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This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
drchaos wrote:paid_influencer wrote:immune systems don't seem to remember coronaviruses very well
natural immunity wears off after a few months. people get reinfected. the reinfection can be milder or more severe. damage to organ systems is cumulative. it's not the first infection that gets you, but the last one.
vaccine based immunity is no miracle either. that's why you need to booooooooooooooost
*blow-off valve sound*
This is not true ...
Natural immunity does not "wear off after a few months". The studies show Antibodies drop 6 months post infection (as with all infections) but Plasma/Memory B cells continue increasing as antibodies drop. Memory cells can quickly ramp up antibody production to respond to covid exposure. Its documented that memory B cells can survive 30+ years.
Natural immunity gives you protection against multiple antigens including the Nucleocapsid and Spike proteins. The nucleocapsid protein has a huge role in pathogenesis of covid 19. It fuddles up your immune response and responsible for the cytokine storm that leads to ARDS. SO natural infection will aid in protection against cellular and organ damage during reinfection.
Vaccine immunity only gives you protection against the spike protein and nothing else.
Trinidad still have a pandemic warranting the declaration?adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:paid_influencer wrote:immune systems don't seem to remember coronaviruses very well
natural immunity wears off after a few months. people get reinfected. the reinfection can be milder or more severe. damage to organ systems is cumulative. it's not the first infection that gets you, but the last one.
vaccine based immunity is no miracle either. that's why you need to booooooooooooooost
*blow-off valve sound*
This is not true ...
Natural immunity does not "wear off after a few months". The studies show Antibodies drop 6 months post infection (as with all infections) but Plasma/Memory B cells continue increasing as antibodies drop. Memory cells can quickly ramp up antibody production to respond to covid exposure. Its documented that memory B cells can survive 30+ years.
Natural immunity gives you protection against multiple antigens including the Nucleocapsid and Spike proteins. The nucleocapsid protein has a huge role in pathogenesis of covid 19. It fuddles up your immune response and responsible for the cytokine storm that leads to ARDS. SO natural infection will aid in protection against cellular and organ damage during reinfection.
Vaccine immunity only gives you protection against the spike protein and nothing else.
Apparently not.
“Cytokine Storm” Debunked: Machine Learning Exposes the True Killer of COVID-19 Patients
No evidence of cytokine storm in critically ill patients with COVID-19.
Nearly half of patients with COVID-19 develop a secondary bacterial pneumonia.
Crucial to find and aggressively treat secondary bacterial pneumonia in ICU patients.
Machine learning links unresolving secondary pneumonia to mortality in patients with severe pneumonia, including COVID-19
Unsuccessful treatment of VAP (ventilator-associated pneumonia) is associated with greater mortality. The relatively long length of stay among patients with COVID-19 is primarily due to prolonged respiratory failure, placing them at higher risk of VAP.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/170682
drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
aaron17 wrote::lol:
Stubborn lamb challenges sheep dog #shorts
Siimilar to SARS, MERS and influenza, COVID has pneumonia as an associated progression of the infection.redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
That has no scientific meaning. That is something anti-vaxxers apparently say to each other to feed beliefs in their own intellectual superiority as a consequence of a likely delusion of grandeur.Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
Since you on the topic of your mind, mass formation psychosis probably affected you long before covid did.
redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
Repost for the b slow kids:drchaos wrote:redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
So if covid was the cause of pneumonia then what was the cause for people to die from covid old age and Obesity?
So then old age and obesity was the actual cause of death then not covid and pneumonia.
adnj wrote:Repost for the b slow kids:drchaos wrote:redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
So if covid was the cause of pneumonia then what was the cause for people to die from covid old age and Obesity?
So then old age and obesity was the actual cause of death then not covid and pneumonia.
Similar to SARS, MERS and influenza, COVID has pneumonia as an associated progression of the infection.
Nearly anyone would clearly understand this.
drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Repost for the b slow kids:drchaos wrote:redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
So if covid was the cause of pneumonia then what was the cause for people to die from covid old age and Obesity?
