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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 6th, 2023, 1:55 pm

Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.

Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.


All part of the spring offensive

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 6th, 2023, 1:57 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
bluefete wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Apparently thr spring offensive didn't mean the season, but the dam supplying cooling water to the nuclear power plant.


Russia blows up dam
Dam is the source of fresh water for Crimea
Crimean Canal is currently flowing in the reverse direction
Crimea goes dry in a few months

Putin...all according to plan!!


That dam could go either way. If Crimea is occupied by Russia,, why would they blow it up?

But then this is war, and sometimes nothing makes sense.


Russia expected a 3 day capitulation of the entire Ukraine. It's been well over a year and not only have they not captured Kiev they also lack control over the entirety of any of the four oblasts they claimed. The most likely scenario from here on in is a frozen conflict and Russia would just be on a scorched earth policy as retribution to the Ukrainian people who have resisted them thus far. Crimea is just collateral.
U forgot elenski was resdy to negotiate with russia in February or March last year, until boris johnson visited kiev and elenski grew some balls but shrunk his brains.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » June 6th, 2023, 1:59 pm

sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.

Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.


All part of the spring offensive


Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created

They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 6th, 2023, 4:48 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.

Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.


All part of the spring offensive


Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created

They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.

The crimeans hate their Russian over lords.

This is plausible to nato supporters.





With russia using precision air strikes there is no need to target the dam.
The potential loss of cooling to the power plant and water supply to crimea is enough benefit to keep it.
The plant is under Russian control, and can contaminate Russia with easterly winds. So Russia is more at risk.
It just made Russian logistics worse.


It doesn't give Russia enough benefit, to justify blowing it up.

Ukraine has more to gain against Russia by blowing it

We know they arent above that cause they blew up the crimea bridge... Which they say is still 'their' territory. But still blew it up.






Ukraine is run by mad people.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 6th, 2023, 5:05 pm

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.

Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.


All part of the spring offensive


Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created

They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.
The crimeans hate their Russian over lords.
This is plausible to nato supporters.
With russia using precision air strikes there is no need to target the dam.
The potential loss of cooling to the power plant and water supply to crimea is enough benefit to keep it.

The plant is under Russian control, and can contaminate Russia with easterly winds. So Russia is more at risk.

It just made Russian logistics worse.
It doesn't give Russia enough benefit, to justify blowing it up.
Ukraine has more to gain against Russia by blowing it
We know they arent above that cause they blew up the crimea bridge... Which they say is still 'their' territory. But still blew it up.
Ukraine is run by mad people.


Huh!? How can Russia be contaminated by fallout from a Ukrainian nuclear plant because of easterly winds?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » June 6th, 2023, 8:07 pm

The Crimea Bridge is a legitimate military target. It's the transport link for the Russian southern forces especially before they took all of Ukraine's Azov coast. We have all seen videos of trains full of tanks, IFVs and APCs crossing the Kerch.

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.

Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.


All part of the spring offensive


Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created

They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.

The crimeans hate their Russian over lords.

This is plausible to nato supporters.





With russia using precision air strikes there is no need to target the dam.
The potential loss of cooling to the power plant and water supply to crimea is enough benefit to keep it.
The plant is under Russian control, and can contaminate Russia with easterly winds. So Russia is more at risk.
It just made Russian logistics worse.


It doesn't give Russia enough benefit, to justify blowing it up.

Ukraine has more to gain against Russia by blowing it

We know they arent above that cause they blew up the crimea bridge... Which they say is still 'their' territory. But still blew it up.






Ukraine is run by mad people.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 6th, 2023, 9:38 pm

Snd being s supply route, kiev had no supply systems set up to keep crimea operating with out the bridge.

They had no intention of actually retaking crimea, merely to terrorize the occupants.



West winds into Russia.... Typo.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 7th, 2023, 6:41 am

sMASH wrote:Snd being s supply route, kiev had no supply systems set up to keep crimea operating with out the bridge.

They had no intention of actually retaking crimea, merely to terrorize the occupants.



West winds into Russia.... Typo.
Typo? No. You just never knew what easterly means. You don't know the difference between a car and a mango. And you don't know what you're talking about in this thread - at all.

And yet you are one of the most prolific posters on tuner.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 7th, 2023, 11:19 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Snd being s supply route, kiev had no supply systems set up to keep crimea operating with out the bridge.

They had no intention of actually retaking crimea, merely to terrorize the occupants.



West winds into Russia.... Typo.
Typo? No. You just never knew what easterly means. You don't know the difference between a car and a mango. And you don't know what you're talking about in this thread - at all.

And yet you are one of the most prolific posters on tuner.
Noted.
Ask a mod to review my credentials to be a poster

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » June 7th, 2023, 12:09 pm

So guys did Putin miscalculate?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby VexXx Dogg » June 7th, 2023, 12:21 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:So guys did Putin miscalculate?

