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World record: Toyota Mirai travels 1360km on one hydrogen tank
The 2021 Toyota Mirai sedan has set a new hydrogen efficiency benchmark, completing a 1360.378km round trip in Southern California on a single 5.65kg tank of hydrogen.
Foreign brand name manufacturers set up operations in China for cheap labour. The manufacturing process has to be held as the same quality of standards as if it made in the brands home county.2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You go ahead buy your Chinese car.2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
I suspect most of the parts used in non Chinese karts are made in China but under quality control.david12 wrote:You go ahead buy your Chinese car.2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
2WNBoost wrote:Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
Bro , feel free to buy a Chinese brand kart.2WNBoost wrote:The TATA group owning other brands does automatically translate into a TATA product being of high quality.
PS: Range Rovers and Jaguars have poor reliability
FYI: OnePlus and Lenovo are domestic Chinese brands
zoom rader wrote:I suspect most of the parts used in non Chinese karts are made in China but under quality control.david12 wrote:You go ahead buy your Chinese car.2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
Jack arse, I never responded to you so hush ya lil boy Cont.Ben_spanna wrote:BTW, all i said was a Chinese Full Electric car on its way to our shores and zoom got his panties in a bunch, the new MG is all china made, a reputable company that was bought out and the rights purchased by a Chinese company to use their brand! And yes they are making a full electric to cater to our market.. so it's not any brand name car like Singsong or Pongting that coming!
zoom rader wrote:Jack arse, I never responded to you so hush ya lil boy Cont.Ben_spanna wrote:BTW, all i said was a Chinese Full Electric car on its way to our shores and zoom got his panties in a bunch, the new MG is all china made, a reputable company that was bought out and the rights purchased by a Chinese company to use their brand! And yes they are making a full electric to cater to our market.. so it's not any brand name car like Singsong or Pongting that coming!
I responded to Boost
2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
Learn to read and who responded to you next time lil ContBen_spanna wrote:zoom rader wrote:Jack arse, I never responded to you so hush ya lil boy Cont.Ben_spanna wrote:BTW, all i said was a Chinese Full Electric car on its way to our shores and zoom got his panties in a bunch, the new MG is all china made, a reputable company that was bought out and the rights purchased by a Chinese company to use their brand! And yes they are making a full electric to cater to our market.. so it's not any brand name car like Singsong or Pongting that coming!
I responded to Boost
Expected as much as this eloquent response given your level of ignorance and superb Distinction in the studies of the Red gubment. it must really burn you to look, smell and behave exactly like a Pee enn emme leader!
You don't have to prove a point padna. If you feel like you want a car that was put together in China you go ahead.2WNBoost wrote:The TATA group owning other brands does automatically translate into a TATA product being of high quality.
PS: Range Rovers and Jaguars have poor reliability
FYI: OnePlus and Lenovo are domestic Chinese brands
Ben_spanna wrote:Hearing confirmed rumors of Full Electric Chinese Made vehicles making its way to our shores come early 2022, now we will see who/what companies the budget was catering to:
Only certain markets allow Chinese brands in their countries.Les Bain wrote:2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You're right, but the products you're referring to were manufactured in China for foreign companies in order to turn a profit for management, screwing over unionized workers and local workforce.
Chinese domestic products that find their way into foreign markets are the problematic ones. And since China playing good guy Gordon with the PNM, the door is wide open for Trinidad to be a dumping ground, especially as the forex situation has many imported goods disappearing from the shelves.
zoom rader wrote:Only certain markets allow Chinese brands in their countries.Les Bain wrote:2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You're right, but the products you're referring to were manufactured in China for foreign companies in order to turn a profit for management, screwing over unionized workers and local workforce.
Chinese domestic products that find their way into foreign markets are the problematic ones. And since China playing good guy Gordon with the PNM, the door is wide open for Trinidad to be a dumping ground, especially as the forex situation has many imported goods disappearing from the shelves.
Other countries upkeep laws protecting quality and safety where fake goods are being sold.
But this Trinidad so any garbage can enter, but they protect cement and AC units
Bye idiotBen_spanna wrote:zoom rader wrote:Only certain markets allow Chinese brands in their countries.Les Bain wrote:2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You're right, but the products you're referring to were manufactured in China for foreign companies in order to turn a profit for management, screwing over unionized workers and local workforce.
