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Everyone else ignoring his/her rants. Don't enable him/her. It's a problem because the red government is promoting it.....st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
The Electric vehicle is as old as the ICE and just as good .st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
Your just another uninformed Jack arse that will accept and believe what you been told. This is why Hitler convinced ppl that his party had all the answers.wing wrote:Everyone else ignoring his/her rants. Don't enable him/her. It's a problem because the red government is promoting it.....st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
*Stares volkswagenllyyzoom rader wrote:Your just another uninformed Jack arse that will accept and believe what you been told. This is why Hitler convinced ppl that his party had all the answers.wing wrote:Everyone else ignoring his/her rants. Don't enable him/her. It's a problem because the red government is promoting it.....st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
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This does not solve the red government forex assumed problem.A172 wrote:lol@ posers suddenly becoming tesla owners come jan 2022
pugboy wrote:the orders should be in as they on 6th year in power and they can change cars every 3
zoom rader wrote:The Electric vehicle is as old as the ICE and just as good .st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
The problem with Electric vehicles is the cost. A giant monopoly on mining, supplying and production is taking place on lithium. Its going to be a hugh business but a lot of misinformation is being told for people to convert from ICE. Its the same with the diamond industry where there is a hugh monopoly and inflated prices for a common rock that is abundant in Africa. These people limit the amount of diamonds on the market and set their own price. The very same is happening on the lithium batteries. Australia & SA has the largest mines and are buying the smaller mines in Africa.
The biggest lie is green house gasses where they are blaming cars when infact its the airline industry that produces the most green house gasses. The mining of lithium produces a hugh amount of carbon footprint which offsets that of cars.
Here's a fact Cows produce more green house gasses than cars .
https://news.un.org/en/story/2006/11/20 ... port-warns.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... greenpeace
All this banning of cars and trying to convince ppl to buy karts is bullchit.
The purpose of replacing cars was to limit greenhouse gases, first they need to solve the Cattle problem then the airline industry.
Green house gasses is world wide and not limited to any one county.redmanjp wrote:but how much cow trinidad have? not more than half a million like we have in cars
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/st7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:The Electric vehicle is as old as the ICE and just as good .st7 wrote:zoom, what is your solution then? what options should be entertained instead of electric vehicles?
The problem with Electric vehicles is the cost. A giant monopoly on mining, supplying and production is taking place on lithium. Its going to be a hugh business but a lot of misinformation is being told for people to convert from ICE. Its the same with the diamond industry where there is a hugh monopoly and inflated prices for a common rock that is abundant in Africa. These people limit the amount of diamonds on the market and set their own price. The very same is happening on the lithium batteries. Australia & SA has the largest mines and are buying the smaller mines in Africa.
The biggest lie is green house gasses where they are blaming cars when infact its the airline industry that produces the most green house gasses. The mining of lithium produces a hugh amount of carbon footprint which offsets that of cars.
Here's a fact Cows produce more green house gasses than cars .
https://news.un.org/en/story/2006/11/20 ... port-warns.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... greenpeace
All this banning of cars and trying to convince ppl to buy karts is bullchit.
The purpose of replacing cars was to limit greenhouse gases, first they need to solve the Cattle problem then the airline industry.
ok i now had a chance to look at your links thinking they were about lithium mining etc lol
for sure rearing cattle in large scale does cause environmental issues. can you share any links wrt what you said about mining lithium?
pugboy wrote:I think they say most charging is either a 30amp or higher rater 50amp.
pulling 40+amp 220v continuous could have an effect on the property supply if marginal
some streets might need to upgrade their transformers etckamakazi wrote:I see the discussion here is more energetic.
So a couple of questions
1. Anyone knows how EVs handle surges or low voltage.
2. Can our electricity grid handle the increased demand of people switching to EVs.
@ Les Bain
Some EVs still have a transmission, differential and/or tranaxle that still requires servicing.
I know Tesla still requires gear oil... But I don't think it is user serviceable.
kamakazi wrote:I see the discussion here is more energetic.
So a couple of questions
1. Anyone knows how EVs handle surges or low voltage.
2. Can our electricity grid handle the increased demand of people switching to EVs.
@ Les Bain
Some EVs still have a transmission, differential and/or tranaxle that still requires servicing.
