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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby K_J_R » August 4th, 2022, 9:03 am

maj. tom wrote:These people attacking essential national infrastructure now. And the government not doing enough. This should have been stopped with hard and forceful measures by the authorities. It's like "let's just see where it goes." Authorities needs to send a stern message to the root cause.

Get informants and find out immediately which yards buying it. It's not like these pipers stealing cable to go home and hug it up yuh know, somebody buying it!!! Then lock it down and find all the stolen material. This scrap yard business organized like a drug mafia. No regulation, no controls, no oversight.


correct. attacking public and now private insfrastructure.

boldfaceness continue since no enforcement of the law, no punishment to those responsible, little to no media coverage. the excuse about ppl being unemplyed without scrap iron 'industry' is bs.

what the hell they was doing beofre? becuz dey might be unemployed, let dem tief out the country instead?

boldface tief will continue since ppl see nothing is being done.

tho i was surprised by that headline on yesterday express. like somebody wake up there.

pugboy wrote:they can’t be bothered, scrap iron is small potatoes

look at illegal quarrying, hundreds of millions stolen every year and nada is done….


yea but ent some big sawatie getting $ in dem ting?

so i wonder who getting kickback from this copper tief crap?
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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby hover11 » August 4th, 2022, 9:06 am

Politicians unphased and still sleeping, crime and scrap dealers will continue unabated.

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2022, 10:06 am

the more i think about it the more i am convinced there is a lot more than these rough looking folks involved in this industry
too much money and forex jumping up
plenty washing going on

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Dizzy28 » August 4th, 2022, 10:17 am

pugboy wrote:the more i think about it the more i am convinced there is a lot more than these rough looking folks involved in this industry
too much money and forex jumping up
plenty washing going on


Scrap Iron is worth around TT$260m but as you mention they get pay in US$
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Scrap copper isn't actually significant in overall exports of scrap
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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2022, 10:34 am

where those export figures come from?

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby K_J_R » August 4th, 2022, 10:42 am

pugboy wrote:where those export figures come from?


ting looking official. real 'industry' standard.

scrap iron may have more $ but copper being 'procured' by the pests for nothing and being sold.

daz a nice margin dey.

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Dizzy28 » August 4th, 2022, 10:53 am

pugboy wrote:where those export figures come from?


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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Chimera » August 4th, 2022, 11:22 am

pugboy wrote:the more i think about it the more i am convinced there is a lot more than these rough looking folks involved in this industry
too much money and forex jumping up
plenty washing going on



the video where the man bracing the scrap iron boss about he owing him 17 million
the man who bracing him is Randy Aking of CJ Lumber
he said on facebook comments that he took a loan to invest with the scrap iron boss and he never got paid back
case currently in court

this scrap iron industry they get alot of USD , i see someone post its atleast 25k USD per container they export

and to show you how much them fellas who pass around buying scrap making $$$....i sold a couple loads recently, took it to the scrap yard myself as i have a l200 and the scrap yard is 5 mins away

had a load of old 3 phase motors that scrap iron pipers offer me $400 for
took it myself and got $2300

had a big old metal box that was part of a hospital incinerator , scrap iron men offered $500
got $1700 for it when i took it

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2022, 11:30 am

wonder if the exporters are mandated to provide accurate figures

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pugboy wrote:where those export figures come from?


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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Chimera » August 4th, 2022, 11:35 am

pugboy wrote:wonder if the exporters are mandated to provide accurate figures

Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:where those export figures come from?


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i doubt

because the scrap yards buying abroad wouldnt want to pay full taxes on their imports/ profits

https://recyclinginternational.com/busi ... ted/33075/

https://miningzimbabwe.com/massive-corr ... l-exports/

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Dizzy28 » August 4th, 2022, 11:41 am

pugboy wrote:wonder if the exporters are mandated to provide accurate figures

Dizzy28 wrote:
pugboy wrote:where those export figures come from?


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I do believe the figures are collated from customs declaration forms
All imports and exports have to pass through Customs and Excise

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Chimera » August 4th, 2022, 11:48 am

this is from 2003

https://www.ttbizlink.gov.tt/trade/tnt/ ... y_2013.pdf

Inspection and Certification for Export
Licenced scrap yards must be inspected by an inspector from the Trade Licence Unit (TLU) to
ensure compliance with this Policy. Additionally, containers, vehicles or other vessels which are
used or intended for use for transportation of scrap metal must be inspected by a police officer
from the nearest police station.
It is also the responsibility of all exporters to give the Customs and Excise Division and the
Trinidad and Tobago Police Service at least 5 days notice prior to the packing of the container in
order to ensure that an officer is present to conduct the inspection while the container(s) is
being loaded at their approved packing facility. Also, Customs and the Trinidad and Tobago
Police Service (TTPS) must be posted at loading sites to ensure thorough inspection of
containers.



no idea if thats the real scene

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby RedVEVO » August 4th, 2022, 11:49 am

hover11 wrote:Politicians unphased and still sleeping, crime and scrap dealers will continue unabated.


Do you know that scrap iron industry bring in foreign $$$ ?

If they attempt to ban the industry it will go underground and then criminals will make $$$ on the black market :D

Then crime will really increase - Criminals diversify very quickly and very efficiently -

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 4th, 2022, 12:24 pm

The problem locally as with many things is enforcement

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby hover11 » August 4th, 2022, 12:26 pm

August 4th, 2022
MEDIA RELEASE

Caroni Detectives Arrest Two for Theft of Iron Materials

Two men were arrested and a quantity of materials belonging to the Ministry of Works and Transport (MOWT), which was reported stolen, was recovered by officers of the Central Division.

