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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
6
43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 13th, 2023, 8:26 am

sMASH wrote:It's not the efficacy, it's the injury it causes...

They ain't collecting data on that... Florida did.

And the risk benefit ratio.sjews heavy away from young people.


But not JUST because it has little benefit to young and regular fit people, bit because it's notably dangerous. More so than a
Vax should be.

But federal don't collect that data. So obviously would not have it to show it.


All vaccinations adverse events information in the US is collected at the Federal level from the individual and the attending health care professionals. The resulting data is managed by the CDC and FDA.

Florida residents submit adverse events reports to that same system.

Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination do not mean that a vaccine
caused the event. Since December 2020, almost 270 million people have received more than
670 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines in the U.S., with over 50 million people having
received the updated bivalent vaccine. The Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) for the
COVID-19 Vaccines require sponsors and vaccine providers to report certain adverse
events through VAERS, so more reports should be expected. Recent concerns about
increased reports of cardiovascular events provide an instructive example of the need to do
further analysis when increased reporting of an event occurs. Despite increased reports of these
events, when the concern was examined in detail by cardiovascular experts, the risk of stroke and
heart attack was actually lower in people who had been vaccinated, not higher.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9939951/


About VAERS
Background and Public Health Importance

Established in 1990, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national early warning system to detect possible safety problems in U.S.-licensed vaccines. VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of adverse events (possible side effects) after a person has received a vaccination. Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS. Healthcare professionals are required to report certain adverse events and vaccine manufacturers are required to report all adverse events that come to their attention.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERSDataUse ... er2021.pdf


The Florida Department of Health works to protect, promote & improve the health of all people in Florida through integrated state, county & community efforts.

What Can Be Reported to VAERS?
VAERS seeks reports of any clinically significant medical event that occurs after vaccination, even if the reporter cannot be certain that the event was caused by the vaccine. VAERS encourages the reporting of any clinically significant adverse event that occurs after the administration of any vaccine licensed in the U.S. You should report adverse events even if you are unsure whether a vaccine caused the event.

Who Reports to VAERS?
Anyone can file a VAERS report, including healthcare providers, manufacturers, and vaccine recipients.

https://www.floridahealth.gov/programs- ... vaers.html

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby De Dragon » March 13th, 2023, 5:59 pm

Imagine when you have to put on your official documents that your job is professional vaccine skeptic :roll:

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 13th, 2023, 7:42 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:And just yo demonstrate how anti science the authorities and u bricks are, u will never admit that masks don't work.

Even when faucci at the onset of the pandemic advised and preached that masks don't work, it makes no sense encouraging it far less for mandating it.

The science didn't change, merely the authoritarian narrative.


Evidence indicates that community masking is beneficial.

Impact of community masking on COVID-19: A cluster-randomized trial in Bangladesh

SCIENCE | 2 Dec 2021 | Vol 375, Issue 6577

A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during the COVID-19 pandemic shows that the intervention increased mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

Image

https://www.science.org/stoken/author-t ... T-193/full

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

7 February 2023

It didn’t consider how COVID spreads and how masks work
COVID, along with influenza and many other respiratory diseases, is transmitted primarily through the air.

Respirators (such as N95s) are designed and regulated to prevent airborne infections by fitting closely to the face to prevent air leakage and by filtering out 95% or more of potential infectious particles.

In contrast, surgical masks are designed to prevent splatter of fluid on the face and are loose-fitting, causing unfiltered air to leak in through the gaps around the mask. The filtration of a surgical mask is not regulated.

In other words, respirators are designed for respiratory protection and cloth and surgical masks are not.

The review starts with an assumption that masks provide respiratory protection, which is flawed. An understanding of these differences should inform both studies and reviews of those studies.

The studies addressed quite different questions
A common mistake in meta-analysis is to combine apples and oranges. If apples work but oranges don’t, combining all studies in a single average figure may lead to the conclusion that apples do not work.

This Cochrane Review combined RCTs where face masks or respirators were worn part of the time (for example, when caring for patients with known COVID or influenza: “occasional” or “targeted” use) with RCTs where they were worn at all times (“continuous use”).

