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Marc it's all golf cartspugboy wrote:depends though, barbados apparently has a fair number of electric vehicles BUT small ones like the nissan leaf etc
NOT tesla’s in abundance afaik
and they have a developed charging network
Trinis fix anything, but try and mess with Tesla nahaaron17 wrote:Who does fix electric vehicles here?...
*crickets....
zoom rader wrote:Marc it's all golf cartspugboy wrote:depends though, barbados apparently has a fair number of electric vehicles BUT small ones like the nissan leaf etc
NOT tesla’s in abundance afaik
and they have a developed charging network
The moment you tamper with a Tesla you are on your own .Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ a number of local companies do service and repairs on hybrid and electric vehicles including motor and battery changes.
An electric only car (EV) has less moving parts and less things to repair. The suspension, brakes etc are the same if not very similar to a hybrid or internal combustion engine car.
There are locations with free charging too. Brentwood Unipet gas station has two charging bays, there’s one on Wrightson Road, two at Hilton, soon WestMall, Gulf City and C3 - all offering free charging. I’m not sure what the rate is at the new NP service center in Preysal on the Couva flyover.
zoom rader wrote:The moment you tamper with a Tesla you are on your own .Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ a number of local companies do service and repairs on hybrid and electric vehicles including motor and battery changes.
An electric only car (EV) has less moving parts and less things to repair. The suspension, brakes etc are the same if not very similar to a hybrid or internal combustion engine car.
There are locations with free charging too. Brentwood Unipet gas station has two charging bays, there’s one on Wrightson Road, two at Hilton, soon WestMall, Gulf City and C3 - all offering free charging. I’m not sure what the rate is at the new NP service center in Preysal on the Couva flyover.
redmanjp wrote:So wait u can get a full charge for free?
Ben_spanna wrote:What a stinking joke.
HYBRIDS should have been the target audience here, which would have made a huge difference to the majority of the population.
All this has done is to open the market for
Audi E-tron
Teslas
Porsche Taycan
Jaguar I-pace
Mercedes Electric
All of which are out of reach for most people as the cost for any of them under 2 years is literally over $600,000
Basically he did in fact do that for his friends and the Upper class in the country.
Theres also the question about the All electric MG's - lets see if by some miracle Massy all of a sudden is an intended market for them .
This is what people don't understand, unless if you want to fly them in to service you Tesla then you own you own.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:zoom rader wrote:The moment you tamper with a Tesla you are on your own .Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ a number of local companies do service and repairs on hybrid and electric vehicles including motor and battery changes.
An electric only car (EV) has less moving parts and less things to repair. The suspension, brakes etc are the same if not very similar to a hybrid or internal combustion engine car.
There are locations with free charging too. Brentwood Unipet gas station has two charging bays, there’s one on Wrightson Road, two at Hilton, soon WestMall, Gulf City and C3 - all offering free charging. I’m not sure what the rate is at the new NP service center in Preysal on the Couva flyover.
AFAIK you’re on your own once it’s brought here. We have no official Tesla service here. I’m not sure how the OTA updates work here either.
Ben_spanna wrote:What a stinking joke.
HYBRIDS should have been the target audience here, which would have made a huge difference to the majority of the population.
All this has done is to open the market for
Audi E-tron
Teslas
Porsche Taycan
Jaguar I-pace
Mercedes Electric
All of which are out of reach for most people as the cost for any of them under 2 years is literally over $600,000
Basically he did in fact do that for his friends and the Upper class in the country.
Theres also the question about the All electric MG's - lets see if by some miracle Massy all of a sudden is an intended market for them .
j.o.e wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:What a stinking joke.
HYBRIDS should have been the target audience here, which would have made a huge difference to the majority of the population.
All this has done is to open the market for
Audi E-tron
Teslas
Porsche Taycan
Jaguar I-pace
Mercedes Electric
All of which are out of reach for most people as the cost for any of them under 2 years is literally over $600,000
Basically he did in fact do that for his friends and the Upper class in the country.
Theres also the question about the All electric MG's - lets see if by some miracle Massy all of a sudden is an intended market for them .
