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Probably not, especially with most vaccines requiring two doses. Would have to be 14 billion+ doses produced.Mmoney607 wrote:Have enough who, fda, EU or UK approved vaccines been produced to vaccinate the over 7 billion humans on earth?
ed360123 wrote:Probably not, especially with most vaccines requiring two doses. Would have to be 14 billion+ doses produced.Mmoney607 wrote:Have enough who, fda, EU or UK approved vaccines been produced to vaccinate the over 7 billion humans on earth?
aaron17 wrote:When we fully vacc. 800,000 ppl.. what would happen to rest ? crapaud smoke yuh pipe?
Data keeps on changing ...so i expect them to say something else.Mmoney607 wrote:aaron17 wrote:When we fully vacc. 800,000 ppl.. what would happen to rest ? crapaud smoke yuh pipe?
Well the prime Minister and the CMO said 1 million adults would result in herd immunity.
aaron17 wrote:Data keeps on changing ...so i expect them to say something else.Mmoney607 wrote:aaron17 wrote:When we fully vacc. 800,000 ppl.. what would happen to rest ? crapaud smoke yuh pipe?
Well the prime Minister and the CMO said 1 million adults would result in herd immunity.
Mmoney607 wrote:ed360123 wrote:Probably not, especially with most vaccines requiring two doses. Would have to be 14 billion+ doses produced.Mmoney607 wrote:Have enough who, fda, EU or UK approved vaccines been produced to vaccinate the over 7 billion humans on earth?
So why people complaining about people be anti Vax. Even if everyone wanted to take the vaccine, they don't even have enough. So by the time the making more, according to vaccine blind loyalists, unvaccinated people, who don't have any vaccine available to them, would be creating variants.
Mmoney607 wrote:ed360123 wrote:Probably not, especially with most vaccines requiring two doses. Would have to be 14 billion+ doses produced.Mmoney607 wrote:Have enough who, fda, EU or UK approved vaccines been produced to vaccinate the over 7 billion humans on earth?
So why people complaining about people be anti Vax. Even if everyone wanted to take the vaccine, they don't even have enough. So by the time the making more, according to vaccine blind loyalists, unvaccinated people, who don't have any vaccine available to them, would be creating variants.
j.o.e wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:ed360123 wrote:Probably not, especially with most vaccines requiring two doses. Would have to be 14 billion+ doses produced.Mmoney607 wrote:Have enough who, fda, EU or UK approved vaccines been produced to vaccinate the over 7 billion humans on earth?
So why people complaining about people be anti Vax. Even if everyone wanted to take the vaccine, they don't even have enough. So by the time the making more, according to vaccine blind loyalists, unvaccinated people, who don't have any vaccine available to them, would be creating variants.
You understand that If those who can access vaccines take them that it will limit spread, deaths and variants ?
Glad to hear man.Fun times aheadshake d livin wake d dead wrote:24 hr update on AZ second shot for my folks:
No side effects, all is well!!!
timelapse wrote:Hardheads ignoring their responsibility as humans to support the narcissistic need to have "freedom of choice"
Dear woke folks, Covid doesn't care about politics,race or religion, or whichever makes you feel like you are superior to everyone else.It will firetruck you up and the people that you come into contact with.You ain't special.
De Dragon wrote:timelapse wrote:Hardheads ignoring their responsibility as humans to support the narcissistic need to have "freedom of choice"
Dear woke folks, Covid doesn't care about politics,race or religion, or whichever makes you feel like you are superior to everyone else.It will firetruck you up and the people that you come into contact with.You ain't special.
And even if they make vaccination mandatory, all these anti vax gangsters will bubble down like bhagi and roll up their sleeves.