Because both SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses are airborne, an unmasked person could be infected anywhere in the building and even after an infectious patient has left the room, especially since some people have no symptoms while contagious.

Most RCTs of masks and N95s included in the review have not had a control arm – therefore finding no difference could indicate equal efficacy or equal inefficacy.

Studies examining wearing a surgical mask or respirator (such as an N95) only when in contact with sick people or when doing a high-risk procedure (occasional use) have generally shown that, when worn in this way, there is no difference.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-m ... -they-dont
In other words...
REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE.

Masks will only work in fantasy Island.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 13th, 2023, 8:39 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:And just yo demonstrate how anti science the authorities and u bricks are, u will never admit that masks don't work.

Even when faucci at the onset of the pandemic advised and preached that masks don't work, it makes no sense encouraging it far less for mandating it.

The science didn't change, merely the authoritarian narrative.


Evidence indicates that community masking is beneficial.

Impact of community masking on COVID-19: A cluster-randomized trial in Bangladesh

SCIENCE | 2 Dec 2021 | Vol 375, Issue 6577

A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during the COVID-19 pandemic shows that the intervention increased mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

Image

https://www.science.org/stoken/author-t ... T-193/full

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

7 February 2023

It didn’t consider how COVID spreads and how masks work
COVID, along with influenza and many other respiratory diseases, is transmitted primarily through the air.

Respirators (such as N95s) are designed and regulated to prevent airborne infections by fitting closely to the face to prevent air leakage and by filtering out 95% or more of potential infectious particles.

In contrast, surgical masks are designed to prevent splatter of fluid on the face and are loose-fitting, causing unfiltered air to leak in through the gaps around the mask. The filtration of a surgical mask is not regulated.

In other words, respirators are designed for respiratory protection and cloth and surgical masks are not.

The review starts with an assumption that masks provide respiratory protection, which is flawed. An understanding of these differences should inform both studies and reviews of those studies.

The studies addressed quite different questions
A common mistake in meta-analysis is to combine apples and oranges. If apples work but oranges don’t, combining all studies in a single average figure may lead to the conclusion that apples do not work.

This Cochrane Review combined RCTs where face masks or respirators were worn part of the time (for example, when caring for patients with known COVID or influenza: “occasional” or “targeted” use) with RCTs where they were worn at all times (“continuous use”).

Because both SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses are airborne, an unmasked person could be infected anywhere in the building and even after an infectious patient has left the room, especially since some people have no symptoms while contagious.

Most RCTs of masks and N95s included in the review have not had a control arm – therefore finding no difference could indicate equal efficacy or equal inefficacy.

Studies examining wearing a surgical mask or respirator (such as an N95) only when in contact with sick people or when doing a high-risk procedure (occasional use) have generally shown that, when worn in this way, there is no difference.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-m ... -they-dont
In other words...
REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE.

Masks will only work in fantasy Island.


Respirators prevent YOU from breathing viruses IN.

Surgical masks, cloth masks, handkerchiefs, coughing and sneezing into the crook of your elbow prevent YOU from spraying virus-laden droplets OUT.

Even cloth masks benefit the public health.

All of this was discussed in this very thread 39,000 posts ago.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 14th, 2023, 8:15 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:And just yo demonstrate how anti science the authorities and u bricks are, u will never admit that masks don't work.

Even when faucci at the onset of the pandemic advised and preached that masks don't work, it makes no sense encouraging it far less for mandating it.

The science didn't change, merely the authoritarian narrative.


Evidence indicates that community masking is beneficial.

Impact of community masking on COVID-19: A cluster-randomized trial in Bangladesh

SCIENCE | 2 Dec 2021 | Vol 375, Issue 6577

A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during the COVID-19 pandemic shows that the intervention increased mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

Image

https://www.science.org/stoken/author-t ... T-193/full

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

7 February 2023

It didn’t consider how COVID spreads and how masks work
COVID, along with influenza and many other respiratory diseases, is transmitted primarily through the air.

Respirators (such as N95s) are designed and regulated to prevent airborne infections by fitting closely to the face to prevent air leakage and by filtering out 95% or more of potential infectious particles.

