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In the abundance of Trinidad oil and gas , Jamaica did much better.Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
Total 5hitK74T wrote:Fellow citizens, it is my pleasure to extend warm greetings to you on the 59th anniversary of our country’s Independence. These sincere wishes are extended from the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, my family and myself, as Prime Minister.
The word “Independence” carries great significance for every nation as it allows their citizens to stand equally and proudly as members of a nation-state recognised in the international community.
This means that their citizens hold a great obligation of collective, yet individual responsibilities, privileges, duties and rights.
With that, however, comes the charge of each citizen being accountable for his/her individual actions within the nation-state - the magnitude of which a few may not truly understand, or choose to ignore.
In this country, it is a charge our first Prime Minister, Dr Eric Williams gave the youths of the nation in that famous Youth Rally back in 1962, warning us that: “Your responsibility is… a heavy one. If you shirk it, you betray our Nation. If you fail in that responsibility, you jeopardise your Nation.”
Today, fifty-nine years after, I urge all citizens to seek to refine your understanding not only of your individual rights -- but more so your responsibilities.
Then take it further recognising that every citizen is charged, equally, or as one early political theorist wrote that one citizen’s rights begins where another citizen’s end. In other words, we all hold in our hands, very respectfully, the rights and, most importantly, the responsibilities of each other.
Once we fully recognise our obligations and rights, that all citizens hold an equal share, we can take charge in shaping a better, collective future; not only for ourselves, and families, but for all others and all future generations who will call these twin islands home.
I speak of rights, but placing more emphasis on responsibilities, because at this historical point every citizen is being called upon to be alert more so to his/her responsibilities; our very lives and the lives of our children depend upon it.
Our world is caught up in the COVID-19 pandemic, but at the same time, human beings are facing other threats, specifically, global climate change, alongside challenges in resource depletion, and fundamental changes in technology, business, education, health services, work; our overall way of life.
Recently the “Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change”, sponsored by two United Nations bodies, warned of the worldwide ferocity of global warming, hurricanes, storms, floods, wildfires, droughts, the loss of biodiversity, shrinking glacier ice, marine heatwaves, indiscriminate clearing of forests, pestilences etc —all leading to irreversible damage to “Mother Earth”.
To many, this may seem remote to life in T&T – but we, in the Caribbean, will be touched by unusual weather patterns, floods, decreasing rainfall, freshwater shortages; affecting our agriculture industry; coastal erosion, saltwater intrusion, marine heatwaves, and the bleaching of Tobago’s coral reefs, etc.
On the other hand, the past eighteen months have been difficult if not destructive for the world economy, and also our Republic. Our risks have been heightened by both the $5 Billion disbursed on relief measures against the COVID-19 virus, and the collapse in energy prices in early 2020.
During this time the Government had to protect the lives of our most vulnerable citizens. This has placed a continued strain on the treasury, but the Government is determined to take care of the neediest.
An unprecedented scenario called for unprecedented responses from everyone. As a people, we have dug deep, tapping into our innate resilience, our strength and shown our ability to adapt and cope with these changes.
We may be bruised, but we will not be defeated. I know we can overcome the challenges of the 21st-century, and emerge from this crisis.
First, we must acknowledge many economic opportunities are no longer available, but the global pandemic is creating new ones.
Massive transformations are taking place in manufacturing, finance, medicine, security, business, music, fashion, food, entertainment, energy and climate. There is now a new world out there, which this country must first understand, then grasp “with boundless faith in our destiny”.
Entrepreneurship is the key. Our citizens must unlock the Trinbago creativity, passion and energy. There must be a new mindset, new attitudes, new worldviews, searching every prospect, hungrily and courageously, to build businesses.
We have to adapt to 21st-century changes, becoming more aware of emerging realities and trends, overcome the disadvantages of complexity, and develop indigenous Trinbago models.
As a government, we will provide the necessary support and enabling environment. The recent establishment of the Ministry of Digital Transformation will be mapping our transition towards a digital economy.
