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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby RBphoto » December 27th, 2022, 9:55 am

Can we all just agree that Russia and Ukraine are both trash nations of corrupt oligarchs and that Ukraine is a racist country full of neo Nazi groups that deserved to get invaded for trying to Join NATO which was literally formed to be a counter to Russian power?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » December 27th, 2022, 2:52 pm

No
RBphoto wrote:Can we all just agree that Russia and Ukraine are both trash nations of corrupt oligarchs and that Ukraine is a racist country full of neo Nazi groups that deserved to get invaded for trying to Join NATO which was literally formed to be a counter to Russian power?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » December 27th, 2022, 4:36 pm

RBphoto wrote:Can we all just agree that Russia and Ukraine are both trash nations of corrupt oligarchs and that Ukraine is a racist country full of neo Nazi groups that deserved to get invaded for trying to Join NATO which was literally formed to be a counter to Russian power?


yes

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 27th, 2022, 6:11 pm

RBphoto wrote:Can we all just agree that Russia and Ukraine are both trash nations of corrupt oligarchs and that Ukraine is a racist country full of neo Nazi groups that deserved to get invaded for trying to Join NATO which was literally formed to be a counter to Russian power?


A little background is sorely needed for the misinformed here.

The USSR was formed after occupying fourteen Eurasian nations. NATO was formed to counter USSR aggression in Europe after the USSR refused to cede control of the five European nations that they occupied post-WWII.

There are currently fourteen former Soviet republics and Soviet-aligned republics that have joined NATO in the post-Cold War era.

Hmm. I wonder why?

Ukraine formally applied to NATO nearly twenty years ago. Ukraine was gently refused in 2008. Ukraine has sought European Common market participant staus, EU membership and NATO membership in 2022. They will very likely be granted all of them.

Hmm. I wonder why?

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During NATO's 2008 summit in Bucharest, Romania, the issue was discussed and, after opposition from France and Germany, a decision was made to offer neither Ukraine nor Georgia a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) — essentially a path for Ukraine to receive membership — at that moment. Vague promises of NATO membership in the future were made, but the United States later appeared to drop its support for NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. Russia's brief war with Georgia in August 2008 helped underscore the decision's importance, but NATO and Ukraine held further talks in December. Again, however, no specific MAP was announced.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... o-said-no/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » December 27th, 2022, 10:33 pm

Putin trolling at this point !!
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 28th, 2022, 8:37 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Putin trolling at this point !!


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 28th, 2022, 8:47 am

Russo-Ukraine War energy crisis in Germany? Not so much.

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There have been growing signs that the German economy could stave off the worst of an economic downturn triggered by a plunge in energy supply from Russia after the Ukraine invasion.

Inflation slowed slightly to 11.3% in November from a high of 11.6% the month prior as energy prices eased. The German government has predicted the economy will grow by 1.4% this year and contract by 0.4% next year.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby VexXx Dogg » December 28th, 2022, 9:11 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64101437


Oligarchs dropping like dollar bills at a strip club

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » December 28th, 2022, 10:50 am

If I was a Russian billionaire this is the house I buying
VexXx Dogg wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64101437


Oligarchs dropping like dollar bills at a strip club
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » December 28th, 2022, 11:08 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Putin trolling at this point !!IMG_20221227_223237.jpg


One ring to rule them all.

Gotta say these cheesiness of this is comical. Can't wait to see the Russia Z tracksuits next

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » December 28th, 2022, 11:09 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64101437


Oligarchs dropping like dollar bills at a strip club


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Ru ... ery_deaths

22 suspected KGB assassinations.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby matr1x » December 28th, 2022, 3:15 pm

Ukraine is nothing more than an ammo dump for a conflict it pushed

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby VexXx Dogg » December 28th, 2022, 3:39 pm

adnj wrote:Image



Most bears caught in traps are usually minding their own business.

