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If Frank Seepersad had ruled in favor of the UNC activist, does it mean the judiciary is suddenly impartial?hover11 wrote:Who pays the judges, there you go. We supposed to have separation of powers , we do in theory but in practical, real life situations everyone knows that's not the case. The government has no problem with things going to court because they know judges sing for their supper and benefits, so the decision is already made before the judgements are delivered.
Are you saying that the Judiciary is impartial and unbiased?wing wrote:If Frank Seepersad had ruled in favor of the UNC activist, does it mean the judiciary is suddenly impartial?hover11 wrote:Who pays the judges, there you go. We supposed to have separation of powers , we do in theory but in practical, real life situations everyone knows that's not the case. The government has no problem with things going to court because they know judges sing for their supper and benefits, so the decision is already made before the judgements are delivered.
wing wrote:If Frank Seepersad had ruled in favor of the UNC activist, does it mean the judiciary is suddenly impartial?hover11 wrote:Who pays the judges, there you go. We supposed to have separation of powers , we do in theory but in practical, real life situations everyone knows that's not the case. The government has no problem with things going to court because they know judges sing for their supper and benefits, so the decision is already made before the judgements are delivered.
X1000Dizzy28 wrote:wing wrote:If Frank Seepersad had ruled in favor of the UNC activist, does it mean the judiciary is suddenly impartial?hover11 wrote:Who pays the judges, there you go. We supposed to have separation of powers , we do in theory but in practical, real life situations everyone knows that's not the case. The government has no problem with things going to court because they know judges sing for their supper and benefits, so the decision is already made before the judgements are delivered.
Was about to type up more or less this. Everytime a judgement goes against PNM and usually when its Indian judges all the mites run out and bawl "UNC Operatives in the Judiciary/know them by thier last name etc etc" Now we more or less seeing the same in this case.
Its not healthy for every political judgement at the Judiciary to be watched through the lens of politics.
So what happened here? Gobin paid by the THA? Racist judgement? Democracy falling apart? Kamla fault?wing wrote:Davidson-Celestine defamation case against Augustine struck out
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Derek Achong
4 hours ago
Thu Dec 01 2022
Leader of the Tobago PNM Executive Council, Tracey Davidson-Celestine.
Derek Achong
A defamation lawsuit brought by former People's National Movement (PNM) Tobago Council political leader Tracey Davidson-Celestine against Tobago House of Assembly (THA) Chief Secretary Farley Augustine has been struck out.
The development in the case took place a short while ago during a hearing before High Court Judge Carol Gobin.
Davidson-Celestine was ordered to pay Augustine's legal costs for defending the lawsuit, which did not reach the trial stage.
Her ability to continue to pursue the case was raised by Augustine's legal team during a case management hearing in early October.
Augustine's lawyer Ken Wright indicated that Davidson-Celestine's legal team did not apply to the court to host a case management conference in the case after they filed their defence by an extended deadline.
Wright pointed out that under the Civil Proceedings Rules (CPR) 1998, which governs how civil litigation is managed, cases should be automatically struck out if the correct procedure is not followed.
In the lawsuit, Davidson-Celestine was claiming that Augustine tarnished her reputation when he accused her of corruption in relation to a zipline project allegedly undertaken by the THA in 2015.
Augustine made the comments while addressing a Progressive Democratic Patriots (PDP) political meeting in Scarborough in the run-up to the THA elections in January 2021.
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Davidson-Celestine denied any wrongdoing as she claimed that the project had barely begun when she left her role as THA tourism secretary to take up the post of T&T Ambassador to Costa Rica in 2017.
The election eventually ended in a stalemate with the PNM and PDP each securing six districts.
The THA districts were subsequently increased from 12 to 15 before another election was held in December of that year.
The second election ended in a landslide victory for the PDP, which secured 14 of the districts.
The THA recently filed a breach of contract lawsuit against Original Canopy Tours Enterprises Limited seeking US$416,900 in compensation over its alleged failure to comply with the terms of the agreement over the zipline project for the Main Ridge Forest Reserve.
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Earlier this month, the THA obtained freezing orders from a High Court Judge and the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court against Richard Graham and Darren Hreniuk, the directors of the company which is registered in the British Virgin Islands.
The orders prevent the duo from disposing of funds in their T&T and BVI bank accounts, which can be used to pay the compensation if the THA is eventually successful in its litigation.
Augustine was also represented by Justin Phelps, while Davidson-Celestine was represented by Keith Scotland, Asha Watkins-Montserin, and Keisha Kydd-Hannibal.
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wing wrote:So what happened here? Gobin paid by the THA? Racist judgement? Democracy falling apart? Kamla fault?wing wrote:Davidson-Celestine defamation case against Augustine struck out
by
Derek Achong
4 hours ago
Thu Dec 01 2022
Leader of the Tobago PNM Executive Council, Tracey Davidson-Celestine.
Derek Achong
A defamation lawsuit brought by former People's National Movement (PNM) Tobago Council political leader Tracey Davidson-Celestine against Tobago House of Assembly (THA) Chief Secretary Farley Augustine has been struck out.
The development in the case took place a short while ago during a hearing before High Court Judge Carol Gobin.
Davidson-Celestine was ordered to pay Augustine's legal costs for defending the lawsuit, which did not reach the trial stage.
Her ability to continue to pursue the case was raised by Augustine's legal team during a case management hearing in early October.
