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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby The_Honourable » June 17th, 2023, 2:05 am

Mmoney607 wrote:Indian does only join pnm for money


Eh heh? well explain Obika to the tuner population?


THE People’s National Movement (PNM) has staged another ‘political coup” in the United National Congress (UNC) camp, raiding it of one of its financial assets, former senator, economist and banker, Taharqua Obika.

Obika is the fourth member of the UNC to have defected to the PNM in recent times. The lone UNC councillor in the PNM-controlled Arima Borough Corporation, Sheldon "Fish" Garcia; Samuel Sankar, former councillor for Warrenville/Kelly Village and former Marabella South/Vistabella councillor Marcus Girdharrie have all crossed over to the PNM.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/06/16/pnm-we ... -its-fold/

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Mmoney607 » June 17th, 2023, 8:09 am

The_Honourable wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Indian does only join pnm for money


Eh heh? well explain Obika to the tuner population?


THE People’s National Movement (PNM) has staged another ‘political coup” in the United National Congress (UNC) camp, raiding it of one of its financial assets, former senator, economist and banker, Taharqua Obika.

Obika is the fourth member of the UNC to have defected to the PNM in recent times. The lone UNC councillor in the PNM-controlled Arima Borough Corporation, Sheldon "Fish" Garcia; Samuel Sankar, former councillor for Warrenville/Kelly Village and former Marabella South/Vistabella councillor Marcus Girdharrie have all crossed over to the PNM.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/06/16/pnm-we ... -its-fold/


Very predictable that you all will try to make attack my African brother. I will judge my brother based on actions while wearing the red shirt.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby DMan7 » June 17th, 2023, 8:47 am

I'm sure there are more people who wants to crossover to the PNM from the UNC as they must have had private talks with them but no positions are available for them at this time. They won't leave UNC without at least having somewhere else to go.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Chimera » June 17th, 2023, 12:59 pm

those fellas realize that UNC hopeless and sinking so they jumping ship early

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby pugboy » June 17th, 2023, 1:12 pm

look at their ages too, they realise it is impossible to reason with them old dogs who already have their govt mp pension fixed for life

Phone Surgeon wrote:those fellas realize that UNC hopeless and sinking so they jumping ship early

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Rovin » June 17th, 2023, 2:05 pm

cud we really vex with political grass hoppers cause they know kamla staying til 2025 & we all know future loss done booked

jes like in sports & anything else it really eh make sense staying on d same stale losing team, so some of dem doh mind eating their own vomit they spewed against d same side\ppl they going with ...

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby VexXx Dogg » June 17th, 2023, 3:14 pm

Rovin wrote:cud we really vex with political grass hoppers cause they know kamla staying til 2025 & we all know future loss done booked

jes like in sports & anything else it really eh make sense staying on d same stale losing team, so some of dem doh mind eating their own vomit they spewed against d same side\ppl they going with ...


As the mighty silver fox said "politics has a morality of its own"
Them pissing on the other side goes with the territory, plenty of them does knock glass and is good friend outside the political limelight.

So words out of a polishithong mouth should be taken with a dose of salt. From pisses to promises. It's just a game to them, and their endgame is political power.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby Dizzy28 » June 17th, 2023, 6:05 pm

UNC doesn't realize how shiddy they have to be for someone to watch PNM and be like yea I going there?

Some self introspection by the Mustard party is solely needed.

With that said Ppl whose entire life is tied to open political allegiance are not to be trusted at all.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » June 17th, 2023, 7:05 pm

we really cyar blame him. The man get into politics to be in government, not opposition. why he should spend the next decade in opposition, for love of kamla? waste the prime of his political career behind kamla?

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Postby Kickstart » June 17th, 2023, 7:19 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:UNC doesn't realize how shiddy they have to be for someone to watch PNM and be like yea I going there?

Some self introspection by the Mustard party is solely needed.

With that said Ppl whose entire life is tied to open political allegiance are not to be trusted at all.
In the late 1970s and early 1980 Cubas Castro let some of his people escape to Miami via small boats. In that mix of mass migration, Castro also released criminals from his jails and thus making a US problem. These criminals brought crime and the drug trade to Miami in the early 1980s.

In the UNC house cleaning is also needed.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby pugboy » June 17th, 2023, 7:54 pm

wham to serving the people

paid_influencer wrote:we really cyar blame him. The man get into politics to be in government, not opposition. why he should spend the next decade in opposition, for love of kamla? waste the prime of his political career behind kamla?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby The_Honourable » June 18th, 2023, 12:43 am

pugboy wrote:wham to serving the people

paid_influencer wrote:we really cyar blame him. The man get into politics to be in government, not opposition. why he should spend the next decade in opposition, for love of kamla? waste the prime of his political career behind kamla?