This bear took it upon himself to storm someone else's party and vex that he eh getting cake and icecream

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 29th, 2022, 3:06 pm

sMASH wrote:they getting gas, but at what costs? obviously, the citizen will pay the difference, and the politicians will just bump their salaries.

thought green energy supposed to save europe from russia, and climate change.
had to lock in a 15 year contract, guess not yet...

"they'll be fine"


They ARE fine - more European money to buy ammo for Ukraine.

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Gas prices bounced further off the 10-month low on Thursday to reach €85.50 per megawatt hour.

Europe has several months of domestic heating demand ahead, and some industry bosses believe energy shortages could also be a problem next winter. However, traders have also had to weigh the effects of recessions expected in several big European economies, which could dent energy demand.

UK gas prices have also dropped back from their highs earlier this year. The day-ahead gas price closed at 155p per therm on Wednesday, compared with 200p/therm at the start of 2022, and more than 500p/therm in August.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » December 29th, 2022, 3:24 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:See Ukraine is taking with mohdi concerning peace mediations.
At least he is dojng it from a position of capability after that air base attack.

If us sends that patriot missile system with the military operations teams, it will shift this conflict to another level.
Those sites would be legitimate targets, but would be us troops.
US will have to decide if it will use that as a legitimate reason to enter out right or dress back.

The patriot system is expensive, doesn't work well enough, puts us boots in direct targets.
There is not strategic advantage to sending there.
The only reason to send that there is to create pretext to enter war directly.




Faster this comes to and end, the better for all.
How could you erroneously conclude that the US military will operate a Patriot missile system inside of Ukraine as opposed to the US training Ukrainian military personnel outside of Ukraine on how to use the missile system?


A Patriot battery can need as many as 90 troops to operate and maintain it, and for months the U.S. was reluctant to provide the complex system because sending forces into Ukraine to operate it is a non-starter for the Biden administration.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 38022534c7
It's being touted that they are to supply that system.
It's a poor tactical move to supply that system. The only reason tk supply itz is to fabricate a reason to put us gi boots on the ground.


Is if us brave enough to actually follow thru

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 29th, 2022, 3:53 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:See Ukraine is taking with mohdi concerning peace mediations.
At least he is dojng it from a position of capability after that air base attack.

If us sends that patriot missile system with the military operations teams, it will shift this conflict to another level.
Those sites would be legitimate targets, but would be us troops.
US will have to decide if it will use that as a legitimate reason to enter out right or dress back.

The patriot system is expensive, doesn't work well enough, puts us boots in direct targets.
There is not strategic advantage to sending there.
The only reason to send that there is to create pretext to enter war directly.




Faster this comes to and end, the better for all.
How could you erroneously conclude that the US military will operate a Patriot missile system inside of Ukraine as opposed to the US training Ukrainian military personnel outside of Ukraine on how to use the missile system?


A Patriot battery can need as many as 90 troops to operate and maintain it, and for months the U.S. was reluctant to provide the complex system because sending forces into Ukraine to operate it is a non-starter for the Biden administration.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 38022534c7
It's being touted that they are to supply that system.
It's a poor tactical move to supply that system. The only reason tk supply itz is to fabricate a reason to put us gi boots on the ground.

Is if us brave enough to actually follow thru


US military decisions by people that attended USA War College.
You disagree after enrolling in Trini barber college.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » December 29th, 2022, 7:48 pm

Us need war to sell. Guns and bombs. The whole of Hillary campaign since Obama was Russia russia Russia.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 29th, 2022, 9:21 pm

sMASH wrote:Us need war to sell. Guns and bombs. The whole of Hillary campaign since Obama was Russia russia Russia.
I suppose Hillary and Barack shouldn't have convinced Russia to invade.

Disclaimer: my shares in Lockheed-Martin are up 25% since October.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » December 30th, 2022, 9:00 am

sMASH wrote:Us need war to sell. Guns and bombs. The whole of Hillary campaign since Obama was Russia russia Russia.


Ah yes guns and bombs.....only the 47th largest export of the USA contributing .25% of total exports.
How would they live if they don't sell war??

