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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby The_Honourable » November 4th, 2022, 1:44 pm

FUL or not, he made up his mind to kill her and himself.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 4th, 2022, 1:50 pm

i guess gg can no longer use the line that “no legal ful holder has killed anybody illegally”

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby FrankChag » November 4th, 2022, 3:02 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:514: Derrick stout shot and killed in pleasantville

515: Curtis George was shot on the 20th in Tacarigua. He died on the 25th

516: dillon manickram was shot on the 14th sept. He died on the 4th october


So 2 more for October? That makes October 2022 the new bloodiest month for the last 5 years, at 68 murders.

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MONTH,1999,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022
Jan,,64,45,46,28,50
Feb,,98,89,102,56,89
Mar,,143,123,141,89,129
Apr,,178,172,175,118,182
May,,234,213,200,147,226
Jun,,281,257,241,179,265
Jul,,326,319,274,221,329
Aug,,370,370,296,252,393
Sep,,406,411,320,293,443
Oct,,443,443,353,349,511
Nov,,488,496,379,416,
Dec,,526,546,409,449,

,93,526,546,409,449,511
Source Threads:,,,,,,
2018,,http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=718841
2019,,http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=737072
2020,,http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=750112
2021,,http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=759138
2022,,https://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=765674

MONTH,1999,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022
Jan,,64,45,46,28,50
Feb,,34,44,56,28,39
Mar,,45,34,39,33,40
Apr,,35,49,34,29,53
May,,56,41,25,29,44
Jun,,47,44,41,32,39
Jul,,45,62,33,42,64
Aug,,44,51,22,31,64
Sep,,36,41,24,41,50
Oct,,37,32,33,56,68
Nov,,45,53,26,67,
Dec,,38,50,30,33,

TOTAL,93,526,546,409,449,511
AVERAGE,,43.8,45.5,34.1,37.4,51.1



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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby Rovin » November 4th, 2022, 3:17 pm

The_Honourable wrote:FUL or not, he made up his mind to kill her and himself.


true eh, when ah man get in that state of mind a gun is just a tool & he happen to be a ful holder

jes last mth had when d man strangled d woman then hang himself & other times man chop up woman then drink poison

sadly none of this is new ...

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby MaxPower » November 4th, 2022, 3:23 pm

Rovin wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:FUL or not, he made up his mind to kill her and himself.


true eh, when ah man get in that state of mind a gun is just a tool & he happen to be a ful holder

jes last mth had when d man strangled d woman then hang himself & other times man chop up woman then drink poison

sadly none of this is new ...


True talk boi star.

But once they include “ful” in anything it always raises some eyebrows.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 4th, 2022, 4:07 pm

521: kendell Williams shot and killed in tunapuna

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 4th, 2022, 4:44 pm

if using avg of last 5 months for forward estimate of nov, dec we looking at 620+ for the year

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 4th, 2022, 4:45 pm

it easier to pickup the gun than a cutlass though
plenty less work

Rovin wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:FUL or not, he made up his mind to kill her and himself.


true eh, when ah man get in that state of mind a gun is just a tool & he happen to be a ful holder

jes last mth had when d man strangled d woman then hang himself & other times man chop up woman then drink poison

sadly none of this is new ...

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby The_Honourable » November 4th, 2022, 11:03 pm

Reports of a double in carenage

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby MDtuner70 » November 5th, 2022, 2:08 am

Type Rated wrote:Shake you doing a great job keeping us informed with the murders but can you assist or let’s start a new thread to track shooting incidents. While murder stats are a good indicator of the rise in crime, I think tracking on stats of numbers of shootings per day and location can help us keep each other safe as we see a rise in collateral’s


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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby MDtuner70 » November 5th, 2022, 2:10 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Boy I'd be on tuner 24/7....lol...if the mods allow it, I'd do it.....if I have to start such a thread...would be in January



Give thanks same way. That is tuner for your money.

Take note @choopid man Max. You are here decades now, contribute something na bai.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby MDtuner70 » November 5th, 2022, 2:12 am

pugboy wrote:if using avg of last 5 months for forward estimate of nov, dec we looking at 620+ for the year


I forecasted 650+ some days ago here. Lets hope that's wrong and it will be less.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 5th, 2022, 5:01 am

The_Honourable wrote:Reports of a double in carenage


Confirmed

522: levi Williams
523: khalifee Pierre

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby Dohplaydat » November 5th, 2022, 6:48 am

MDtuner70 wrote:
pugboy wrote:if using avg of last 5 months for forward estimate of nov, dec we looking at 620+ for the year


I forecasted 650+ some days ago here. Lets hope that's wrong and it will be less.


It was always going to be close to 600, my earlier predictions were 590-600 but now we're on course for 620-640 right now with 650 definitely being a possibility.
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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2022, 8:17 am

yeah everybody was pretty much predicting close to 600
now it’s certainly seems going over

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby timelapse » November 5th, 2022, 10:05 am

PNM Government has left the chat

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby hover11 » November 5th, 2022, 10:11 am

timelapse wrote:PNM Government has left the chat
They still very much here as crime as always been high under PNM, to the point where the dotish supporters bawl.....well wa allya expect the government to do about crime, you cah fix that.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby Rovin » November 5th, 2022, 10:24 am

dj sheriff say d 2 carenage murders were a gang leader & his right hand - i know it have allyuh tuners who out here in dem areas cud elaborate some more

poo nm be like well crime & murder is worldwide u cud never stop dat so we gonna pretend we doing something teefin\spending millions to keep our financiers well fed & to keep our dummy voters\supporters passive ...