I know Tesla still requires gear oil... But I don't think it is user serviceable.
A172 wrote:the only "cheap" ev japan roro it have is the Leaf and a 2020 model is $23,000 cnf. Even if u had cash to bring in one who gonna waste $166k of their $ behind that junk?
most ppl ketching dey qont to even qualify at the bank for $100k to buy a swift or note so Leaf at dealer markup not even in their scope of reality
all the other EVs is 300k and up so that done disqualify posers
EV will never pickup on a large scale here like how all them cheap hybrids did so rn is just the usual cyak from the cyakers after a budget reading
The Electric vehicle has been here over a 100 years.VII wrote:The thing is, this is the direction the world is going, like it or not, our petty issues won't make a difference, all major manufacturers will only have electric vehicles in years to come and major countries have set as close as 2030 as the dealine for electric only new car sales, that's the bigger picture, realize no one is asking what T&T thinks .
Getting a ICE engine car would be like trying to get a manual car now, very few choices. For the purists maybe only a few top of the line bespoke exotics would be available and out of the reach of most, as everything else market forces and other market dynamics will dictate the prices supply etc going forward and prices are set to reduce, and usability, durability, capacity, overall performance etc will increase, just think mobile phones and computers, look at what they cost in the early stages, they were out of the reach of most, just look at the vast difference in their packaging capability and supporting infrastructure then and now.,
I'm sure the switch from animal powered carts to petrol was met with similar challenges and resistance. There's still a concrete horse watering trauf in Laventille btw, right outside Success Composite .
So what we prefer and what we think really isn't relevant in the middle to long term, adapt or be prepared to water your horse.
redmanjp wrote:if electricity prices increase x5 would it still be worth it?
The cost does not offset the impact of the greenhouse gases produced by the manufacturer of these kartsadnj wrote:Electric vehicles could cost less than $5,000 some day, Morgan Stanley analysts predict
A new electric car could eventually cost as little as $3,000, Morgan Stanley analysts said.
The bank expects electric-vehicle prices to continue to drop for the next decade at least.
Plummeting EV prices could render gas-powered cars completely obsolete, they said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/electri ... e%20future.
zoom rader wrote:The Electric vehicle has been here over a 100 years.VII wrote:The thing is, this is the direction the world is going, like it or not, our petty issues won't make a difference, all major manufacturers will only have electric vehicles in years to come and major countries have set as close as 2030 as the dealine for electric only new car sales, that's the bigger picture, realize no one is asking what T&T thinks .
Getting a ICE engine car would be like trying to get a manual car now, very few choices. For the purists maybe only a few top of the line bespoke exotics would be available and out of the reach of most, as everything else market forces and other market dynamics will dictate the prices supply etc going forward and prices are set to reduce, and usability, durability, capacity, overall performance etc will increase, just think mobile phones and computers, look at what they cost in the early stages, they were out of the reach of most, just look at the vast difference in their packaging capability and supporting infrastructure then and now.,
I'm sure the switch from animal powered carts to petrol was met with similar challenges and resistance. There's still a concrete horse watering trauf in Laventille btw, right outside Success Composite .
So what we prefer and what we think really isn't relevant in the middle to long term, adapt or be prepared to water your horse.
They could not find a way to sell it and then they found greenhouse gases as a way to sell it.
What they not telling you is that process to manufacture the kart produces more greenhouse gases and then a hazard of waste disposal.
Big business don't care about greenhouse gases , your health or pollution. All that matters is their profits.
It's a con job for your money
Wait till the electricity rates goes up and when it's time to replace the lithium batteries.st7 wrote:redmanjp wrote:if electricity prices increase x5 would it still be worth it?
according to Massy, a full charge is around $18, and the Ioniq 2020 range is up to 270km (according to google)
My thing is the resale value on those electric cars are deplorable, we have no scrap yard here so where are those ICE cars going when the transition occurszoom rader wrote:Wait till the electricity rates goes up and when it's time to replace the lithium batteries.st7 wrote:redmanjp wrote:if electricity prices increase x5 would it still be worth it?
according to Massy, a full charge is around $18, and the Ioniq 2020 range is up to 270km (according to google)
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