So then old age and obesity was the actual cause of death then not covid and pneumonia.
Similar to SARS, MERS and influenza, COVID has pneumonia as an associated progression of the infection.
Nearly anyone would clearly understand this.
for the poorly programmed fembot ... Its a hard concept i know may even short circuit you.
In no way shape or form was the way we counted deaths for covid remotely similar to SARS,MERS and influenza.
Influenza deaths was never counted as if you die with influenza and not from it, it goes down as your cause of death.
So yes fembot there is a slow person in the room and and it aint the rest of us.
Just more dishonesty from you ... First your lies about the cytokine storm and now this.
adnj wrote:That has no scientific meaning. That is something anti-vaxxers apparently say to each other to feed beliefs in their own intellectual superiority as a consequence of a likely delusion of grandeur.Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
Since you on the topic of your mind, mass formation psychosis probably affected you long before covid did.
Look at what I just wrote for you. If you knew about what you just posted, you certainly wouldn't have posted it - especially not in a quote to me.
Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:That has no scientific meaning. That is something anti-vaxxers apparently say to each other to feed beliefs in their own intellectual superiority as a consequence of a likely delusion of grandeur.Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
Since you on the topic of your mind, mass formation psychosis probably affected you long before covid did.
Look at what I just wrote for you. If you knew about what you just posted, you certainly wouldn't have posted it - especially not in a quote to me.
You are definitely programmed I can say that much. You still never admit you are a bot. I do not deem myself intellectually superior, that was your opinion. You certainly live within a program and it is outdated as everyone else has moved on.
adnj wrote:Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:That has no scientific meaning. That is something anti-vaxxers apparently say to each other to feed beliefs in their own intellectual superiority as a consequence of a likely delusion of grandeur.Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
Since you on the topic of your mind, mass formation psychosis probably affected you long before covid did.
Look at what I just wrote for you. If you knew about what you just posted, you certainly wouldn't have posted it - especially not in a quote to me.
You are definitely programmed I can say that much. You still never admit you are a bot. I do not deem myself intellectually superior, that was your opinion. You certainly live within a program and it is outdated as everyone else has moved on.
And yet you're still here.
Carbon12 wrote:
Love your response, proves that I can survive this so called deadly virus by keeping myself healthy and doing what I was always doing pre pandemic and I dont need to vaccinate to save other ppl's lives and be a hero like yourself. Im here because I can and its a public forum you idiot.
drchaos wrote:redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
So if covid was the cause of pneumonia then what was the cause for people to die from covid old age and Obesity?
So then old age and obesity was the actual cause of death then not covid and pneumonia.
adnj wrote:Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:That has no scientific meaning. That is something anti-vaxxers apparently say to each other to feed beliefs in their own intellectual superiority as a consequence of a likely delusion of grandeur.Carbon12 wrote:adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:This is proof our covid approach was not science based.aaron17 wrote:Tell he dat:
Deyalsingh: No changes to T&T’s COVID-19 response
https://guardian.co.tt/news/deyalsingh-no-changes-to-tts-covid19-response-6.2.1699746.a995271970
They only used convenient numbers to push agendas... Whatever they be
Because sometimes the mind is the problem. Get well soon, smash-plan.
Visual Agnosia - when your vision works correctly, but your brain doesn’t.
Since you on the topic of your mind, mass formation psychosis probably affected you long before covid did.
Look at what I just wrote for you. If you knew about what you just posted, you certainly wouldn't have posted it - especially not in a quote to me.
You are definitely programmed I can say that much. You still never admit you are a bot. I do not deem myself intellectually superior, that was your opinion. You certainly live within a program and it is outdated as everyone else has moved on.
And yet you're still here.
adnj wrote:Carbon12 wrote:
Love your response, proves that I can survive this so called deadly virus by keeping myself healthy and doing what I was always doing pre pandemic and I dont need to vaccinate to save other ppl's lives and be a hero like yourself. Im here because I can and its a public forum you idiot.
