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CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths - T&T did much better

Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2024, 5:53 pm

CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/08/21/cxc-reports-poor-regional-performance-64-fail-maths/


ABOUT two out of every three pupils who wrote CSEC maths in May/June failed the exam, according to figures stated for the region by the Caribbean Examinations Council (CXC) on August 20.

The CXC held a ceremony in Dominica to launch the results for CSEC and CAPE which pupils began to access online immediately afterwards.

CXC director of operations Dr Nicole Manning said the pass rate for CSEC Mathematics across the Caribbean was just 36 per cent of pupils.

She indicated the pass rate had been 43 per cent last year, up from 37 per cent in 2022 and 34 per cent in 2021, the latter the likely fallout of the pandemic.

Despite noting a slight rise in the percentage getting a grade one, up from eight to nine per cent of pupils over the past year, she said, "Overall, we have got to get out of this rut."

The next worst-performing subject area was CSEC Spanish, which was passed by only 50 per cent of pupils, one in two candidates. This reflected a progressive worsening from 59 per cent in 2021, 55 per cent in 2022 and 54 per cent last year, down to a current 50 per cent.

Manning also noted a "very surprising" pass rate of just 58 per cent for integrated science.

CXC CEO/registrar Dr Wayne Wesley gave figures to show in the region, 94 per cent of pupils failed to get five subjects or more, a feat achieved by only six per cent. Fewer than one in 20 pupils got five passes inclusive of English and maths, he added, indicating just 4.9 per cent of the cohort. :shock:

He lamented that since 2018 each year, some 11,500 pupils did not fully matriculate and so would end up unemployed or under-employed. Manning said the overall of all these pupils shortfall was a negative effect on the region's competitiveness.

"So we are in very challenging times."

He said the CXC has commissioned a team to develop ideas to improve numeracy and literacy, inclusive of new inputs such as the use of artificial intelligence (AI) and targeted interventions.

"We need to give greater attention to English and maths.

"We have to sit down and address the serious problem of human capital, impacting the region."

Newsday sought to find out how TT pupils performed relative to the Caribbean average.

Education Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly said she was still mulling figures.

"I'm currently in Barbados on a work assignment. I received the statistics today and will peruse."

Likewise, Chief Education Officer Dr Peter Smith said he was still processing information.

A staff member at St Joseph's Convent, Port of Spain told Newsday the school had not received the results.

President's College principal Hardat Singh told Newsday he did not yet have all pupils' results, just a few.

"Results just came out. Our students did relatively well.

"I have not contacted other schools to see what they got."

He said his school had been in touch with its top students, who indicated their success, including a 13-year-old who had passed seven CSEC subjects.

Maths tutor Azeem Hassanali of Hassan's Maths Lessons said the 36 per cent pass rate for maths was very low.

He said the maths pass rate in past years has fluctuated around 50 per cent, sometimes slightly above or below.

"The exam did come difficult. Question two on paper two was a very difficult question for that level.

"Children spent too much time doing that question and it would have demotivated them in the other questions and taken away time from these questions."

Hassanali said that question entailed critical thinking which may not be taught in most classrooms, combining factorisation with the calculation of a perimeter.

"We need to revamp the system and how we recruit teachers."

Tabaquite MP Anita Haynes-Alleyne told Newsday she was awaiting the local results but gave her preliminary view based on the regional results.

"The results are very, very concerning."

She said for a pupil to be considered employable, society requires they have a full CSEC certificate including English and maths. She said for just 4.9 per cent of pupils to achieve this was alarming.

Suggesting the CSEC performance translated into fewer pupils going on to do CAPE exams, Haynes-Alleyne, "Let us see it as a wake-up call."

She said policymakers have had a sufficient "grace period" for blaming the covid19 pandemic.

"Come up with something new. We are required to get the solution for them (pupils)."

Haynes-Alleyne said those who head the sector must come up with solutions.

"We await the specifics for TT.

"If it is that TT is mirroring the region, we will definitely have a lot of work to do."

St Augustine Girls' High School (SAGHS) acting principal Bonnie Bissoon-Gosine told Newsday she found the results announced by the CXC strange.

"Since 11 am, we have been getting calls from parents telling us how great their daughters did. Our school tends to be a little different. All reports so far are grade one in English and maths. This tends to be representative of our students.