Augustine's lawyer Ken Wright indicated that Davidson-Celestine's legal team did not apply to the court to host a case management conference in the case after they filed their defence by an extended deadline.
Wright pointed out that under the Civil Proceedings Rules (CPR) 1998, which governs how civil litigation is managed, cases should be automatically struck out if the correct procedure is not followed.
In the lawsuit, Davidson-Celestine was claiming that Augustine tarnished her reputation when he accused her of corruption in relation to a zipline project allegedly undertaken by the THA in 2015.
Augustine made the comments while addressing a Progressive Democratic Patriots (PDP) political meeting in Scarborough in the run-up to the THA elections in January 2021.
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Davidson-Celestine denied any wrongdoing as she claimed that the project had barely begun when she left her role as THA tourism secretary to take up the post of T&T Ambassador to Costa Rica in 2017.
The election eventually ended in a stalemate with the PNM and PDP each securing six districts.
The THA districts were subsequently increased from 12 to 15 before another election was held in December of that year.
The second election ended in a landslide victory for the PDP, which secured 14 of the districts.
The THA recently filed a breach of contract lawsuit against Original Canopy Tours Enterprises Limited seeking US$416,900 in compensation over its alleged failure to comply with the terms of the agreement over the zipline project for the Main Ridge Forest Reserve.
Report Ad
Earlier this month, the THA obtained freezing orders from a High Court Judge and the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court against Richard Graham and Darren Hreniuk, the directors of the company which is registered in the British Virgin Islands.
The orders prevent the duo from disposing of funds in their T&T and BVI bank accounts, which can be used to pay the compensation if the THA is eventually successful in its litigation.
Augustine was also represented by Justin Phelps, while Davidson-Celestine was represented by Keith Scotland, Asha Watkins-Montserin, and Keisha Kydd-Hannibal.
From I read there, the appeal wash their hands and passed it on to the privy councilThe_Honourable wrote:High Court shuts down request to challenge Local Government Election extension
Political activist Ravi Balgobin Maharaj has failed in his bid to challenge the Government's move to extend the term of local government representatives by a year.
Delivering a judgement at the Hall of Justice in Port-of-Spain, a short while ago, Appellate Judges Prakash Moosai, Gillian Lucky, and James Aboud dismissed Maharaj's appeal against the Cabinet and Rural Development and Local Government Minister Faris Al-Rawi.
Justice Moosai, who delivered the panel's decision, stated that the constitutional right to vote only applied to general elections and not local government elections.
The panel also ruled that the Cabinet was entitled to proclaim segments of the Miscellaneous Provisions (Local Government Reform) Act, which prescribed the change.
The outcome of the appeal is not the end of Maharaj's legal challenge as even before the Appeal Court's decision was delivered the parties agreed that the United Kingdom-based Privy Council should weigh in on it.
In his lawsuit, Maharaj is claiming that he became concerned after Al-Rawi hosted a press conference and announced the Government's intention to proclaim certain sections of the legislation.
The sections of the legislation identified by Al-Rawi seek to increase the terms of councilors from three years to four years. It effectively caused the deferral of the election, which would be due between December, last year, and March, this year.
Maharaj is contending that Al-Rawi misinterpreted the effect of the legislation when he announced plans to apply it to incumbent councillors and aldermen as he claims that it did not have a retroactive effect.
Through the lawsuit, Maharaj is seeking a series of declarations against the move and an order quashing it.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/high-co ... 33f45bb785
Then it opens up another can of worms , if we are so corrupt that we cannot apply the law fairly and without malice ourselves but wait for old slave Masters to decide for us. Are we truly independent? I pretty sure England fed up of hearing our small island problems, it is better we do away with this Judiciary we have because it is tainted and let the lords decide everything for us as we are incapable of applying justice among ourselves.Rovin wrote:u cud see why we still need d privy council ...
The appeal court don't want to get in PNM mess so they passed it on to the Privy Council. Smart move cause the PNM does not obey Trini lawsRovin wrote:u cud see why we still need d privy council ...
That's what they said in Nazi Germany, who cares about the Jewspaid_influencer wrote:who care what the privy council say. waste of taxpayers money. nothing going to change
edit: pnm safe seat here
This has been pnm's master plan all along, tie up everything in the courts till elections and then give the ppl what they want.Rovin wrote:by d time this gets attended to d year they postponed it by might reach up, like mentioned it was carefully orchestrated ...
But wasn't it the UNC activist that started the court action in the first place? Or was he baited into doing so? Either way, the lawyers eating very well.hover11 wrote:This has been pnm's master plan all along, tie up everything in the courts till elections and then give the ppl what they want.Rovin wrote:by d time this gets attended to d year they postponed it by might reach up, like mentioned it was carefully orchestrated ...
wing wrote:But wasn't it the UNC activist that started the court action in the first place? Or was he baited into doing so? Either way, the lawyers eating very well.hover11 wrote:This has been pnm's master plan all along, tie up everything in the courts till elections and then give the ppl what they want.Rovin wrote:by d time this gets attended to d year they postponed it by might reach up, like mentioned it was carefully orchestrated ...
wing wrote:But wasn't it the UNC activist that started the court action in the first place? Or was he baited into doing so? Either way, the lawyers eating very well.hover11 wrote:This has been pnm's master plan all along, tie up everything in the courts till elections and then give the ppl what they want.Rovin wrote:by d time this gets attended to d year they postponed it by might reach up, like mentioned it was carefully orchestrated ...
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