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sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
hover11 wrote:Just a question, if this war drag on for 5 years just throwing out a time frame. When will the boiling point with shortage and inflation reach that other countries will have to intervene and pick sides? Before when all this happened everybody was like leave them to sort out their problems, now it actually affecting us.
Dizzy28 wrote:hover11 wrote:Just a question, if this war drag on for 5 years just throwing out a time frame. When will the boiling point with shortage and inflation reach that other countries will have to intervene and pick sides? Before when all this happened everybody was like leave them to sort out their problems, now it actually affecting us.
Lol........there's a tuner that like to go on threads especially on or relating to America and question why the posters in there studying other ppl countries. Now we see how interconnected the world really is.
hover11 wrote:World Bank warns of recession risk due to Ukraine war
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-617 ... B431EBDC67
Nothing to do with lockdowns or closing down worlds economies then and countries printing unlimited money during the Pandemic....sanctions were a plus as well
You don't get sarcasm do you?adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:World Bank warns of recession risk due to Ukraine war
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-617 ... B431EBDC67
Nothing to do with lockdowns or closing down worlds economies then and countries printing unlimited money during the Pandemic....sanctions were a plus as well
In the two weeks since that article was published, you still haven't been able to recognize that the article that you cited is saying the exact opposite of what you just posted.
hover11 wrote:You don't get sarcasm do you?adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:World Bank warns of recession risk due to Ukraine war
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-617 ... B431EBDC67
Nothing to do with lockdowns or closing down worlds economies then and countries printing unlimited money during the Pandemic....sanctions were a plus as well
In the two weeks since that article was published, you still haven't been able to recognize that the article that you cited is saying the exact opposite of what you just posted.
hover11 wrote:World Bank warns of recession risk due to Ukraine war
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-617 ... B431EBDC67
Nothing to do with lockdowns or closing down worlds economies then and countries printing unlimited money during the Pandemic....sanctions were a plus as well
hover11 wrote:Just a question, if this war drag on for 5 years just throwing out a time frame. When will the boiling point with shortage and inflation reach that other countries will have to intervene and pick sides? Before when all this happened everybody was like leave them to sort out their problems, now it actually affecting us.
Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
Which objective would that be? Given the moving goalposts it could very well be just as former President Medvedev indicated - the non existence of Ukraine in two years
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sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
Which objective would that be? Given the moving goalposts it could very well be just as former President Medvedev indicated - the non existence of Ukraine in two years
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there were no moving goalposts. all other 'objectives' are ramblings of other people. EVVVVVERY body else keep saying what russia GOING to do... and making plans for that. and, so far, they ahve only been taking the eastern regions.
Dizzy28 wrote:They tried storming Kiev and failed miserably leaving a trail of war crimes in places like Irpin and Bucha.
The mighty VDV were routed in Hostomel. You tellin me they did all that independent of their initial plan?
Donbass is consolation for failing to implement regime change in the Capital.sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
Which objective would that be? Given the moving goalposts it could very well be just as former President Medvedev indicated - the non existence of Ukraine in two years
Capture.JPG
there were no moving goalposts. all other 'objectives' are ramblings of other people. EVVVVVERY body else keep saying what russia GOING to do... and making plans for that. and, so far, they ahve only been taking the eastern regions.
sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:They tried storming Kiev and failed miserably leaving a trail of war crimes in places like Irpin and Bucha.
The mighty VDV were routed in Hostomel. You tellin me they did all that independent of their initial plan?
Donbass is consolation for failing to implement regime change in the Capital.sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
Which objective would that be? Given the moving goalposts it could very well be just as former President Medvedev indicated - the non existence of Ukraine in two years
Capture.JPG
there were no moving goalposts. all other 'objectives' are ramblings of other people. EVVVVVERY body else keep saying what russia GOING to do... and making plans for that. and, so far, they ahve only been taking the eastern regions.
try storming kiev? with all the old broken, tired vehicles... okay.. if thats what u think invading a country would be the requried vehicles.
went on kiev, drew attention there, then established themselves properly inthe east. its called a 'diversion'
prolly somebdoy will tell me i using the wrong term.. what evs, it worked.