"We anticipate most back in sixth form."

Bissoon-Gosine commended her pupils' teachers and parents.

"Teachers work remarkably hard with our girls. We aim for the stars and expect excellence."

Bissoon-Gosine expected good grades in maths due to a lot of practice, with pupils doing as many exercises of calculation as possible.

Maths tutor and author Dr Fayad Ali told Newsday he had not yet got feedback on this year's results in TT, but offered some insights.

"Statistically through the years, the pass rate in TT generally exceeds the rest of the Caribbean.

"For TT's pass rate in maths, I can assure that you will see a higher percentage than 36 per cent."

Ali estimated the pass rate in maths in TT would be "about ten per cent higher than the rest of the Caribbean excluding TT."

He said after easing the difficulty of the exam paper some years ago, CXC had since tried to "toughen it up a bit."

However, he also cautioned, "I don't think the Maths paper was as cruel as people try to make out."

Sharing his years of experience, he said pupils usually do better in simple multiple choice papers rather than structured questions, the latter which require a certain language skill and analysis for pupils to be able to interpret what is being asked.

For example, if a question said a car starts from rest that meant its original speed was zero, he explained.

"Teach the child how to think and they can solve any question," Ali advised.
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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2024, 5:56 pm

so much students failng and can't get 5 passes- these children going to be bandits when they grow up?

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Postby sMASH » August 21st, 2024, 6:41 pm

It will improve when they don't need to remember Nina pinta and Santa Maria ... Jess hadda Remeber pan is we culture

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby pugboy » August 21st, 2024, 6:54 pm

could play pan

redmanjp wrote:so much students failng and can't get 5 passes- these children going to be bandits when they grow up?

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Postby MaxPower » August 21st, 2024, 7:05 pm

I get a 3 in Maths..

Getting a distinction would’ve done nothing for me other than been taken to Pizza hut for the $100 all you can eat back in the day.

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Postby mamoo_pagal » August 21st, 2024, 7:42 pm

redmanjp wrote:so much students failng and can't get 5 passes- these children going to be bandits when they grow up?
Prime candidates for universal basic income, from a loving, caring government that's "saving" them.

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby pugboy » August 21st, 2024, 7:47 pm

they blaming it on covid lockdown generation

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Postby redmanjp » August 21st, 2024, 11:21 pm

pugboy wrote:they blaming it on covid lockdown generation


explainable for 2021-22 but last year it was actually higher at 43% -u would expect that as come further out from the pandemic it would get better like it did from 2021-2023 but the opposite happened this year- so cant blame it on that.

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby sMASH » August 22nd, 2024, 8:37 am

redmanjp wrote:so much students failng and can't get 5 passes- these children going to be bandits when they grow up?
More reason for more road blocks and expanding the police numbers, and militarizing them further

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby pugboy » August 22nd, 2024, 8:52 am

how much passes to become a pohleece or army?

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Postby sMASH » August 22nd, 2024, 9:17 am

pugboy wrote:how much passes to become a pohleece or army?
From earla it seems like none.. They just need ah vibe

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Postby zoom rader » August 22nd, 2024, 9:56 am

pugboy wrote:how much passes to become a pohleece or army?
On Paper its 5 cxc

But in the real world its who know you. Its always a family members getting other families in.

The army has in the pass defended its position of employing people who could barely read and write. Their excuse was they need people that know the bush.

Ask mero he will tell u

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Postby MaxPower » August 22nd, 2024, 10:01 am

pugboy wrote:how much passes to become a pohleece or army?


Has to be a high number.

Our officers are well spoken especially when they ask me where i works and if i am aware of what i did was doing.

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby fokhan_96 » August 22nd, 2024, 10:11 am

Imagine the majority of the voters in this country fail maths and English... this will explain a lot.

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Postby Les Bain » August 22nd, 2024, 10:26 am

I am bothered by this on many levels.

Before debating on the quality of education regionally, there are many avenues available to modern students.

Back in the day my wife was frustrated doing one module for her degree. Was real high level mathematics. The lecturer's accent made it difficult to follow and the available texts were't helping either. A professor from a fancy foreign university had a YouTube channel which I recommended to her and she eh hoard info; she shared it with the class. Man had a wall of mechanized whiteboards to complete a question. Real high level maths, like I said. She and the students who accessed the channel wound up ranging between thriving or at least not failing.