Other sectors, some traditional and some new, will receive renewed focus as we will take meaningful steps to build, re-build and create further opportunities.
Through our prudent management, and past good fortune this country has amassed some savings and other buffers which have allowed us to weather the economic storm of the pandemic. This is evident in the recent affirmation of our credit rating by Standard & Poor’s debt rating agency.
As an independent nation, though tiny, we have been players on the world stage, and have established our ability to govern ourselves and hold independent and non-aligned positions in world affairs.
Finally, as Dr. Williams stated: “The strength of the Nation depends on the strength of its citizens”.
Fellow citizens let’s all truly believe and act within these ideals. The national interest, the national cause must always go above and beyond, partisan politics and private interests; it must always be pre-eminent, for in this way we are all better off in all situations and for all times.
Again, I wish all of Trinidad and Tobago a happy and thoughtful Independence Day.
Make a special effort to stay safe and may God continue to Bless Our Nation.
Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
Ask yaself how the biggest security company in TT cud ne owned by a people who have no security experience? How many 1% looking ppl do you ever see joining TTPS, TTDF, TTCG or Prisons etc yet they are getting all security contracts. Based on what pedigree?
A couple of months ago your min of nat sec was of chinese descent. Your AG is Iraqi and your MOF is essentially white. Major cabinet posts given to people who are neither black nor brown yet decisions taken affect those two groups the most.
Happy independence day. You're a new slave but don't drink the cool Aid.
Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Independence was a con to put state resources in the hands of a few under the guise of the "State". Williams then orchestrated the political system to benefit the leader and friends/family of the leader. Most wealthy ppl in TT get wealthy based on political connections. That stifles innovation and essentially keeps a country back. The cream needs to rise to the top. Watch Singapore etc.
There was never any plan for development. The goal was to own state resources that is why everything was/still is nationalised. To create dependency syndrome within the country. We are essentially living within a socialist state it's just marketed to use differently.
Being a UK citizen has no real benefit unless you are white, upper class and living on the mainland UK. If you are from a colonial outpost then your life isn't viewed as equal to those back in the UK. You may simply have been living in the caribbean and just have to settle for being a bell boy or chamber maid as those would be the roles offered to you because of "tourism". The caribbean outposts are viewed as nothing more than places for white tourists to come and put their legs up on "holiday". It's not a place they care to develop tbh. They are already focused on the mainland.
Remember when disaster hit a dutch island how the dutch government made sure and evacuated all of the white islanders first? They also sent the military to protect the white owner's assets from looting etc.
That's the reality of colonial life.
Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
zoom rader wrote:Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Independence was a con to put state resources in the hands of a few under the guise of the "State". Williams then orchestrated the political system to benefit the leader and friends/family of the leader. Most wealthy ppl in TT get wealthy based on political connections. That stifles innovation and essentially keeps a country back. The cream needs to rise to the top. Watch Singapore etc.
There was never any plan for development. The goal was to own state resources that is why everything was/still is nationalised. To create dependency syndrome within the country. We are essentially living within a socialist state it's just marketed to use differently.
Being a UK citizen has no real benefit unless you are white, upper class and living on the mainland UK. If you are from a colonial outpost then your life isn't viewed as equal to those back in the UK. You may simply have been living in the caribbean and just have to settle for being a bell boy or chamber maid as those would be the roles offered to you because of "tourism". The caribbean outposts are viewed as nothing more than places for white tourists to come and put their legs up on "holiday". It's not a place they care to develop tbh. They are already focused on the mainland.
Remember when disaster hit a dutch island how the dutch government made sure and evacuated all of the white islanders first? They also sent the military to protect the white owner's assets from looting etc.
That's the reality of colonial life.
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FrankChag wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Independence was a con to put state resources in the hands of a few under the guise of the "State". Williams then orchestrated the political system to benefit the leader and friends/family of the leader. Most wealthy ppl in TT get wealthy based on political connections. That stifles innovation and essentially keeps a country back. The cream needs to rise to the top. Watch Singapore etc.