Chinese domestic products that find their way into foreign markets are the problematic ones. And since China playing good guy Gordon with the PNM, the door is wide open for Trinidad to be a dumping ground, especially as the forex situation has many imported goods disappearing from the shelves.
Other countries upkeep laws protecting quality and safety where fake goods are being sold.
But this Trinidad so any garbage can enter, but they protect cement and AC units
YOU are living proof of this statement.....
delusional to be using bank rate for roro imports in 2021agent007 wrote:P&V Marketing advertised on FB some Leafs starting at $185k (mind you Mr Babwah advertised same just recently at $210k so he slashed the price by $25k).
For reference, the cheapest Leaf on SBT's website is $22,321. USD (stock ID: DQY6493), a 2018 model.
ER: 1 USD = 6.7993 (FCB 19/10/21)
So I've derived the following calculation:
$22,321. X 6.7993 = $151,767.18 (CIF)
Mr Babwah's current inventory of Leafs would have been subject to full taxes and plus he has to make a profit.
He sources the USD on our behalf, he imports and clears the car and will clean/ 'service' it as well as give us a warranty all for a difference of $33k thereabouts?
Also, come 2022, this price is expected to supposedly decrease? Let's just say I can get a 2019 Leaf for $160k tax free then I don't mind jumping in, cause I already pulled the trigger on 2 Hybrids previously so I'm familiar with electrification.
Question is, am I kidding myself? Also can the Japanese language on both the head unit and instrument cluster screens be changed to English fully? If not, are there any Pioneer, Kenwood or Sony double DIN stereos that has 360 camera support just in case I buy such a Leaf and decide to pelt away the Jap head unit?
zoom rader wrote:Only certain markets allow Chinese brands in their countries.Les Bain wrote:2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You're right, but the products you're referring to were manufactured in China for foreign companies in order to turn a profit for management, screwing over unionized workers and local workforce.
Chinese domestic products that find their way into foreign markets are the problematic ones. And since China playing good guy Gordon with the PNM, the door is wide open for Trinidad to be a dumping ground, especially as the forex situation has many imported goods disappearing from the shelves.
Other countries upkeep laws protecting quality and safety where fake goods are being sold.
But this Trinidad so any garbage can enter, but they protect cement and AC units
Don't get fooled with the US, they have to play the game with China. They have to maintain certain relations and trade is one of then.2WNBoost wrote:So what do you say about this?
Selling cheap vehicles is what helped TATA amass a fortune.
People will buy what suits their pocket.
PS: This isn't lithium ion powered, I just posted to show that even the US will import cheap Chinese goods
https://electrek.co/2021/10/18/cheapest-ev-in-usa/
The cheapest EV in the world has landed in the US – here’s what it’s like
Mikey G
- Oct. 18th 2021 12:41 pm PT
Electrek was invited to try out the cheapest EV in the world, which is manufactured by Changli. It was hilarious, cute, “cheap” in every way, and a wild exercise for the imagination. Even though it doesn’t retain its famed price tag, the US importers have put great effort into adding back value where the shipping costs took it away. Changli manufactures these vehicles in China to be used as taxis and personal transportation. Vehicles like these are used by urban-dwelling workers to get around a dense landscape. Working people in China are attracted to them for one principle reason: These cars are cheap.
We’re talking lead-acid batteries, the cheapest plastic dashboard you’ve ever seen, stickers instead of fog lights, and steering that I would describe as having a learning curve. It goes without saying that you won’t find a tech-heavy interior with a software-driven experience like we’ve seen from forward-thinking automakers. The Changlis are brass tacks basic, which has a certain appeal.
Changli comes to America
Electric Import Motors (EIM), importers of these cheap micro cars, got into the business as a joke. After seeing an article about the cheapest EV in the world, EIM put its prior experience in shipping and logistics to use and sourced its first car. Changli vehicles hit the news over a year ago when news outlets headlined the $900 price tag. True, it was $900 before the current global shipping problems and if it’s bought in China, but shipping and associated costs make up the majority of the “real” price for anyone outside of China (as fellow Electrek writer Micah Toll found out when he purchased one from China). The first EIM order prompted another order of a few tailored cars for the US market. Without an ounce of marketing, those were sold almost instantly.