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » December 30th, 2022, 2:28 pm

Nearly 40 years ago, the USSR was the largest economy in the world.

If you want to know why Russia invaded Ukraine, try to find Russia on this infographic:

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » December 30th, 2022, 2:59 pm

MURICA

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 2nd, 2023, 6:48 am

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Daniil Bezsonov, a senior Russian-backed official in the occupied parts of Donetsk, said the missile struck Makiivka two minutes after midnight on New Year's Day.

"A massive blow was dealt to the vocational school from American MLRS Himars," he said, referring to US-provided missiles.

"There were dead and wounded, the exact number is still unknown," Bezsonov added in a post on the messaging app Telegram.

A number of Russian commentators and bloggers acknowledged the attack - but suggested the numbers were lower than claimed.

Vladimir Solovyov, a Russian presenter, wrote on Telegram "losses were significant... but not even close" to 400.

According to the Ukrainian military, 300 people were wounded in addition to the estimated 400 killed.

The Russian-installed administration said at least 25 rockets were fired at the region overnight on New Year's Eve.

Hours after the strike in Makiivka, Kyiv came under fire. A drone and missile attack targeted critical infrastructure, the Ukrainian capital's regional governor Oleksiy Kuleba said.

One man in Kyiv was injured by debris from a destroyed Russian drone, the capital's mayor added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64142650.amp

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » January 3rd, 2023, 7:32 am

Ukraine says 300-400, Russia says 63.....real answer is probably 150-200 dead.

HIMARs making a big difference in this war now.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 3rd, 2023, 8:12 am

matr1x wrote:When the cold snap happens, Europe will boil down like bahjii
Europe is still waiting for the cold snap.

The safest money is just to bet against you.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 3rd, 2023, 7:12 pm

Next
Three
Months.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 3rd, 2023, 8:06 pm

sMASH wrote:Next
Three
Months.


Safe money is betting against you, too.

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Gas futures are plummeting on reduced fuel consumption and the weaker outlook. European gas fell Tuesday, a day after briefly touching the lowest level since the war in Ukraine started. In the US, benchmark prices dropped as much as 11% Tuesday to dip below $4 per million British thermal units for the first time since February.

Gas storage across Europe is 84% full, far above the five-year seasonal norm of 70%, according to Gas Infrastructure Europe.

Strong winds are also reducing stress on the region’s energy systems. Germany is expected to produce near-record wind power on Wednesday, according to a Bloomberg model, curbing the need for gas to produce electricity.

Demand destruction in recent months has helped to balance the gas market. Some industrial consumers in Europe lowered or halted output because they didn’t want to pay high prices, while emerging nations such as Pakistan and Bangladesh stopped importing LNG because they could no longer afford it.

The impact in China of a surge in Covid cases should add to the muted picture, keeping gas demand lower there for the next few months, according to traders.

https://fortune.com/2023/01/03/gas-cris ... -invasion/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 3rd, 2023, 8:13 pm

And they gave out a 50 euro one time fire wood Grant.... Rolling power cuts tell a different story.

It's still warm yet.


Within the next three months this thing will come to a head. Unless us or nato steps in, one way or another this gonna solve.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 3rd, 2023, 8:46 pm

sMASH wrote:And they gave out a 50 euro one time fire wood Grant.... Rolling power cuts tell a different story.

It's still warm yet.


Within the next three months this thing will come to a head. Unless us or nato steps in, one way or another this gonna solve.
And it's expected to stay warm.

Europe's long range forecast? Above normal temperatures through mid-February.

Look at the map. See the warmest spot? Those were some of Russia's best customers.

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https://effis.jrc.ec.europa.eu/apps/eff ... forecasts/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 3rd, 2023, 10:44 pm

Seems Ukraine doing tonight what I had hoped they would have done sooner.......make at attempt at striking Rostov-on-Don.

Russia and the Russian people need to start feeling pain in thier major urban areas and RoD seems a logical 1st strike.
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