In contrast, surgical masks are designed to prevent splatter of fluid on the face and are loose-fitting, causing unfiltered air to leak in through the gaps around the mask. The filtration of a surgical mask is not regulated.

In other words, respirators are designed for respiratory protection and cloth and surgical masks are not.

The review starts with an assumption that masks provide respiratory protection, which is flawed. An understanding of these differences should inform both studies and reviews of those studies.

The studies addressed quite different questions
A common mistake in meta-analysis is to combine apples and oranges. If apples work but oranges don’t, combining all studies in a single average figure may lead to the conclusion that apples do not work.

This Cochrane Review combined RCTs where face masks or respirators were worn part of the time (for example, when caring for patients with known COVID or influenza: “occasional” or “targeted” use) with RCTs where they were worn at all times (“continuous use”).

Because both SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses are airborne, an unmasked person could be infected anywhere in the building and even after an infectious patient has left the room, especially since some people have no symptoms while contagious.

Most RCTs of masks and N95s included in the review have not had a control arm – therefore finding no difference could indicate equal efficacy or equal inefficacy.

Studies examining wearing a surgical mask or respirator (such as an N95) only when in contact with sick people or when doing a high-risk procedure (occasional use) have generally shown that, when worn in this way, there is no difference.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-m ... -they-dont
In other words...
REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE.

Masks will only work in fantasy Island.


Respirators prevent YOU from breathing viruses IN.

Surgical masks, cloth masks, handkerchiefs, coughing and sneezing into the crook of your elbow prevent YOU from spraying virus-laden droplets OUT.

Even cloth masks benefit the public health.

All of this was discussed in this very thread 39,000 posts ago.
U kno the size of viruses and the pore size of the filter material?
Stop talking bs.


Mask eh stopping no virus once the droplet evaporate
... And with volume to surface area ratio in those Scales, that not gonna take long.



Masks do sheit to stop viruses. Only good fir dust and splash protection.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 14th, 2023, 9:44 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:And just yo demonstrate how anti science the authorities and u bricks are, u will never admit that masks don't work.

Even when faucci at the onset of the pandemic advised and preached that masks don't work, it makes no sense encouraging it far less for mandating it.

The science didn't change, merely the authoritarian narrative.


Evidence indicates that community masking is beneficial.

Impact of community masking on COVID-19: A cluster-randomized trial in Bangladesh

SCIENCE | 2 Dec 2021 | Vol 375, Issue 6577

A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during the COVID-19 pandemic shows that the intervention increased mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

Image

https://www.science.org/stoken/author-t ... T-193/full

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

7 February 2023

It didn’t consider how COVID spreads and how masks work
COVID, along with influenza and many other respiratory diseases, is transmitted primarily through the air.

Respirators (such as N95s) are designed and regulated to prevent airborne infections by fitting closely to the face to prevent air leakage and by filtering out 95% or more of potential infectious particles.

In contrast, surgical masks are designed to prevent splatter of fluid on the face and are loose-fitting, causing unfiltered air to leak in through the gaps around the mask. The filtration of a surgical mask is not regulated.

In other words, respirators are designed for respiratory protection and cloth and surgical masks are not.

The review starts with an assumption that masks provide respiratory protection, which is flawed. An understanding of these differences should inform both studies and reviews of those studies.

The studies addressed quite different questions
A common mistake in meta-analysis is to combine apples and oranges. If apples work but oranges don’t, combining all studies in a single average figure may lead to the conclusion that apples do not work.

This Cochrane Review combined RCTs where face masks or respirators were worn part of the time (for example, when caring for patients with known COVID or influenza: “occasional” or “targeted” use) with RCTs where they were worn at all times (“continuous use”).

Because both SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses are airborne, an unmasked person could be infected anywhere in the building and even after an infectious patient has left the room, especially since some people have no symptoms while contagious.

Most RCTs of masks and N95s included in the review have not had a control arm – therefore finding no difference could indicate equal efficacy or equal inefficacy.

Studies examining wearing a surgical mask or respirator (such as an N95) only when in contact with sick people or when doing a high-risk procedure (occasional use) have generally shown that, when worn in this way, there is no difference.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-m ... -they-dont
In other words...
REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE.

