidness like backpay and gratuity, yuh earn what yuh wok for an thats that.
consider this for a second, do you know what happens during a period of inflation, like right now, when more money is given out, and not earned with an increased rate of productivity? Only with an increase in productive capacity of the entire economy, and god knows that ent possible in the public sector and that applies from d police to nurses and teachers, etc, will it be possible to be paid more money without worsening inflation.
If for example you do get that wage increase, every single person who isn't a public servant will suffer as there is no magic wand to increase wages in the entire private sector an those with the lowest salaries, persons with much lower salaries in the PS, will be affected most.
Are you saying that you and the PS are okay with suffering the most vulnerable and majority of society once they get their increase, whilst remaining as slow and unproductive as the current state?