What about it? :lol:

Treasury > People

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby pugboy » June 18th, 2023, 5:58 am

serve yuh pocket and MP pension and all fun and games after

The_Honourable wrote:
pugboy wrote:wham to serving the people

paid_influencer wrote:we really cyar blame him. The man get into politics to be in government, not opposition. why he should spend the next decade in opposition, for love of kamla? waste the prime of his political career behind kamla?


What about it? :lol:

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby greggle71 » June 18th, 2023, 9:33 am

Not sure if these defections gonna mean any change by way of actual voting numbers that will represent some form of material change. People probably will vote who they normally vote for or not vote at all

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » June 18th, 2023, 10:10 am

Newsday contacted UNC PRO Dr Kirk Meighoo who appeared surprised by the departure of Obika’s who was the chief economist in the Office of the Leader of the Opposition Kamla Persad-Bissessar.


any consequence to him being kamla's former chief economist. is kamla chief economist a figurehead position

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby The_Honourable » June 21st, 2023, 1:03 pm

Former UNC Senator Taharqa Obika Speaks


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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby The_Honourable » June 26th, 2023, 10:23 am

Another one... even spell the leader's surname incorrectly while leaving :lol:

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 26th, 2023, 10:26 am

Few weeks to go before election and sailors jumping ship....well look at that

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » July 18th, 2023, 1:48 pm

mero wrote:
L is d code

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Postby DMan7 » July 18th, 2023, 6:38 pm

matix wrote:


Male or female?


Was wondering the same thing.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby mero » July 19th, 2023, 10:27 am

Morning.

Wuz d code?

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » July 19th, 2023, 8:43 pm

kamla wearing BLUE these days

I wonder who they going to ketch with this NTA/blue party gimmickry. NTA is like a knock-off COP she parading around with after she absorb/kill off the actual COP. ppl hadda be real dunce to go back to the she

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby The_Honourable » July 19th, 2023, 9:23 pm

paid_influencer wrote:kamla wearing BLUE these days

I wonder who they going to ketch with this NTA/blue party gimmickry. NTA is like a knock-off COP she parading around with after she absorb/kill off the actual COP. ppl hadda be real dunce to go back to the she


COP killed of themselves. They were in essence an anti-panday faction with a sprinkle of anti-manning. Once Panday was removed and Kamla became leader, many went home. COP didn't stand up to the UNC during the Partnership days because many in the COP supported Kamla instead of their own leader (Dooks then Prakash Ramadhar). By 2015, COP was a Corpse.

The difference with Dookeran COP and Gary NTA is that Dooks didn't have backbone. Gary has a strong personality that gives his mouth liberty so he is the kinda guy that will have no qualms bracing Kamla publicly if he thinks she's doing sheet.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby MaxPower » July 19th, 2023, 9:25 pm

mero wrote:Morning.

Wuz d code?


O evening.

It on Kamla forehead.

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby paid_influencer » July 19th, 2023, 10:47 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:kamla wearing BLUE these days

I wonder who they going to ketch with this NTA/blue party gimmickry. NTA is like a knock-off COP she parading around with after she absorb/kill off the actual COP. ppl hadda be real dunce to go back to the she


COP killed of themselves. They were in essence an anti-panday faction with a sprinkle of anti-manning. Once Panday was removed and Kamla became leader, many went home. COP didn't stand up to the UNC during the Partnership days because many in the COP supported Kamla instead of their own leader (Dooks then Prakash Ramadhar). By 2015, COP was a Corpse.

The difference with Dookeran COP and Gary NTA is that Dooks didn't have backbone. Gary has a strong personality that gives his mouth liberty so he is the kinda guy that will have no qualms bracing Kamla publicly if he thinks she's doing sheet.


I read that first sentence way out of context

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Postby wing » July 22nd, 2023, 9:04 am

Jack is back with UNC ... to join Kamla, Gary on political stage Monday
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St Augustine MP and UNC Deputy Chairman Khadijah Ameen, left, and Jack Warner, right, in a planning session at the Tunapuna Regional office with Tunapuna/Piarco and East-West corridor candidates of UNC, NTA and ILP recently.

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The embattled founder of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP), Jack Warner, is officially back on the political scene with the United National Congress (UNC) less than a month before Local Government Elections on August 14. It is, however, unclear in what capacity.  

Warner’s return was inadvertently leaked by UNC councillor Adrian Ali on Friday, after he shared a photo of the former FIFA vice president standing next to St Augustine MP Khadijah Ameen, the party’s deputy political leader, on his Facebook page. The image sparked conversations of an alliance, but it was pulled sometime later.

