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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 28th, 2023, 9:00 pm

Italy was a buyer of nearly 10% of Russia's total gas exports.


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Since Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine almost a year ago, Italy and other European countries have sought to replace Russian gas with energy supplies from North Africa and other sources.

Saturday’s agreement was signed by Libya’s National Oil Corp. and Italy’s Eni. The two companies said they will invest $8 billion in gas development, as well as in solar power and carbon capture, Reuters reported.


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 29th, 2023, 8:27 am

Czechia has elected a pro Ukraine President over a pro Russian billionaire. Third highest turnout ever for an election.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 29th, 2023, 12:47 pm

Pay Attention To This: Note the date.

Unfortunately, it is a paid subscription so I can only get the headlines:

Putin aims to wipe us off the map, says Ukraine PM

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Arseniy Yatsenyuk fears Putin will not stop until he controls the whole country (Igor Golovniov/ZUMA Wire)

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1 Mar 2015 — “Putin wages a war against the free world and Ukraine has become a battlefield,” said Yatsenyuk. “His goal is to eliminate Ukraine, ...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 29th, 2023, 12:54 pm

Then almost 7 years later:

Vladimir Putin Wants to Wipe Ukraine From the Map, Ambassador Warns
Vadym Prystaiko says Putin "just doesn't want us to exist."
Ambassador urges U.S. to say "we are not afraid of escalation"
"At some point, we have to resolve this."
BY DAVID BRENNAN ON 12/16/21 AT 5:00 AM EST


Russian President Vladimir Putin will continue a cycle of aggression until a tougher Western response deters him, warned Kyiv's ambassador to the U.K., as tens of thousands of Russian troops sit along Ukraine's borders threatening a full-scale invasion.

Ambassador Vadym Prystaiko—who formerly served as ambassador to Canada and NATO, as well as Ukraine's foreign minister—told Newsweek in an interview at the embassy in London that Putin is resolute in his desire to subjugate Ukraine

"He just doesn't want us to exist," Prystaiko said. "He wants one thing: Ukraine to cease existing. You can't give it to him. You can't go half way."


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 29th, 2023, 12:55 pm

maj. tom wrote:^bypass paywall
https://archive.is/HYEfh


Thanks bro. I am not so advanced with the technology. Appreciated.

Talk about looking into the future. That PM had incredible foresight.

"Likening Ukraine’s position to that of Britain during the Second World War, Yatsenyuk said the West should brace for a “long-lasting” conflict in his country that could spill over into the EU if left unconfined."

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby maj. tom » January 29th, 2023, 1:34 pm

The same way the Austrian-Hungary Empire dragged Europe into an eventual conflict called WWI over the Balkan region questions and conflict, the same way this is happening with Ukraine and Russia. The stage is being set, the pieces are slowly moving and the world superpowers are shifting. The human bloodthirsty violent monkey brain is once again restless after more than 70 years of world peace.

I also believe that China has very secret but heavy investment somewhere in this story and will use it as a means of consolidating more nationalism power, then one day Taiwan will wake up to something new.

On the other side of the world, since 9/11, USA is slowly going in another direction of political self-destruction. Did you know that one objective of bin Laden's was that USA would use monies for social and healthcare programs that keeps a nation strong, and instead pour it into their militarized industrial complex and create vast wealthy corrupt individuals who control the country's politics. While the common people suffered from their decisions which would lead to a very polarized political divide? Which has happened and is happening. The ridiculousness of USA politics since 2016 is reaching unknown-before heights of racism, hatred and stupidity and half of voters believing that a party needs to "be cruel and hurt the right people." You know bin Laden already won?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 29th, 2023, 2:53 pm

Ukraine can sign terms to end this war, but prefer to keep begging fur arms and incurring devastation.



They will want to hit crimea, or as they say the 'Russian occupied crmean peninsula' but crimea a since the election haven't really wanted to go back to Ukrainian rule.




Russia has its new market, even if at lower margins, snd Europe will wean off, even if they pay more... Just pass it onto the citizens.