Masks will only work in fantasy Island.


Respirators prevent YOU from breathing viruses IN.

Surgical masks, cloth masks, handkerchiefs, coughing and sneezing into the crook of your elbow prevent YOU from spraying virus-laden droplets OUT.

Even cloth masks benefit the public health.

All of this was discussed in this very thread 39,000 posts ago.
U kno the size of viruses and the pore size of the filter material?
Stop talking bs.

Mask eh stopping no virus once the droplet evaporate
... And with volume to surface area ratio in those Scales, that not gonna take long.

Masks do sheit to stop viruses. Only good fir dust and splash protection.

You inadvertently made some sense.

Masks prevent bits of food, foul breath, the visage of poor dental hygiene, and moist droplets of your virus-laden spittle and expectoration from reaching the point of evaporation.

That was written in the post that you just responded to.
Feel free to back pedal and morph at your discretion.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 15th, 2023, 9:15 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:And just yo demonstrate how anti science the authorities and u bricks are, u will never admit that masks don't work.

Even when faucci at the onset of the pandemic advised and preached that masks don't work, it makes no sense encouraging it far less for mandating it.

The science didn't change, merely the authoritarian narrative.


Evidence indicates that community masking is beneficial.

Impact of community masking on COVID-19: A cluster-randomized trial in Bangladesh

SCIENCE | 2 Dec 2021 | Vol 375, Issue 6577

A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during the COVID-19 pandemic shows that the intervention increased mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

Image

https://www.science.org/stoken/author-t ... T-193/full

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

7 February 2023

It didn’t consider how COVID spreads and how masks work
COVID, along with influenza and many other respiratory diseases, is transmitted primarily through the air.

Respirators (such as N95s) are designed and regulated to prevent airborne infections by fitting closely to the face to prevent air leakage and by filtering out 95% or more of potential infectious particles.

In contrast, surgical masks are designed to prevent splatter of fluid on the face and are loose-fitting, causing unfiltered air to leak in through the gaps around the mask. The filtration of a surgical mask is not regulated.

In other words, respirators are designed for respiratory protection and cloth and surgical masks are not.

The review starts with an assumption that masks provide respiratory protection, which is flawed. An understanding of these differences should inform both studies and reviews of those studies.

The studies addressed quite different questions
A common mistake in meta-analysis is to combine apples and oranges. If apples work but oranges don’t, combining all studies in a single average figure may lead to the conclusion that apples do not work.

This Cochrane Review combined RCTs where face masks or respirators were worn part of the time (for example, when caring for patients with known COVID or influenza: “occasional” or “targeted” use) with RCTs where they were worn at all times (“continuous use”).

Because both SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses are airborne, an unmasked person could be infected anywhere in the building and even after an infectious patient has left the room, especially since some people have no symptoms while contagious.

Most RCTs of masks and N95s included in the review have not had a control arm – therefore finding no difference could indicate equal efficacy or equal inefficacy.

Studies examining wearing a surgical mask or respirator (such as an N95) only when in contact with sick people or when doing a high-risk procedure (occasional use) have generally shown that, when worn in this way, there is no difference.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/yes-m ... -they-dont
In other words...
REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE.

Masks will only work in fantasy Island.


Respirators prevent YOU from breathing viruses IN.

Surgical masks, cloth masks, handkerchiefs, coughing and sneezing into the crook of your elbow prevent YOU from spraying virus-laden droplets OUT.

Even cloth masks benefit the public health.

All of this was discussed in this very thread 39,000 posts ago.
U kno the size of viruses and the pore size of the filter material?
Stop talking bs.

Mask eh stopping no virus once the droplet evaporate
... And with volume to surface area ratio in those Scales, that not gonna take long.

Masks do sheit to stop viruses. Only good fir dust and splash protection.

You inadvertently made some sense.

Masks prevent bits of food, foul breath, the visage of poor dental hygiene, and moist droplets of your virus-laden spittle and expectoration from reaching the point of evaporation.

That was written in the post that you just responded to.
Feel free to back pedal and morph at your discretion.
Based on that study, people should have advised the Chinese to use masks to prevent the omicron spread they had.