So you intentionally chose only high end electric vehicles? There are cheaper (not necessarily cheap) options. Of course Trinis probably have too much pride to drive a small dinky electric car even if it’s cost efficient.
Honestly the new car market should tackle the problem better than the foreign used market.
toyolink wrote:Tax free concessions, in principle should always yield cost benefits to the buyer.
The question which arises with the subject matter here is, what practical or operational benefits would the owner of a electric vehicle enjoy locally.
With the almost complete absence of infrastructure etc. in the short term one wonders who really will choose to go this route at this time.
The budget provisions may be merely symbolic and a demonstration of support for the green initiatives.
At this time in T&T hybrids remain the best fit and there seems to be no acknowledgement of same by the state.
You smelt the rat of the bullchitj.o.e wrote:toyolink wrote:Tax free concessions, in principle should always yield cost benefits to the buyer.
The question which arises with the subject matter here is, what practical or operational benefits would the owner of a electric vehicle enjoy locally.
With the almost complete absence of infrastructure etc. in the short term one wonders who really will choose to go this route at this time.
The budget provisions may be merely symbolic and a demonstration of support for the green initiatives.
At this time in T&T hybrids remain the best fit and there seems to be no acknowledgement of same by the state.
Chicken and the egg. There will be no infrastructure until there are vehicles. If I were govt I would offer some sort of tax concession to businesses and employers who make charging available to customers/staff.
Let’s not forget trinidad is small and you can reliably charge at home. While public charging is nice it isn’t necessary for our situation. No one is driving cross continent.
j.o.e wrote:toyolink wrote:Tax free concessions, in principle should always yield cost benefits to the buyer.
The question which arises with the subject matter here is, what practical or operational benefits would the owner of a electric vehicle enjoy locally.
With the almost complete absence of infrastructure etc. in the short term one wonders who really will choose to go this route at this time.
The budget provisions may be merely symbolic and a demonstration of support for the green initiatives.
At this time in T&T hybrids remain the best fit and there seems to be no acknowledgement of same by the state.
Chicken and the egg. There will be no infrastructure until there are vehicles. If I were govt I would offer some sort of tax concession to businesses and employers who make charging available to customers/staff.
Let’s not forget trinidad is small and you can reliably charge at home. While public charging is nice it isn’t necessary for our situation. No one is driving cross continent.
pugboy wrote:the orders should be in as they on 6th year in power and they can change cars every 3
That's for now, wait in 5 years time when rates are x 4. Plus cost of replacing lithium batteries is not cheap.2WNBoost wrote:Tesla Model S battery = 100kWh
T&TEC Residential Rate = $0.37 per kWh
Cost to fully charge = 100 x 0.37 = $37
Adding 15% efficiency loss = 15 x 0.37 = $5.55
Total Cost = $37 + $5.55 = $42.55
Less than a full tank of gas even if electricity rates are doubled
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:j.o.e wrote:toyolink wrote:Tax free concessions, in principle should always yield cost benefits to the buyer.
The question which arises with the subject matter here is, what practical or operational benefits would the owner of a electric vehicle enjoy locally.
With the almost complete absence of infrastructure etc. in the short term one wonders who really will choose to go this route at this time.
The budget provisions may be merely symbolic and a demonstration of support for the green initiatives.
At this time in T&T hybrids remain the best fit and there seems to be no acknowledgement of same by the state.
Chicken and the egg. There will be no infrastructure until there are vehicles. If I were govt I would offer some sort of tax concession to businesses and employers who make charging available to customers/staff.
Let’s not forget trinidad is small and you can reliably charge at home. While public charging is nice it isn’t necessary for our situation. No one is driving cross continent.
Agreed - charging stations are more of a convenience at shopping malls etc.
So far the charging units that have been installed by Porsche are paid for by the dealership and the light bill is handled by the location owner. So lets say they install it at the mall, the mall pays the light bill but it's an attraction for customers to charge for free while shopping, dining etc. And these work for most EVs and PHEV (plug in hybrids) as the plug socket is the same (not for Tesla though).
The majority of people will charge at home.
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