Initial military operations in the Kyiv area began on the very first day of the invasion with the Russian airborne assault on the Hostomel airport, that put 200-400 paratroopers 15 kilometers outside the Ukrainian capital on Feb. 24. This was a high-risk operation that can only be justified if Russia expected the Ukrainian government to collapse. In addition, a large scale column of about four regiments (15,000 to 20,000 personnel) arrived from Belarus along the west bank of the Dnieper. On the eastern side of the Dnieper two division-sized formations (20,000 – 24,000 personnel) arrived on the north-east side of Kyiv through the Chernihiv and Sumy regions. The Ukrainian government responded by arming the local population and rushing in [regular?] forces from western Ukraine. At the same time, Russian forces successfully attacked out of Crimea aiming to capture bridges over the Dnieper and to attack Ukrainian troops north of Mariupol in the rear, encircling the city.
The rapid growth in Ukraine’s combat power meant that the Russian army didn’t have the forces to successfully attack a city of 2.5 million or even to effectively lay siege to it. At first, the siege of Kyiv still served a military purpose by drawing Ukrainian forces away from Donbas, where units of the Russian army and the separatist republics were having success around Mariupol and Izyum. Once the Russian army had consolidated their defense, protecting the flanks of the Donbas operations in the vicinity of Kherson bridgehead and south of Kryvyi Rih and the city of Zaporizhzhia, even this purpose was lost.
Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:They tried storming Kiev and failed miserably leaving a trail of war crimes in places like Irpin and Bucha.
The mighty VDV were routed in Hostomel. You tellin me they did all that independent of their initial plan?
Donbass is consolation for failing to implement regime change in the Capital.sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:The goal was never to defeat,,, if it was so, they would have ballistics the whole country.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:They poking the bear... Using a pawn to poke the bear...
The only bear they could be is a Koala Bear (and yes I know scientifically its not a bear).
116 days and still can't defeat a country with 1/3rd their population and 28 times less land area. Now they resorting to stealing grain and threatening the 3rd world with Famine.
They getting close to their objectives, and the campaign would stop.
Poland and Germany increasing weapons, assault on crimea and the blockade of kaliningrad, (or whatever), is meant to provoke more reaction... And with that extend the war effort...
Y? So Northrup grummen coukd sell more guns and bombs..
Which objective would that be? Given the moving goalposts it could very well be just as former President Medvedev indicated - the non existence of Ukraine in two years
Capture.JPG
there were no moving goalposts. all other 'objectives' are ramblings of other people. EVVVVVERY body else keep saying what russia GOING to do... and making plans for that. and, so far, they ahve only been taking the eastern regions.
try storming kiev? with all the old broken, tired vehicles... okay.. if thats what u think invading a country would be the requried vehicles.
went on kiev, drew attention there, then established themselves properly inthe east. its called a 'diversion'
prolly somebdoy will tell me i using the wrong term.. what evs, it worked.
You speak as someone who only watches Youtube conspiracy videos. As per the Harvard Kennedy School for International Relations -Initial military operations in the Kyiv area began on the very first day of the invasion with the Russian airborne assault on the Hostomel airport, that put 200-400 paratroopers 15 kilometers outside the Ukrainian capital on Feb. 24. This was a high-risk operation that can only be justified if Russia expected the Ukrainian government to collapse. In addition, a large scale column of about four regiments (15,000 to 20,000 personnel) arrived from Belarus along the west bank of the Dnieper. On the eastern side of the Dnieper two division-sized formations (20,000 – 24,000 personnel) arrived on the north-east side of Kyiv through the Chernihiv and Sumy regions. The Ukrainian government responded by arming the local population and rushing in [regular?] forces from western Ukraine. At the same time, Russian forces successfully attacked out of Crimea aiming to capture bridges over the Dnieper and to attack Ukrainian troops north of Mariupol in the rear, encircling the city.
The rapid growth in Ukraine’s combat power meant that the Russian army didn’t have the forces to successfully attack a city of 2.5 million or even to effectively lay siege to it. At first, the siege of Kyiv still served a military purpose by drawing Ukrainian forces away from Donbas, where units of the Russian army and the separatist republics were having success around Mariupol and Izyum. Once the Russian army had consolidated their defense, protecting the flanks of the Donbas operations in the vicinity of Kherson bridgehead and south of Kryvyi Rih and the city of Zaporizhzhia, even this purpose was lost.
You can believe that almost 50,000 Ruskies and thousand of pieces of armour (top end systems by Russian standards were used in the North including the Pantsir so I'm not sure where your claim of broken equipment comes from) were a mere diversion if you want to but the capture was Kiev was a major goal that did not materialize.
But at least Russia captured Severdonetsk today as Ukraine ordered a retreat. This effectively gives them all of the Luhansk.
hover11 wrote:They playing checkers while he playing chess.... everything he does is calculated
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