An employee of the Ministry reported to the police that he last saw nine iron beams, 60 electrical steel pipes, two excavator buckets, one 18-inch one-way valve pipe and six pieces of overhanging beams on the secured compound of the MOWT in Caroni, around 3 pm, on Friday 29th July, 2022.

He alleges when he returned around 6:30 pm, on August 2nd 2022, he discovered the said materials missing.

A report was made to the Caroni Police Station and a party of officers conducted intensive investigations into the matter.

Based on information received, officers proceeded to a scrap iron business in the Cunupia district, where they found the stolen materials.

The owner of the business, a 33-year-old of Chaguanas and another man, a 36-year-old, of Sangre Grande, were arrested in connection with the finds.

Investigations are ongoing.

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby hover11 » August 4th, 2022, 12:28 pm

The industry needs to shutdown because you giving the police more problems to deal with the time they allotted towards this could have been spent focusing on other areas

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 4th, 2022, 12:48 pm

i really wonder if them containers being inspected and weights checked as per that document

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Chimera » August 4th, 2022, 12:56 pm

if its just for a police to sign off on it....then no doubt it goes the same way as containers that are signed off by customs officers at persons business places.....

cheaper to bribe a police than a customers officer

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby RedVEVO » August 4th, 2022, 12:58 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:if its just for a police to sign off on it....then no doubt it goes the same way as containers that are signed off by customs officers at persons business places.....

cheaper to bribe a police than a customers officer


How YOU know this ?

Is it by experience ?

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby K74T » August 5th, 2022, 10:42 am

August 5th, 2022
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Businessman Charged with Receiving Stolen Iron Materials

A businessman is expected to appear before a Chaguanas Magistrate today, charged with receiving stolen items belonging to the Ministry of Works and Transport (MOWT).

SUMIT CHADHA, 32, of Chaguanas, was charged with the offence on Thursday 4th August, 2022, after being arrested at his Cunupia business place on Wednesday 3rd August, 2022.

This follows an intensive police investigation into the report of a quantity of iron materials being stolen from the MOWT compound in Caroni, during the period Friday 29th July, 2022 and Tuesday 2nd August, 2022.

Based on information received, officers proceeded to a scrap iron business in the Cunupia district, where they successfully recovered the stolen materials on Wednesday 3rd August, 2022.

The accused and one other person were arrested in connection with the matter.

Chadha was charged by Sgt. (Ag.) Ali of the Central Division.

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Rovin » August 5th, 2022, 10:54 am

u cud see is practically new never used dozens lengths of fat pipe & fabricated rafters painted like its about to go into a project

they might make an example of him especially where u see he is a foreigner who they feel will prolly have d $ to pay a big fine ...
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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby K_J_R » August 5th, 2022, 2:03 pm

good job in catching that pest in central. more pests to be caught.

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The problem locally as with many things is enforcement


ppl calling for law and stoppage of export of scrap. if the current laws are not being followed or enforced why would any new ones be enforced.?

stopping exports ent mean nuttin. fellas will use the 'borders and boats down in icacos an ting to move material just like they do immigrants.

the pests have to be caught for this to stop

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 5th, 2022, 3:33 pm

the chap probably received the goods and was gonna stuff it in container soon after but must be get delayed or didnt have an empty container to stuff those long pieces of steel or get chance to cut them down with torch.

the scrap assoc head say it not simple to get license to operate a scrap yard yet these foreigners come and open up shop easy easy

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby aaron17 » August 5th, 2022, 4:11 pm

Its a matter of time.. to come for your air condition copper!

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby nervewrecker » August 5th, 2022, 4:35 pm

aaron17 wrote:Its a matter of time.. to come for your air condition copper!


Happening a year now. A lot of places lost copper.

Get this, the copper worth more as is. A 50 foot roll of 1/4" copper is over $400.00 right now. They selling it for $25.00

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby pugboy » August 5th, 2022, 5:20 pm

6month ban

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby K_J_R » August 5th, 2022, 6:33 pm

pugboy wrote:6month ban


ah like minister gonsalves eh. he summarize the situation good.

but by his own mouth, this happening months to a year now. why so late to take action?


fellow tuners, brace yourselves. the 6 month ban is proposed, but not in action yet.

there may be a mad-rush from the pests befoe the ban is put in action that could spell havok for everything, public and private, while the pests tief out d place and cash out before the ban.

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby Rovin » August 5th, 2022, 7:09 pm

well well not only copper but ALL metals exportation banned for 6mths

i tort it wuda been at least copper ban but look d whole pie

dem scrap iron men must be holding they heads & bawling all now after hearing d news

what can i say, they over did it & now hadda find ah next wuk for d upcoming 6mths ... hope d shiit eh start back like normal when d 6mths is over

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Re: Scrap iron dealers

Postby matix » August 5th, 2022, 7:26 pm

Rovin wrote:well well not only copper but ALL metals exportation banned for 6mths

i tort it wuda been at least copper ban but look d whole pie

dem scrap iron men must be holding they heads & bawling all now after hearing d news

what can i say, they over did it & now hadda find ah next wuk for d upcoming 6mths ... hope d shiit eh start back like normal when d 6mths is over


The next Wuk gonna be home invasions

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