Dohplaydat wrote:A guy who used to play football with us 3 years ago just passed away from covid. He was 48, perfect health as well, absolutely no comorbidities but was unvaccinated. I'm very shocked at his death too, he was a good guy.
elec2020 wrote:Out of all the vaccines I have had in my life (tetanus, small pox, measles, polio, TB, etc.) I have never seen so much wishy washi-ness over a vaccine that says I have to wear a mask and socially distance even when fully vaccinated. That I could still contract and spread the virus even when fully vaccinated. I was never bribed by establishments to take a vaccine. Nor have my livelihood (job, schooling, etc) threatened if i did not take it. I have never seen ever changing narratives about a vaccine. That one day it is good to mix and match or good for certain age groups and the other day it is not. Nor one that allows a 12 year old's consent supersede his/her parent's consent (that one blows me away). This is one powerful vaccine.
elec2020 wrote:Out of all the vaccines I have had in my life (tetanus, small pox, measles, polio, TB, etc.) I have never seen so much wishy washi-ness over a vaccine that says I have to wear a mask and socially distance even when fully vaccinated. That I could still contract and spread the virus even when fully vaccinated. I was never bribed by establishments to take a vaccine. Nor have my livelihood (job, schooling, etc) threatened if i did not take it. I have never seen ever changing narratives about a vaccine. That one day it is good to mix and match or good for certain age groups and the other day it is not. Nor one that allows a 12 year old's consent supersede his/her parent's consent (that one blows me away). This is one powerful vaccine.
“Having half the population vaccinated and half unvaccinated and
unprotected — that is the exact experiment I would design if I were a
devil and trying to design a vaccine-busting virus.”
Basically is people that can "scientifically" compare apples and grapes.An idiot with a shred of knowledge is a dangerous idiot.They don't even know how idiotic they are.At least I understand my Vene neighbor,if he shows up to a center without ID, he fears that they will deport him .Legit reason.Dohplaydat wrote:De Dragon wrote:timelapse wrote:Hardheads ignoring their responsibility as humans to support the narcissistic need to have "freedom of choice"
Dear woke folks, Covid doesn't care about politics,race or religion, or whichever makes you feel like you are superior to everyone else.It will firetruck you up and the people that you come into contact with.You ain't special.
And even if they make vaccination mandatory, all these anti vax gangsters will bubble down like bhagi and roll up their sleeves.
I honestly don't get thier fear, you've been taking vaccines all your life. We don't even have the experimental mRNA vaccines here so the fear of the unknown shouldn't be there.
All vaccines are new at some point and approval from FDA and WHO under emergency use does mean it's safe for 99.999% of persons, regardless of what some Facebook quack says.
If a person is susceptible, they can be observed by their physician.Dohplaydat wrote:Well clotting is a rare risk associated with only the AZ and J&J vaccine, but I get that, I know a few women who were concerned but still weighed the pros and cons and took that risk. That was when we only had AZ.
Dohplaydat wrote:“Having half the population vaccinated and half unvaccinated and
unprotected — that is the exact experiment I would design if I were a
devil and trying to design a vaccine-busting virus.”
Dr William Hassertine, former harvard medicla professor who helped design treatment for HIV/AIDs
https://khn.org/news/article/unraveling ... virus-yet/
Abstract
Vaccines are thought to be the best available solution for controlling the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. However, the emergence of vaccine-resistant strains may come too rapidly for current vaccine developments to alleviate the health, economic and social consequences of the pandemic. To quantify and characterize the risk of such a scenario, we created a SIR-derived model with initial stochastic dynamics of the vaccine-resistant strain to study the probability of its emergence and establishment. Using parameters realistically resembling SARS-CoV-2 transmission, we model a wave-like pattern of the pandemic and consider the impact of the rate of vaccination and the strength of non-pharmaceutical intervention measures on the probability of emergence of a resistant strain. As expected, we found that a fast rate of vaccination decreases the probability of emergence of a resistant strain. Counterintuitively, when a relaxation of non-pharmaceutical interventions happened at a time when most individuals of the population have already been vaccinated the probability of emergence of a resistant strain was greatly increased. Consequently, we show that a period of transmission reduction close to the end of the vaccination campaign can substantially reduce the probability of resistant strain establishment. Our results suggest that policymakers and individuals should consider maintaining non-pharmaceutical interventions and transmission-reducing behaviours throughout the entire vaccination period.
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