Guardian Media contacted Warner, Ameen and UNC Public Relations Officer Dr Kirk Meighoo to inquire when and where the image was taken but feedback was limited. They remained tight-lipped on the developments, except to say that more would be revealed on Monday.

Several hours after the conversation with Meighoo, a flyer was uploaded to the UNC’s Facebook page informing the public of a joint meeting where Warner is tipped to give an address. The party will hold its Local Government Elections campaign meeting at the Centre of Excellence, Macoya, on that day.

It will be his first time on a UNC platform in ten years.

 Leader of the National Transformation Alliance Gary Griffith will also take the stage where the party’s political leader, Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar, is expected to be the featured speaker. Warner is expected to speak just before her.
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This is not the first time that Warner and Persad-Bissessar have reunited. In February, they were captured liming, their arms locked together, at the UNC fundraiser “I Love Choka”, a Carnival fete at the Centre of Excellence.

 

Strange bedfellows

Warner and Persad-Bissessar were Cabinet colleagues and friends before the 2010 snap general election.  

However, those years of friendship ended once Warner was accused of corruption during his tenure at FIFA in 2013. He resigned from the Cabinet as national security minister and Chaguanas West MP two days later, and Persad-Bissessar distanced herself from her long-time colleague.

The split was bitter.

Warner then formed the ILP, competing against the UNC in past elections and the mudslinging began. In 2015, he promised to do anything to unseat her following her denial that he helped her win the 2010 polls.

 In 2022, he alleged that he worked with the PNM to do just that because she “hurt him passionately and also with things”.  When they reunited publicly in February, Warner told Guardian Media that this was the beginning of things to come. Their coming together now for the Local Government Elections is evidence of that statement.

It should be noted that Warner is still fighting US extradition on the alleged FIFA issues.

Political analysts disagree on Warner’s impact
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Rampersad: He has the acumen to bring out supporters from the ground

With the shocking news that Warner and Persad-Bissessar have reunited despite their checkered past, political analysts are in disagreement over whether his return will make an impact in the upcoming Local Government Elections on August 14.

Dr Indira Rampersad was not surprised by Warner’s return considering the UNC’s open call to politicians to join forces on June 14. However, she acknowledged that some members of the Opposition may not be happy with their rekindling.

“Jack Warner does have cocoa in the sun, as we say, and there will be some fallout. But I think they’re looking at a bigger picture here where they can broad base the party and bring in some of the votes that they would have lost in 2015,” she said.

“He has national, regional and international reach. He has the resources, he has the capacity, he has the acumen to bring out supporters from the ground and from nooks and crannies from the lesser constituencies or corporations as the case may be.”
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Mohammed: He is entering the lion’s den

However, geopolitical analyst Dr Shane Mohammed said this alliance would not serve the UNC as the People’s Partnership did in 2010 when it trounced the People’s National Movement.  According to Dr Mohammed, Warner is entering the lion’s den in a party that is divided about his return.

“I think Mr Warner understands very much that there are people within the UNC who he has to work with that blatantly do not like him and have nothing good to say about him,” he said.  

“It’s not a partnership in the true sense of what it was in 2010, and I don’t believe that it is going to materialise like that because of all of the events that took place,” he added.

Dr Mohammed also suggested that citizens are not inspired by discussions on local government platforms as conversations among both sides of the political divide appear to be centred on 2025 campaigns. He does not believe the country will embrace this.
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Moreover, he questioned the UNC head’s failure to on-board other parties contesting these polls.

“There are other political parties, for example, the Progressive Empowerment Party and the Re-United Farmers Alliance. That was something that should have been brokered to pull together all political parties that are contesting the elections. That should have been something that the UNC, through Mrs Persad-Bissessar, should have been on top of the ball with,” he said.  

Ragoonath: I can’t say what is his political acumen

Meanwhile, political analyst Dr Bishnu Ragoonath said he was unsure if 80-year-old Warner could amass the support he once did.  

“I am not sure since the ILP literally went dormant after the 2015 elections having not been able to win any seats. I cannot say with any surety as to what is the political acumen that Jack Warner will bring to any alliance at this point,” he said.    


Strange bedfellows indeed

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Re: UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby maj. tom » July 22nd, 2023, 9:37 am

ROFL UNC is better entertainment than the Ringling Brothers Circus. Is it that they need Jack money right now or something? Why he eh buy a lot of land and build a permanent UNC headquarters for them?

If anything this shows that the UNC plan is just to relax in Parliament, do some yap yap politicking every couple weeks and collect their salary and perks. That is the actual plan, and that is why local councillors had to cross over to get something done, and the reasons they gave were true.

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