Nothing majorly new to report, just Russia defending the ethnic Russian eastern regions, from Ukraine aggression.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 29th, 2023, 2:55 pm

Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 29th, 2023, 3:20 pm

US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 29th, 2023, 4:38 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out

M1 A3 can burn just about anything: diesel, kerosene, gasoline, aviation fuel, cooking oil, alcohol, etc. It's also maintenance sensitive and very expensive.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 29th, 2023, 7:15 pm

maj. tom wrote:The same way the Austrian-Hungary Empire dragged Europe into an eventual conflict called WWI over the Balkan region questions and conflict, the same way this is happening with Ukraine and Russia. The stage is being set, the pieces are slowly moving and the world superpowers are shifting. The human bloodthirsty violent monkey brain is once again restless after more than 70 years of world peace.

I also believe that China has very secret but heavy investment somewhere in this story and will use it as a means of consolidating more nationalism power, then one day Taiwan will wake up to something new.

On the other side of the world, since 9/11, USA is slowly going in another direction of political self-destruction. Did you know that one objective of bin Laden's was that USA would use monies for social and healthcare programs that keeps a nation strong, and instead pour it into their militarized industrial complex and create vast wealthy corrupt individuals who control the country's politics. While the common people suffered from their decisions which would lead to a very polarized political divide? Which has happened and is happening. The ridiculousness of USA politics since 2016 is reaching unknown-before heights of racism, hatred and stupidity and half of voters believing that a party needs to "be cruel and hurt the right people." You know bin Laden already won?


Those who forget the past are condemned to re-live it (Jorge Santayana).

This is spot on.

Most people do not know that the very last plane to leave US airspace, before all flights were grounded during 9/11, carried Bin Laden's family to Saudi Arabia, with the full blessing of the US government.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 29th, 2023, 7:34 pm

OBL had five wives and children in the twenties. Saying they flew his family out isn't the same as saying they flew your or my family out.

He was also one of 54 children himself. Family is to be used loosely there

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 29th, 2023, 9:11 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:OBL had five wives and children in the twenties. Saying they flew his family out isn't the same as saying they flew your or my family out.

He was also one of 54 children himself. Family is to be used loosely there


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 7:17 am

Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out
Jet fuel is Double filtered pitch oil.

The ONLY additional logistics for thst support is they need to supply a lot more tankers of that compared to diesel.
... Only the quantity.

All they hadda to is make a few more spot sales for ocean tankers, and rent a few road tankers to send it to the war zones.


Thats not hard to do, cause spot sales in Trinidad happened alll the time. From methanol to bunker oil.

We had to modify operations to accommodate spot sales allll the time. Just hope no plants go down, to make up the quota for the scheduled boats. Sometimes the later boats got pushed back a few days csuse there wouldnt be enough in time.



One cargo ship of jet fuel might be us$40m. A whole ship... Just the price of a few tanks.


Its not hard to do, they just don't want to do it.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 7:30 am

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out
Jet fuel is Double filtered pitch oil.

The ONLY additional logistics for thst support is they need to supply a lot more tankers of that compared to diesel.
... Only the quantity.

All they hadda to is make a few more spot sales for ocean tankers, and rent a few road tankers to send it to the war zones.


Thats not hard to do, cause spot sales in Trinidad happened alll the time. From methanol to bunker oil.

We had to modify operations to accommodate spot sales allll the time. Just hope no plants go down, to make up the quota for the scheduled boats. Sometimes the later boats got pushed back a few days csuse there wouldnt be enough in time.



One cargo ship of jet fuel might be us$40m. A whole ship... Just the price of a few tanks.


Its not hard to do, they just don't want to do it.
None of what you propose matters. The Abrams turbine can use nearly any liquid hydrocarbon as fuel.

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M1 A3 can burn just about anything: diesel, kerosene, gasoline, aviation fuel, cooking oil, alcohol, etc. It's also maintenance sensitive and very expensive.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 7:44 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out
Jet fuel is Double filtered pitch oil.

The ONLY additional logistics for thst support is they need to supply a lot more tankers of that compared to diesel.
... Only the quantity.

All they hadda to is make a few more spot sales for ocean tankers, and rent a few road tankers to send it to the war zones.