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 5th, 2022, 6:54 pm

524: Nigel Paul shot and killed in valencia

Possible 525: meshack seenath shot and killed in barataria

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2022, 7:11 pm

the gun violence and gang related incidents are too widespread across the country now,
its not a hotspot related thing anymore

truth be told the only way to slow the murders down numberswise would be to do a manning style hyatt lunch with the "community leaders"
but this would expire in a matter of months and is just a plaster on a sore.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby hover11 » November 5th, 2022, 7:20 pm

Na boi you think them community leaders will fall for sum like this rounds?
pugboy wrote:the gun violence and gang related incidents are too widespread across the country now,
its not a hotspot related thing anymore

truth be told the only way to slow the murders down numberswise would be to do a manning style hyatt lunch with the "community leaders"
but this would expire in a matter of months and is just a plaster on a sore.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2022, 7:21 pm

they would because they know how short their lifespans are

hover11 wrote:Na boi you think them community leaders will fall for sum like this rounds?
pugboy wrote:the gun violence and gang related incidents are too widespread across the country now,
its not a hotspot related thing anymore

truth be told the only way to slow the murders down numberswise would be to do a manning style hyatt lunch with the "community leaders"
but this would expire in a matter of months and is just a plaster on a sore.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 5th, 2022, 8:08 pm

The only way to slow down the murders is by sending it sky high....shrugs shoulders

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » November 5th, 2022, 9:00 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:524: Nigel Paul shot and killed in valencia

Possible 525: beesham seenath shot and killed in barataria


525 confirmed

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby alfa » November 5th, 2022, 9:49 pm

hover11 wrote:Na boi you think them community leaders will fall for sum like this rounds?
pugboy wrote:the gun violence and gang related incidents are too widespread across the country now,
its not a hotspot related thing anymore

truth be told the only way to slow the murders down numberswise would be to do a manning style hyatt lunch with the "community leaders"
but this would expire in a matter of months and is just a plaster on a sore.

Didn't they have a Laventille peace treaty about 20 years ago with 20 gang leaders pledging to stop killing each other and Gladiator was the moderator of the event. Everyone eventually got killed including gladiator

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby VII » November 6th, 2022, 6:55 am

There are no 'community leaders' anymore btw . The new breed of murderer is guided by data whatsapp and social media . Sorry but this isn't 2000 . 2 whatsapp, a quick real-time pic and a location and man dead. Too many lone wolfves and fly by night 'leaders' now for any meeting to be meaningful..

Many of the murders are 'better' killing worst btw...many are reprisals for crimes against people etc.


It all boils down to the availability of guns and idiots willing to use them .

Having said that the authorities are doing f@ck all about it and remain hapless and clueless . No bail and 'life' for illegal firearms is the only solution, especially dem big ting, there will be collateral but there is also collateral now and they're all dead and more dying everyday .

It's only a matter of time before we get a mass killing with all those Ars etc.. (although theoretically we've had mass killings with all those quadruples etc, but I mean 8-9-10 + ...big ting hatta do it wuk and dem idiots restraint running out daily ...
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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby Dohplaydat » November 6th, 2022, 8:06 am

High murder rates are an indication of gang competition, either the money source drying up or growing. Both can instigate rise in murders as both breed competition.

What I can't understand is that these men see how much it their breadrin getting killed, this drugs game could only last so long before you end up another statistic.

The fast money appeal must be strong, but I could be very out of touch with that community so my commentary might be useless.

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby hover11 » November 6th, 2022, 9:04 am

18 murders for the week
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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby paid_influencer » November 6th, 2022, 9:47 am

Dohplaydat wrote:High murder rates are an indication of gang competition, either the money source drying up or growing. Both can instigate rise in murders as both breed competition.

What I can't understand is that these men see how much it their breadrin getting killed, this drugs game could only last so long before you end up another statistic.

The fast money appeal must be strong, but I could be very out of touch with that community so my commentary might be useless.


dais what steward young said. the pnm anti money laundering legislation working and the criminals being starved of cash. crime would go up in the short term

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Re: 2022 Murder Toll Thread

Postby hover11 » November 6th, 2022, 9:54 am

paid_influencer wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:High murder rates are an indication of gang competition, either the money source drying up or growing. Both can instigate rise in murders as both breed competition.

What I can't understand is that these men see how much it their breadrin getting killed, this drugs game could only last so long before you end up another statistic.

The fast money appeal must be strong, but I could be very out of touch with that community so my commentary might be useless.


dais what steward young said. the pnm anti money laundering legislation working and the criminals being starved of cash. crime would go up in the short term
Question,

URP and CEPEP contracts still being awarded to community leaders?Ghost Gangs still very much prevalent?How crime could stop when taxpayers dollars funding crime....

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