YouTube, computers and tablets are easily accessible now compared to then. Same energy the youths using to share porn, student fights and trinibad dotishness can be applied to scouring the internet for resources available to subjects with universal theories, such as Maths. Localized things like Social Studies and History is another matter.

One of our family was so in love with gunta lifestyle socialization, all the extra lessons eh help. This year they wrote whatever the O Levels now called and barely managed one pass. Are the modern distractions that powerful?

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Postby redmanjp » August 22nd, 2024, 10:53 am

ok, at least T&T did much better -especially in passing 5 subjects - 45% compared to a shocking 4.9% regionally

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/08/22/gadsby-dolly-trinidad-and-tobago-outdid-region-at-cxc/

EDUCATION Minister Dr Nyan Gadsby-Dolly on August 21 published figures that suggested pupils from TT have surpassed the dismal 36 per cent pass rate across the Caribbean in CSEC Maths.

Her ministry's press release did not state the maths pass rate for TT.

However, the statement said 58 per cent of pupils passed five subjects and 45 per cent passed five subjects, including maths and English.

This meant that the number passing maths lay somewhere between 45 to 58 per cent.

It cannot be ascertained whether the difference between 45 and 58 per cent was due to pupils failing maths, English or both.

The number of TT pupils getting a full certificate of five passes, including English and maths – 45 per cent – greatly exceeds the Caribbean average of 4.9 per cent disclosed by Caribbean Examinations Council (CXC) CEO/registrar Dr Wayne Wesley at a CXC function in Dominica on August 20.

Likewise, the 58 per cent of TT pupils getting five subjects exceeds the regional average of six per cent.

The statement listed the number of pupils passing five subjects at CSEC, including maths and English, in recent years.

This was 55 per cent (2020), 47 per cent (2021), 43 per cent (2022), 51 per cent (2023), and 45 per cent now. The number getting five subjects (but not both maths and English) was 61 per cent (2020), 54 per cent (2021), 53 per cent (2022), 58 per cent (2023) and 58 per cent this year.

The statement said 21,713 TT pupils wrote CSEC – 11,755 females and 9,958 males – in 34 subjects.

"In 2024, there were 114,332 subject entries written, which represents an increase from the previous year with 112,748 subject entries.

"Passing grades (Grades I, II and III) were obtained in 67.62 per cent (77,306) of the subject entries compared with 67.79 per cent (76,430) in 2023."

Pass rates were higher in TT this year in 17 subjects compared to last year.

The statement said some 95 per cent of subject entries in the CAPE exam had passed, compared to 96 per cent last year.

This result was comprised of 96 per cent passing CAPE unit one subjects and 93 per cent passing CAPE unit two, compared to 95 per cent last year.

At CAPE unit one level, high marks of over 90 per cent were achieved in 27 subjects out of 32 on offer.

For CAPE unit two, grades of over 90 per cent were attained in 29 subjects out of 32.
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Postby MaxPower » August 22nd, 2024, 11:03 am

Les Bain wrote:I am bothered by this on many levels.

Before debating on the quality of education regionally, there are many avenues available to modern students.

Back in the day my wife was frustrated doing one module for her degree. Was real high level mathematics. The lecturer's accent made it difficult to follow and the available texts were't helping either. A professor from a fancy foreign university had a YouTube channel which I recommended to her and she eh hoard info; she shared it with the class. Man had a wall of mechanized whiteboards to complete a question. Real high level maths, like I said. She and the students who accessed the channel wound up ranging between thriving or at least not failing.

YouTube, computers and tablets are easily accessible now compared to then. Same energy the youths using to share porn, student fights and trinibad dotishness can be applied to scouring the internet for resources available to subjects with universal theories, such as Maths. Localized things like Social Studies and History is another matter.

One of our family was so in love with gunta lifestyle socialization, all the extra lessons eh help. This year they wrote whatever the O Levels now called and barely managed one pass. Are the modern distractions that powerful?


Excellent post, i read it 3 times.

I agree, too many distractions and wasted energy.

We have allowed social media to be too easily accessible to the younger generation.