There was never any plan for development. The goal was to own state resources that is why everything was/still is nationalised. To create dependency syndrome within the country. We are essentially living within a socialist state it's just marketed to use differently.
Being a UK citizen has no real benefit unless you are white, upper class and living on the mainland UK. If you are from a colonial outpost then your life isn't viewed as equal to those back in the UK. You may simply have been living in the caribbean and just have to settle for being a bell boy or chamber maid as those would be the roles offered to you because of "tourism". The caribbean outposts are viewed as nothing more than places for white tourists to come and put their legs up on "holiday". It's not a place they care to develop tbh. They are already focused on the mainland.
Remember when disaster hit a dutch island how the dutch government made sure and evacuated all of the white islanders first? They also sent the military to protect the white owner's assets from looting etc.
That's the reality of colonial life.
dread
I think I agree. Balanced.
I mean, look at the french colonies.
Its not our leaders.We put them there.Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:zoom rader wrote:Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Independence was a con to put state resources in the hands of a few under the guise of the "State". Williams then orchestrated the political system to benefit the leader and friends/family of the leader. Most wealthy ppl in TT get wealthy based on political connections. That stifles innovation and essentially keeps a country back. The cream needs to rise to the top. Watch Singapore etc.
There was never any plan for development. The goal was to own state resources that is why everything was/still is nationalised. To create dependency syndrome within the country. We are essentially living within a socialist state it's just marketed to use differently.
Being a UK citizen has no real benefit unless you are white, upper class and living on the mainland UK. If you are from a colonial outpost then your life isn't viewed as equal to those back in the UK. You may simply have been living in the caribbean and just have to settle for being a bell boy or chamber maid as those would be the roles offered to you because of "tourism". The caribbean outposts are viewed as nothing more than places for white tourists to come and put their legs up on "holiday". It's not a place they care to develop tbh. They are already focused on the mainland.
Remember when disaster hit a dutch island how the dutch government made sure and evacuated all of the white islanders first? They also sent the military to protect the white owner's assets from looting etc.
That's the reality of colonial life.
dread
I think I agree. Balanced.
I mean, look at the french colonies.
I think we are better of independent tbh. I just wish the leaders were more interested in putting us on even footing with the rest of the developed world. Too much corruption and selfish agendas.
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Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
Those 3 new hospitals were built by foreign contractors selected by the PP. How does this enrich PNM friends, families and financiers?
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Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Redress10 wrote:Habit7 wrote:In August of 1962 Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago set out as independent countries, with Jamaica being wealthier than TT. This weekend as the world is still dealing with a raging pandemic, Jamaican hospitals ran out of oxygen not just for covid patients but for mothers having C sections and neo natal babies. Ppl have to lie on mattresses in the waiting room because their wards are overflowing.
While we in TT have 3 brand new hospitals and a reinitiated one that was mothballed. All part of a parallel healthcare service to deal with the pandemic.
But somebody wants to tell me that we have failed to progress and everything is bad in my land.
Happy Independence T&T, we are not prefect but we have done well.
All built with the sole purpose of enriching friends, families and financiers and providing kick backs to politicians. The pnm exists to enrich the 1%. They just use the blk ppl to ride into power to access the treasury. The 1% are the new slave owners.
Those 3 new hospitals were built by foreign contractors selected by the PP. How does this enrich PNM friends, families and financiers?
Sorry. I meant political class*. Didn't mean to single out the PNM. Even though it was that party that built the system as it is for a very specific purpose of diverting public funds. The US has military industrial context and we have tenderpreneurship.
Ever notice how something somewhere is always being built with no real specific purpose but a sod turning is always occuring somewhere? And yet the country still isn't developing even with all these "developments" etc.
The UNC just took corruption to a whole other level but they didn't build the system like that. They just took advantage. The system was designed to fail boy. The reason it eh completely collapse is because it have some seriously patriotic trinis working in the shadows to keep things afloat. Ppl who will never get enough praise.
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