Tsk Tsk. No masks caused them to suffer omicron.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 15th, 2023, 9:23 am

If u take the name of the virus out of that, that's the normal carnival trend.

In other words, covee melded itself into the normal environment of viruses we live with daily.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 15th, 2023, 9:36 am

sMASH wrote:
pugboy wrote:how has the predicted post carnival surge panned out ?
does everybody know persons who got sick flu or covid in last couple weeks ?
Omicron protected everybody, unlike the Vax that only lasts 4 months... As the prime minister declared nationally.
Omicron is protecting everyone. Omicron protects vaccinated people 10× more. Omicron protected vaccinated people so well that only unvaccinated people died last week. Just like you said.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 15th, 2023, 9:43 am

Died WITH covee, not FROM covee.

Thise are the accident a gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney... Who just happened to test positive.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 15th, 2023, 9:58 am

sMASH wrote:Died WITH covee, not FROM covee.

Thise are the accident a gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney... Who just happened to test positive.


Then that's great news!

COVID vaccination protects you from "gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney", and COVID.

Anyone with even a little bit of common sense should be able to see that.

Or, a person that had a lot of common sense would definitely see that your prior post is completely foolish and lacks merit.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » March 15th, 2023, 12:26 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Died WITH covee, not FROM covee.

Thise are the accident a gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney... Who just happened to test positive.


Then that's great news!

COVID vaccination protects you from "gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney", and COVID.

Anyone with even a little bit of common sense should be able to see that.

Or, a person that had a lot of common sense would definitely see that your prior post is completely foolish and lacks merit.
Tjats the stats dawg. Omicron to the worle!

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

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Postby sMASH » March 16th, 2023, 1:40 pm

Even Australian doctors noticed that mortality increased significantly with the start of Vax... Jess like trinidad.
@56mins.


And mRNA can be found months after injection in long covid patients.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SjXJUwbgKeA ... IECMiOmarE

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » March 16th, 2023, 2:59 pm

sMASH wrote:Even Australian doctors noticed that mortality increased significantly with the start of Vax... Jess like trinidad.
@56mins.
And mRNA can be found months after injection in long covid patients.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SjXJUwbgKeA ... IECMiOmarE

Then "gun shots, heart, stroke, cancer and kidney" protection. What's wrong with that??

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Postby ruffneck_12 » March 16th, 2023, 3:18 pm

Me thinks we should all go back to the beginning guys.

This thing about as deadly as the common cold (Which it is). Being a healthy individual keeps you alive and protected from it.

Look at the date this article/video was published. January 2020. The peak of it all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Wuhan.html

Look at the video....

HAVE WE EVER SEEN PEOPLE RANDOMLY DROP DOWN EN MASSE IN THE STREETS IN THE 3 YEARS SINCE WUHAN DROPPED THIS MIXTAPE???

When we gonna admit that this was all propaganda from China and MOVE ON?

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Postby aaron17 » March 16th, 2023, 4:53 pm

Covid ched locked yes.

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Postby redmanjp » March 16th, 2023, 5:00 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:Me thinks we should all go back to the beginning guys.

This thing about as deadly as the common cold (Which it is). Being a healthy individual keeps you alive and protected from it.

Look at the date this article/video was published. January 2020. The peak of it all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Wuhan.html

Look at the video....

HAVE WE EVER SEEN PEOPLE RANDOMLY DROP DOWN EN MASSE IN THE STREETS IN THE 3 YEARS SINCE WUHAN DROPPED THIS MIXTAPE???

When we gonna admit that this was all propaganda from China and MOVE ON?


guess u doh know anyone who died from it- i know a few. never knew anyone who died from the cold.

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Postby Ripe Chenette » March 16th, 2023, 5:16 pm

aaron17 wrote:Soo any word on if they still gonna investigate why Africa did not get a pandemic?
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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » March 16th, 2023, 5:39 pm

redmanjp wrote:
guess u doh know anyone who died from it- i know a few. never knew anyone who died from the cold.
From July 2022 to March 2023, when COVID deaths slowed and stabilized, there have been 334 COVID deaths. That rate is 35 deaths per 100,000 per year.