Now the joke has some serious legs. Despite the increased shipping price, EIM has sold several containers’ worth of cars by now and pre-sold them for about six months. So, what’s the big deal? Why are these tricked-out grocery carts so popular? What really makes these so fun and unique is the cost and the size. The most obvious comparison in size and scale is a golf cart. In the good old days before the pandemic, a golf cart would start at around $7,000 to $8,000 without windows, doors, heater, etc. On the other end of the chasm is a full-sized car. Electric cars are great. At Electrek, we live and breathe them every day, but our favorite full-blown EVs can be expensive and overkill for simple uses.
How to get a Changli vehicle in the US
The “Grunt” car can go about 20 miles on a charge and do roughly 25 mph. This is a great option for running around town, grocery trips, post office runs, or other short trips on slow roads. It can seat two adults in the front and two kids in the back. With the “Pak Yak” truck, like Micah bought, the larger battery and motor setup allows it to go further, faster, and of course, to haul more. You can expect about 40 miles of range, and a top speed of 35 mph. This opens doors to even more possibilities, such as moving lawn debris, hauling car parts, or even moving (very small) pieces of furniture. The Pak Yak truck can seat two adults. Keep in mind that Changli vehicles are not homologated for on-road use in the US and do not meet the required Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards for their class of motor vehicle. Thus, they are not street legal in most areas of the country.
We had a chance to sit down with Caleb Nelson, founder of Electric Import Motors.
Changli’s US price
So, as a one-stop-shop, EIM now imports the cars to provide customers with one easy-to-understand cost. A base model car costs $6,500, while a truck will run you $8,500. Shipping to your door could run around $800, possibly less. As of writing this article, we are still in the midst of the global pandemic, and rippling shipping industry chaos. The shipping raising the cost of soup, nuts, and Changlis hasn’t stopped the American buyer – as Nelson points out, containers are still selling out. EIM aims to add value to the equation by taking care of all the necessary paperwork and ensuring safe and proper delivery of the cars during each step of the journey. Completing the proper paperwork is key, as Uncle Sam’s punitive fees can explode into hefty fines when done improperly. Since EIM is importing entire containers at a time, the company can ensure that no other cargo is shipped inside, which risks damage, and EIM inspects the vehicles before the final US shipment. For now, this pet business is still importing, and they are sold out for about six months from now. If the market continues to pine for small EVs, we might see other makes and models on American roads very soon.
Electrek’s Take
There are quite a number of micro-cars and personal mobility items that fit a particular niche, but with the exception of electric bikes, none of them have really become mainstream. I think the primary reason is quirkiness and value proposition. The EIM Grunt and Pak Yak were so much fun to drive that it was like being a kid again. It was so small and quirky that I was grinning from ear to ear the whole time. People were looking and staring, and several stopped us to ask about the vehicle and its origins. Some people really like being the center of attention and enjoy showcasing a new way to look at transportation (actually, a lot of us at Electrek are that way), but that’s not a common personality trait in the real world. If the Changli vehicles were $900 in the US, they would be on every street in America. At that point it wouldn’t be rare anymore, it wouldn’t be strange or quirky. It would just be normal. Since these cars have a higher price, they will primarily be in the hands of green-tech extroverts that will make a big show about their oddball purchase.zoom rader wrote:Only certain markets allow Chinese brands in their countries.Les Bain wrote:2WNBoost wrote:What’s the complaint about Chinese goods?
Don’t we buy Chinese made lights, decorations, security cameras, tools and appliances?
Why not Chinese vehicles?
Indian vehicles are sold here, so why not Chinese?
You're right, but the products you're referring to were manufactured in China for foreign companies in order to turn a profit for management, screwing over unionized workers and local workforce.
Chinese domestic products that find their way into foreign markets are the problematic ones. And since China playing good guy Gordon with the PNM, the door is wide open for Trinidad to be a dumping ground, especially as the forex situation has many imported goods disappearing from the shelves.
Other countries upkeep laws protecting quality and safety where fake goods are being sold.
But this Trinidad so any garbage can enter, but they protect cement and AC units
Only when it does not rain2WNBoost wrote:^^ An electric motorbike is an intriguing option
I am still looking into them as around a round. Here in Bago I live with alot of hills so I have to research if the can handle the conditions here.2WNBoost wrote:Options for delivery services
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