Thats not hard to do, cause spot sales in Trinidad happened alll the time. From methanol to bunker oil.

We had to modify operations to accommodate spot sales allll the time. Just hope no plants go down, to make up the quota for the scheduled boats. Sometimes the later boats got pushed back a few days csuse there wouldnt be enough in time.



One cargo ship of jet fuel might be us$40m. A whole ship... Just the price of a few tanks.


Its not hard to do, they just don't want to do it.
None of what you propose matters. The Abrams turbine can use nearly any liquid hydrocarbon as fuel.

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M1 A3 can burn just about anything: diesel, kerosene, gasoline, aviation fuel, cooking oil, alcohol, etc. It's also maintenance sensitive and very expensive.
What I was speaking about is the logistics of the fuel accommodation. What ur taking about is changing the fuel injection nozzle to suit the different fuels.

Take ur Troll meds and try again.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 7:56 am

Just because it's CAN burn different fuels doesn't mean it should burn different fuels.

When moving from a lighter fraction to heavier fractions u tend to get more soot build up. The temperature profile tends to increase as well. The power out put may be lower as well due to the different fuel.

All those contribute to lowering the total output power available to the machine.
As much as 20%reduction.

Thst will limit the maneuverability of the vehicle somewhat and thus make it a sitting duck on the battle feild, compared to its full potential.




It makes no sense sending it crippled to get destroyed and lose its perfect reputation.







Try to copy and paste a Lil intelleigence instead of just regurgitating talking points.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 7:59 am

Adnj does move like ah man dat does read the brochure and say 'yeah, I know bout car'.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 8:00 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out
Jet fuel is Double filtered pitch oil.

The ONLY additional logistics for thst support is they need to supply a lot more tankers of that compared to diesel.
... Only the quantity.

All they hadda to is make a few more spot sales for ocean tankers, and rent a few road tankers to send it to the war zones.


Thats not hard to do, cause spot sales in Trinidad happened alll the time. From methanol to bunker oil.

We had to modify operations to accommodate spot sales allll the time. Just hope no plants go down, to make up the quota for the scheduled boats. Sometimes the later boats got pushed back a few days csuse there wouldnt be enough in time.



One cargo ship of jet fuel might be us$40m. A whole ship... Just the price of a few tanks.


Its not hard to do, they just don't want to do it.
None of what you propose matters. The Abrams turbine can use nearly any liquid hydrocarbon as fuel.

Repost:

M1 A3 can burn just about anything: diesel, kerosene, gasoline, aviation fuel, cooking oil, alcohol, etc. It's also maintenance sensitive and very expensive.
What I was speaking about is the logistics of the fuel accommodation. What ur taking about is changing the fuel injection nozzle to suit the different fuels.

Take ur Troll meds and try again.

You just don't get it, Coalemus. The tank burns almost anything without modification.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 9:32 am

January 30, 2023

Ukraine war to accelerate shift to clean energy, BP says

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LONDON, Jan 30 (Reuters) - Russia's war in Ukraine is expected to weigh on long-term energy demand and accelerate the world's shift to renewables and low-carbon power as countries boost domestic energy supplies, BP (BP.L) said in a report on Monday.

In its benchmark 2023 Energy Outlook, BP Plc said the Ukraine war will slow global economic activity by 2035 by around 3% compared with last year's forecast due to higher food and energy prices as well as reduced trade activity.

BP lowered its oil and gas demand forecast in 2035 by 5% and 6%, respectively, under its central forecast scenario that is based on governments' current energy transition plans. The changes are focused mostly in Europe and Asia which rely heavily on energy imports, BP said.

Under its three scenarios, global energy demand peaks between the late 2020s and 2035, according to BP, whose Chief Executive Bernard Looney aims to rapidly grow the company's renewables business and slash oil and gas output by 2030.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 023-01-30/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby timelapse » January 30th, 2023, 9:42 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:US tanks use jet A1 fuel.
They require logistics only the US can probably support.

Had they been diesel M1s would have been pouring into Poland
sMASH wrote:Those 30 tanks Ukraine got, will step up the activities, but eventually get taken out.