Influenza and pneumonia, a Top Ten Cause of Death in Trinidad in the years before the onset of COVID, has a rate of 12 deaths per 100,000 per year.

COVID currently kills 3× as often as influenza and pneumonia did in the years prior to the pandemic.

Since the onset of the pandemic, COVID-19 retains the number two position for cause of death in Trinidad and Tobago.
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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby thebigK » March 16th, 2023, 5:58 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
guess u doh know anyone who died from it- i know a few. never knew anyone who died from the cold.
From July 2022 to March 2023, when COVID deaths slowed and stabilized, there have been 334 COVID deaths. That rate is 35 deaths per 100,000 per year.

Influenza and pneumonia, a Top Ten Cause of Death in Trinidad in the years before the onset of COVID, has a rate of 12 deaths per year.

COVID currently kills 3× as often as influenza and pneumonia did in the years prior to the pandemic.

Since the onset of the pandemic, COVID-19 retains the number two position for cause of death in Trinidad and Tobago.


Seems about right!

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby ruffneck_12 » March 17th, 2023, 9:32 am

redmanjp wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:Me thinks we should all go back to the beginning guys.

This thing about as deadly as the common cold (Which it is). Being a healthy individual keeps you alive and protected from it.

Look at the date this article/video was published. January 2020. The peak of it all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Wuhan.html

Look at the video....

HAVE WE EVER SEEN PEOPLE RANDOMLY DROP DOWN EN MASSE IN THE STREETS IN THE 3 YEARS SINCE WUHAN DROPPED THIS MIXTAPE???

When we gonna admit that this was all propaganda from China and MOVE ON?


guess u doh know anyone who died from it- i know a few. never knew anyone who died from the cold.


I know one person who supposedly died from it

But then again, as long as you died WITH covid, you died FROM covid.

And also, there are loads of people who from complications that arise from simple colds :) Not necessarily of the cold itself. But they won't even compare those stats.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

Postby ruffneck_12 » March 17th, 2023, 9:32 am

But circling back to the original point

HAVE WE EVER SEEN PEOPLE RANDOMLY DROP DOWN EN MASSE IN THE STREETS IN THE 3 YEARS SINCE WUHAN DROPPED THIS MIXTAPE???

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby VexXx Dogg » March 17th, 2023, 10:18 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:Me thinks we should all go back to the beginning guys.

This thing about as deadly as the common cold (Which it is). Being a healthy individual keeps you alive and protected from it.

Look at the date this article/video was published. January 2020. The peak of it all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Wuhan.html

Look at the video....

HAVE WE EVER SEEN PEOPLE RANDOMLY DROP DOWN EN MASSE IN THE STREETS IN THE 3 YEARS SINCE WUHAN DROPPED THIS MIXTAPE???

When we gonna admit that this was all propaganda from China and MOVE ON?


The video shows 3 people lying down.
that is en masse?
Even the article you quoted said that "MailOnline has been unable to verify the videos, which are being widely circulated on social media"

From the start to today, ignorance is being fuelled by misinformation and disinformation and a lot of hidden agendas.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

Postby aaron17 » March 17th, 2023, 11:03 am

Idk if that tru or not ..
it just reminds me of those car scams in which ppl want to intentionally get bounce down to get money. :shock:

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers Vs Studies Spammers

Postby sMASH » March 17th, 2023, 7:53 pm

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JvSHD_n3Lyg ... IECMiOmarE


Discussion of data and concerns of adverse events concerning the mRNA vaccine, in UK Parliament, recorded on their HANSARD.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers Vs Studies Spammers

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers Vs Studies Spammers

Postby sMASH » March 20th, 2023, 11:15 am

https://youtube.com/shorts/m0Y1VOYUqlI? ... IECMiOmarE

Pfizer conference to address suddenly collapsed.

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Re: COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Relevant Updates & Discussions Only)

Postby redmanjp » March 21st, 2023, 6:44 pm

If you had Covid before you were vaccinated, you might have less immunity than you think, study says

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/if-you-had-covid-before-you-were-vaccinated-you-might-have-less-immunity-than-you-think-study-says-.html

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