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths

Postby dogg » August 22nd, 2024, 11:39 am

There was a Pizza Hut in Guyana in those days?

MaxPower wrote:I get a 3 in Maths..

Getting a distinction would’ve done nothing for me other than been taken to Pizza hut for the $100 all you can eat back in the day.

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Postby pugboy » August 22nd, 2024, 12:20 pm

she not saying what our maths pass rate was?

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Postby redmanjp » August 22nd, 2024, 12:25 pm

pugboy wrote:she not saying what our maths pass rate was?


cant say exactly but the data says

However, the statement said 58 per cent of pupils passed five subjects and 45 per cent passed five subjects, including maths and English.

This meant that the number passing maths lay somewhere between 45 to 58 per cent.

It cannot be ascertained whether the difference between 45 and 58 per cent was due to pupils failing maths, English or both.


so we can say at least 45% passed math AND english- perhaps more than that passed both subjects but got less than 5 passes

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Postby alfa » August 22nd, 2024, 12:29 pm

zoom rader wrote:
pugboy wrote:how much passes to become a pohleece or army?
On Paper its 5 cxc

But in the real world its who know you. Its always a family members getting other families in.

The army has in the pass defended its position of employing people who could barely read and write. Their excuse was they need people that know the bush.

Ask mero he will tell u

But what does the average urban youth growing up in the hot spot areas know about bush? Closest thing to a wild animal they ever see is common fowl

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Postby zoom rader » August 22nd, 2024, 12:45 pm

dogg wrote:There was a Pizza Hut in Guyana in those days?

MaxPower wrote:I get a 3 in Maths..

Getting a distinction would’ve done nothing for me other than been taken to Pizza hut for the $100 all you can eat back in the day.
Oh Skunt , I fogot max is Guyanese

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Postby MaxPower » August 22nd, 2024, 12:52 pm

dogg wrote:There was a Pizza Hut in Guyana in those days?

MaxPower wrote:I get a 3 in Maths..

Getting a distinction would’ve done nothing for me other than been taken to Pizza hut for the $100 all you can eat back in the day.


Oh skont boddy,

Pizza Hut in Curepe, you eh go know about that special doggo.

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Re: CXC reports poor regional performance: 64% fail maths - T&T did much better

Postby zoom rader » August 22nd, 2024, 12:53 pm

Guys this is two fold problem for African kids

1. Teachers giving poor work

2. PNM cultured parents that dont care about their kids education.


How is it that, Injun, Chinese and 1% getting the education .

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Postby pugboy » August 22nd, 2024, 1:42 pm

corrected

zoom rader wrote:Guys this is two fold problem for African kids

1. Teachers giving poor work

2. PNM cultured parent that dont care about their kids education.


How is it that, Injun, Chinese and 1% getting the education .

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Postby alfa » August 22nd, 2024, 1:46 pm

pugboy wrote:corrected

zoom rader wrote:Guys this is two fold problem for African kids

1. Teachers giving poor work

2. PNM cultured parent that dont care about their kids education.


How is it that, Injun, Chinese and 1% getting the education .

Correct, a culture of hard work is the key. But I'm not going down that rabbit hole with these same people again. Just check the SEA 2021 Results thread and you'll see this topic beaten to death already

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Postby sMASH » August 22nd, 2024, 2:10 pm

All over the world dies fail mats

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Postby ky1e » August 22nd, 2024, 2:12 pm

More emphasis on critical thinking and problem-solving skills could help.

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Postby triniterribletim » August 22nd, 2024, 3:43 pm

Maths was hard back in the day, I had to get copious amounts of extra lessons and I barely got a 2 in Maths and miraculously passed Add Maths, cause I was fully expecting to fail. I wouldn't have even done Add Maths if I wasn't forced to take it to be able to take the other subjects that I was actually interested in.

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Postby redmanjp » August 22nd, 2024, 4:08 pm

O level maths was easy for me and i got a 1 but the add maths was hard. had to repeat to pass add maths in order to do A level Math and i think Physics. A level Math was hard and started taking lessons but my then crush from Holy Name convent was in the same lessons so i wasn't concentrating - lol and got an O grade which is the equivalent of a pass at O level but fail at A level. when i did a CIS degree at SBCS also failed the Maths course in it but had enough credits to get my degree with honours.

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