Understatement of the decade (* so far)

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 7th, 2023, 8:31 pm

Who has the land?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » June 8th, 2023, 10:31 pm

this was posted right

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1665726445493026819

"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda"

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » June 9th, 2023, 10:09 am

sMASH wrote:Who has the land?


So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 9th, 2023, 11:52 am

paid_influencer wrote:this was posted right

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1665726445493026819

"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda"
"reenforce Russian propaganda".

Translation : proves Russia right... Again

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 9th, 2023, 11:56 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Who has the land?


So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?


Let me sound like adnj a bit:

Wrong question.
If some colonies of England decide to secede from England, voted on it, and had the assistance snd protection of France, should that colony still be considered part of England, or some new union of states

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » June 9th, 2023, 12:07 pm

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Who has the land?


So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?


Let me sound like adnj a bit:

Wrong question.
If some colonies of England decide to secede from England, voted on it, and had the assistance snd protection of France, should that colony still be considered part of England, or some new union of states


Ukraine is not a colony of anyone though, same as Trinidad so my comparison still holds.
The pre 2014 border of Ukraine is a sovereign country recognized by the UN

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 9th, 2023, 12:08 pm

Russia's 'Smoking Gun' on Ukraine Dam Collapse


On May 30, a week before the dam's collapse, the Russian government approved a law aimed at "ensuring the safety of hydraulic structures" in the Ukrainian regions it proclaimed to have annexed in September 2022—the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia.

The legislation states that until January 1, 2028, investigations into accidents at hydro-technical structures that occurred as a result of military operations, sabotage and terrorist activities are prohibited. The decree was signed by Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and came into effect on the day it was published.

The Soviet-era dam is part of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Station in southern Ukraine on the Dnieper River. It was breached in the early hours of June 6, unleashing water on swaths of land as a long-anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive to take back the seized territories kicked off.

Russia maintains that it wasn't behind its collapse and has accused Ukraine of blowing up the dam to distract attention from a "faltering" counteroffensive. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky accused Russian forces of blowing up the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Station from inside the facility as part of a "terrorist attack."

Mounting evidence increasingly points to Russian involvement in the attack, Newsweek has been told.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-smoking ... se-1805546

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » June 9th, 2023, 12:11 pm

Smash you probably in glee...all those destroyed and damaged Bradleys, Maxxis MRAPs and the one damaged Leopard must make a tankies heart flutter!!

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 9th, 2023, 5:59 pm

Pretty sure, u will hear its 'pro Ukraine forces' from the white house in the next couple weeks.
Prolly go on a stamp...

Hope russia csn keep cooling to the power plant in the meanwhile

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » June 9th, 2023, 6:58 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Who has the land?


So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?


this is a good idea

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 9th, 2023, 9:00 pm

Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 9th, 2023, 9:10 pm

sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 10th, 2023, 7:05 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
Establishment brick

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 10th, 2023, 8:25 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
Establishment brick


You are refering to established facts?

Let's establish a few here:

Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.

Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw

I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 10th, 2023, 9:31 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... n-donetsk/


Ukraine fired himmars into the dam to dee if they could target it, and they were successful, and would leave destroying the dam as a last resort.

As reported in the Washington post.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 10th, 2023, 9:33 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
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You are refering to established facts?

Let's establish a few here:

Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.

Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw

I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..

The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 10th, 2023, 11:24 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
Establishment brick


You are refering to established facts?

Let's establish a few here:

Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.

Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw

I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..

The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Really? Rebuild the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.

Going right back to the 5 years, US$1 billion rebuild estimate that doesn't fit into the smash-reality. That never made it in. Running behind the who destroyed the damn is just your version of obfuscation.

I don't need you to agree with me. I just know that you don't.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » June 10th, 2023, 11:37 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
Establishment brick


You are refering to established facts?

Let's establish a few here:

Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.

Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw

I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..

The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Really? Rebuilt the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.

Going right back to the 5 years, US$1 billion rebuild estimate that doesn't fit into the smash-reality. That never made it in. Running behind the who destroyed the damn is just your version of obfuscation.

I don't need you to agree with me. I just know that you don't.
Wow, Ukraine really knows how to f* sheit up.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » June 10th, 2023, 11:51 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.

Time enough to repair 5he damn.


Issue now is supply to crimea.

Such a loser!
Establishment brick


You are refering to established facts?

Let's establish a few here:

Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.

Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw

I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..

The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Really? Rebuilt the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.

Going right back to the 5 years, US$1 billion rebuild estimate that doesn't fit into the smash-reality. That never made it in. Running behind the who destroyed the damn is just your version of obfuscation.

I don't need you to agree with me. I just know that you don't.
Wow, Ukraine really knows how to f* sheit up.


Ukraine really seems to know how to f-up the Russian army. 18 months is a long time for a 6 week military operation. But you believe the dam will be rebuilt in a few months so time must be relative.

Ukraine really seems to know how to f-up smash, too. Everyday on tuner posting like it's a Russian Telegram channel.

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