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U forgot elenski was resdy to negotiate with russia in February or March last year, until boris johnson visited kiev and elenski grew some balls but shrunk his brains.Dizzy28 wrote:bluefete wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Apparently thr spring offensive didn't mean the season, but the dam supplying cooling water to the nuclear power plant.
Russia blows up dam
Dam is the source of fresh water for Crimea
Crimean Canal is currently flowing in the reverse direction
Crimea goes dry in a few months
Putin...all according to plan!!
That dam could go either way. If Crimea is occupied by Russia,, why would they blow it up?
But then this is war, and sometimes nothing makes sense.
Russia expected a 3 day capitulation of the entire Ukraine. It's been well over a year and not only have they not captured Kiev they also lack control over the entirety of any of the four oblasts they claimed. The most likely scenario from here on in is a frozen conflict and Russia would just be on a scorched earth policy as retribution to the Ukrainian people who have resisted them thus far. Crimea is just collateral.
sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.
Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.
All part of the spring offensive
Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.
Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.
All part of the spring offensive
Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created
They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
sMASH wrote:Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.
Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.
All part of the spring offensive
Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created
They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
The crimeans hate their Russian over lords.
This is plausible to nato supporters.
With russia using precision air strikes there is no need to target the dam.
The potential loss of cooling to the power plant and water supply to crimea is enough benefit to keep it.
The plant is under Russian control, and can contaminate Russia with easterly winds. So Russia is more at risk.
It just made Russian logistics worse.
It doesn't give Russia enough benefit, to justify blowing it up.
Ukraine has more to gain against Russia by blowing it
We know they arent above that cause they blew up the crimea bridge... Which they say is still 'their' territory. But still blew it up.
Ukraine is run by mad people.
sMASH wrote:Any minute now, the crimea resistance army ginna boot out Russia for invading their land, and reinstall it into Ukraine.Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy doing the nato thing of explaining why sumtung will hurt Russia then accusing them of don't it.
Mist likely is pro Ukrainian forces blew it up. Like the crimea bridge, the Nordstrom pipeline, the bolgorode and Moscow attacks.
All part of the spring offensive
Russia doesn't care about Crimeans. They care about their bases
However the military benefit to Russia by blowing up the dam is tremendous
The dam contained a road that could be used by Ukraine force and its no longer there
Other potential crossings for the offensive washed away
Large muddy terrain now created
They have just made Kherson more difficult to retake
The crimeans hate their Russian over lords.
This is plausible to nato supporters.
With russia using precision air strikes there is no need to target the dam.
The potential loss of cooling to the power plant and water supply to crimea is enough benefit to keep it.
The plant is under Russian control, and can contaminate Russia with easterly winds. So Russia is more at risk.
It just made Russian logistics worse.
It doesn't give Russia enough benefit, to justify blowing it up.
Ukraine has more to gain against Russia by blowing it
We know they arent above that cause they blew up the crimea bridge... Which they say is still 'their' territory. But still blew it up.
Ukraine is run by mad people.
Typo? No. You just never knew what easterly means. You don't know the difference between a car and a mango. And you don't know what you're talking about in this thread - at all.sMASH wrote:Snd being s supply route, kiev had no supply systems set up to keep crimea operating with out the bridge.
They had no intention of actually retaking crimea, merely to terrorize the occupants.
West winds into Russia.... Typo.
Noted.adnj wrote:Typo? No. You just never knew what easterly means. You don't know the difference between a car and a mango. And you don't know what you're talking about in this thread - at all.sMASH wrote:Snd being s supply route, kiev had no supply systems set up to keep crimea operating with out the bridge.
They had no intention of actually retaking crimea, merely to terrorize the occupants.
West winds into Russia.... Typo.
And yet you are one of the most prolific posters on tuner.
SuperiorMan wrote:So guys did Putin miscalculate?
sMASH wrote:Who has the land?
"reenforce Russian propaganda".paid_influencer wrote:this was posted right
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1665726445493026819
"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda"
Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Who has the land?
So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?
sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Who has the land?
So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?
Let me sound like adnj a bit:
Wrong question.
If some colonies of England decide to secede from England, voted on it, and had the assistance snd protection of France, should that colony still be considered part of England, or some new union of states
Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Who has the land?
So if Venezuela, a much larger and more powerful neighbour of Trinidad decides to invade and in a few days seizes all of south Trinidad up to the Caroni River by your logic it thus becomes Venezuela?
sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
sMASH wrote:Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
You are refering to established facts?
Let's establish a few here:
Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.
Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw
I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
Really? Rebuild the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.sMASH wrote:Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
You are refering to established facts?
Let's establish a few here:
Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.
Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw
I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Wow, Ukraine really knows how to f* sheit up.adnj wrote:Really? Rebuilt the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.sMASH wrote:Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
You are refering to established facts?
Let's establish a few here:
Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.
Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw
I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Going right back to the 5 years, US$1 billion rebuild estimate that doesn't fit into the smash-reality. That never made it in. Running behind the who destroyed the damn is just your version of obfuscation.
I don't need you to agree with me. I just know that you don't.
sMASH wrote:Wow, Ukraine really knows how to f* sheit up.adnj wrote:Really? Rebuilt the collapsed section? Smashmouth just doesn't understand.sMASH wrote:Bro, they dont have to rebuild the volume of the reservoir, just replace the damaged section of the concrete structure that holds the water in..adnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Establishment brickadnj wrote:sMASH wrote:Wion now say, the damn too low yo supply water to the plant, but on site water at the plant is sufficient for months.
Time enough to repair 5he damn.
Issue now is supply to crimea.
Such a loser!
You are refering to established facts?
Let's establish a few here:
Kakhovka Reservoir is about half the size of the island of Trinidad.
Preliminary estimates for dam completion are 5 years and US$ 1 billion...
https://t.me/shtab_kakhovska_hes/77?fbc ... DUL7_ulBzw
I can't understand how you can believe that a dam that retains 5 trillion gallons of water can be rebuilt in a few months; during a war; when either side is under enemy control. And then post as if you actually know anything about the topic.
The water level will refill as time goes by... Unless Ukraine strikes it again..
Going right back to the 5 years, US$1 billion rebuild estimate that doesn't fit into the smash-reality. That never made it in. Running behind the who destroyed the damn is just your version of obfuscation.
I don't need you to agree with me. I just know that you don't.
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