If you are looking for affirmation of your life choices, I am perhaps the very last person that you should be responding to.
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Repost for the b slow kids:drchaos wrote:redmanjp wrote:drchaos wrote:SO much bull sheit here to unwrap ... IF ANDJ is correct about no cytokine storm then covid didnt kill anyone...
It was pnumonia
Which means the covid death toll is near zero.
So what the frack is this guy trying to say lol
so what cause the pneumonia? it had 'pneumonia' cases since late 2019 in wuhan
So if covid was the cause of pneumonia then what was the cause for people to die from covid old age and Obesity?
So then old age and obesity was the actual cause of death then not covid and pneumonia.
Similar to SARS, MERS and influenza, COVID has pneumonia as an associated progression of the infection.
Nearly anyone would clearly understand this.
for the poorly programmed fembot ... Its a hard concept i know may even short circuit you.
In no way shape or form was the way we counted deaths for covid remotely similar to SARS,MERS and influenza.
Influenza deaths was never counted as if you die with influenza and not from it, it goes down as your cause of death.
So yes fembot there is a slow person in the room and and it aint the rest of us.
Just more dishonesty from you ... First your lies about the cytokine storm and now this.
That's a bold statement. Prove it.
drchaos wrote:
You do actually realize you proved my point with that death certificate.
Influenza + pneumonia death = Pneumonia death
Covid + Pneumonia death = Covid death
ONLY you FEMbot can try to disprove someone in an argument and end up proving them right
What a retard
The Prime Minister has said changes to the covid19 regulations will be announced on Friday.
This follows the declaration by the World Health Organization on May 5 that covid19 was no longer a public health emergency.
Speaking at a media conference at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s on Tuesday, Dr Rowley said this did not mean covid19 is no longer in circulation and cannot still pose a threat.
“The virus of covid19 has taken the status of other infections, other infecting agents we might know about, which are circulating, and if you get infected with them, they can threaten your life...Countries need to transition into long-term management of its effect and its presence.”
He said most of TT’s covid19 responses had already been removed, with those still in place carded to continue until June.
“In In consultation with the CMO and the Minister of Health,and before the end of the week, the Minister of Health and the Attorney General will take steps to remove the restrictions which are in place. We are going to discontinue virtually all of those, and the requirements for covid19 testing to travel and enter the country and things like that.
"The only thing we think we will keep is in the health system, where it is prudent to keep masks on so as to protect patients and employees.”
He said by Friday into the weekend the AG would have the opportunity to redo the legislation and regulations.
“They'll come to me and I’ll sign off on that, and the Ministry of Health, guided by the CMO, we will determine what little vestige we keep.
"But we have to tell ourselves covid19 has not gone. It has receded considerably, and we would live with it, as the rest of the world is at this point in time.”
Rowley warned that people could still have a bad response to the virus and should continue to take common-sense precautions.
“I think I would not be surprised if we still common-sense require that if you have covid19, that aspect of the covid19 management where you try not to expose yourself or your elder family members and your young children and so on. You have to manage that and the best way to manage that, if you know you have covid19, is isolation.
"It’s pretty much on its way out. Let’s hope it keeps going in that direction, and becomes part of our historical and health record.”
On May 5, the Health Ministry said covid19 continues to circulate at a very low level.
"Transmission continues to be classified as community in nature. Morbidity and mortality from covid19 have been on downward trends, in keeping with the global epidemiology picture over the last few months.”
The ministry urged people to continue to follow the public health measures, unvaccinated people to get vaccinated, and vaccinated people to get boosted.
“The Ministry of Health takes the opportunity to remind the public, particularly the vulnerable amongst us (those with chronic diseases, pregnant patients and the unvaccinated) to continue to maintain the principles and practice of good hygiene, such as hand washing, social distancing and wearing of masks where appropriate.”
It reminded the public that the current vaccine stock expires in June 2023, and vaccines are available at all health centres throughout TT.
“These measures will certainly assist in the maintenance of our low levels of transmission of covid19 and other infectious diseases.”
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