If Ukraine gets the 300 tanks they asked for, thst will be a game changer.


USA has over 6000 tanks... They just pussyfooting and dragging this out
Jet fuel is Double filtered pitch oil.

The ONLY additional logistics for thst support is they need to supply a lot more tankers of that compared to diesel.
... Only the quantity.

All they hadda to is make a few more spot sales for ocean tankers, and rent a few road tankers to send it to the war zones.


Thats not hard to do, cause spot sales in Trinidad happened alll the time. From methanol to bunker oil.

We had to modify operations to accommodate spot sales allll the time. Just hope no plants go down, to make up the quota for the scheduled boats. Sometimes the later boats got pushed back a few days csuse there wouldnt be enough in time.



One cargo ship of jet fuel might be us$40m. A whole ship... Just the price of a few tanks.


Its not hard to do, they just don't want to do it.
None of what you propose matters. The Abrams turbine can use nearly any liquid hydrocarbon as fuel.

Repost:

M1 A3 can burn just about anything: diesel, kerosene, gasoline, aviation fuel, cooking oil, alcohol, etc. It's also maintenance sensitive and very expensive.
What I was speaking about is the logistics of the fuel accommodation. What ur taking about is changing the fuel injection nozzle to suit the different fuels.

Take ur Troll meds and try again.

You just don't get it, Coalemus. The tank burns almost anything without modification.
Nazi ovens could be used to burn Jews.That doesn't mean that they should have

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 30th, 2023, 5:21 pm

Guess what, tight wing sources say the tanks to be sent to Ukraine is new tanks that are being built now.

So not jepardising the present stock piles.



And, that would reach by late this year, or even next.

Lol.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 30th, 2023, 6:00 pm

sMASH wrote:Guess what, tight wing sources say the tanks to be sent to Ukraine is new tanks that are being built now.

So not jepardising the present stock piles.



And, that would reach by late this year, or even next.

Lol.
Currently the M1 Abrams main battle tank is no longer in operational service with the US military and a number of these tanks were upgraded to the M1A2 standard. US Army has over 2 300 of these tanks in reserve storage. The original M1 was never exported.

The Biden administration will send 31 M1A1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine as the country prepares for a fresh Russian offensive in the coming months.


http://www.military-today.com/tanks/m1_abrams.htm

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August 9, 2019

The Army is just beginning to receive the first of the latest Abrams upgrade, the System Enhancement Package Version 3 (SEPv3), with additional upgrades in development. Instead of searching for the elusive Holy Grail of ultralight armor or laser weapons, technologies that would justify building a brand new tank, the Army would be best served by aggressively pursuing a major redesign and improvement program for the Abrams, an M1A3.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 9:46 am

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MgOp15BE-Pg ... IECMiOmarE

Ukrainians want help, but not that kind of help...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby timelapse » January 31st, 2023, 11:23 am

Maybe the men should sit this one out and let the superior feminists take charge

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 31st, 2023, 11:36 am

Or offer bounties for tanks
Time to hunt...
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 31st, 2023, 11:38 am

The shell that is about to be fired says, "Go to hell PUTLER"

Russia's war in Ukraine backfired by uniting NATO, even as cracks emerged over nearly a year of fighting

Jan 30, 2023

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NATO has, of course, had its problems in the past. A few years before Russia invaded Ukraine, for instance, French President Emmanuel Macron sharply criticized NATO, arguing the 63-year-old military alliance was experiencing "brain death" amid instability triggered by then-President Donald Trump.

But over the past 11 months since Russia launched its unprovoked assault on its neighbor, the alliance has largely shown itself to be strong, influential, and unified. NATO countries have provided billions of dollars in security assistance that has helped Ukraine defend itself, and the alliance even appears to be on the verge of expanding, one of Moscow's worst fears.

"A very unexpected consequence of this war has been the resurrection of NATO. My president was saying two years ago that NATO is brain dead. I think he was right at the time. It's not anymore the case, especially when you see that countries like Finland and Sweden, which were not members during the Cold War, have requested to join NATO," Gérard Araud, the former French ambassador to the US and the United Nations, told Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russias ... ged-2023-1

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