Tech Thread - Nissan Frontier, Navara, Pathfinder.

[sliderz1]

i assume some sort of siphoning is occurring

[gready123456]

So the strangest thing happened to me today . was parked on a hill with half tank of diesel for about a hour then jumped in the van started her up went in to reverse about 6 meters reversing down the hill that van stumbled and cut off its a auto . tried restarting but did not work . started to prime the fuel filter eventually got her to start went up the hill a little then back to reverse gear and stumbled and cut off again . after some more priming got her to start go up and down the hill with no problems any idea what might have caused this ??

OH i have been parked on this hill with under quarter tank before with no problems , may be filter or clogged fuel lines

THis has happened with a few navaras previously... I believe Biggy82 had addressed this problem with Navara's not starting/hard starting while on a hill before. Will have to do a serach through the thread to find it.

I experienced that before as well but it was because I had put in a wrong primary fuel filter (the long skinny one on the right side of the engine bay by the fuse box) - the stupid parts place had sold me a filter from a TD27 which looked exactly the same as the YD25 filter..... whenver I reversed out of my *very slight incline* driveway, the frigging thing would stall and hard start.


BUt again, all that was self-inflicted.... YMMV - try looking up biggy's post on why navara's tend to cough and cackle when on a hill starting up.

Problem still occuring on inclines

was told the filters are the same and i have a new one infact the filter worked well for 10k+ before the i started getting this problem , i will change the filter some time soon and see if that helps will look in to the TD27 filter

[sliderz1]

i interchange with filters from the QD32 engine D22 frontier on the Nav sometimes, i never had this problem.

I would like to think that you may have a loose line somewhere causing siphoning or general backflow of fuel

[Captain Awesome]

Just to share. On my Frontier ZD30 4x4 I observe some rattling from the rear of the vehicle when going over especially bumpy terrain at a certain speed. Quite by accident one day I was playing with the metal collapsible arms that keep the tailgate up when opened and they make the exact same sound I hear.

Apparently, when they are folded when the tailgate is closed, they are rattling against the body of the truck itself, causing the noise.

[Ted_v2]

Anyone ever converted from manual to automatic in a frontier? I never saw it done locally

[sliderz1]

saw a high end 4x2 that was converted from YD25 + gearbox to ZD30ddti with automatic that was sourced from an E25

gready123.... any updates?

[nissan/nothing]

Saw one of the 4x2 high end converted from the 2.5 to QD32 and tranny from a E24/25

[gready123456]

saw a high end 4x2 that was converted from YD25 + gearbox to ZD30ddti with automatic that was sourced from an E25

gready123.... any updates?

just drained the water traps then prime the filters used two bottles of amsoil diesel concerate and seems ok for now i will change the filter on the weekend will take some pics of what i find

[gready123456]

so the sensor on the sediment filter was crossthread and sucking some air i think that was my problem i took the end cap from my secondary filter (old one ) and caped the sediment filter with that i need to replace the sensor N&M sells the whole assembly not the sensor alone and its 3400 anyone knows where i can get a sensor ??

[gready123456]

so the sensor on the sediment filter was crossthread and sucking some air i think that was my problem i took the end cap from my secondary filter (old one ) and caped the sediment filter with that i need to replace the sensor N&M sells the whole assembly not the sensor alone and its 3400 anyone knows where i can get a sensor ??

ok so i just reached home and checked out the damage to the sensor (had my mech check out van as i dont have to time to try and fix it ) . I cant see any ruined threads on the sensor but my mech said the sensor was not fitting properly on the filter it was not fitting snug ,humm this filter did not have yd2.5 on the box its a nissan original but its has td-27 i am now wondering if this is the problem the parts place keep saying its the same filter and it will work but i am having problems

[vickyexp]

so the sensor on the sediment filter was crossthread and sucking some air i think that was my problem i took the end cap from my secondary filter (old one ) and caped the sediment filter with that i need to replace the sensor N&M sells the whole assembly not the sensor alone and its 3400 anyone knows where i can get a sensor ??

ok so i just reached home and checked out the damage to the sensor (had my mech check out van as i dont have to time to try and fix it ) . I cant see any ruined threads on the sensor but my mech said the sensor was not fitting properly on the filter it was not fitting snug ,humm this filter did not have yd2.5 on the box its a nissan original but its has td-27 i am now wondering if this is the problem the parts place keep saying its the same filter and it will work but i am having problems

I had a similar issue with my ZD3.0 Frontier and I was using a Sakura filter, lucky for me my mech has a parts shop and just provided a new replacement. He said that sometime they get some bad batches but you can expect that with Sakura, and not original filters.

[lighthammer]

Sakura doesn't have a sterling track record, iirc a bad batch had gotten away and hit store shelves sometime last year. Some guys were complaining about fuel filter problems last year and it was Sakura. Seems to be a hit and miss with them.

[vickyexp]

true, they're not to be trusted,
I only use original filters on my Nav back home

[Captain Awesome]

I had the engine light come on just like that one day. My mech disconnected the fuel sensor and said that something wrong with the sensor itself (ZD30T). Since then the light has not returned. I'm also using Sakura filter. Is it possible that the issue lies with the filter or could it really be the sensor?

[car]

Hey ,
I got a problem for about a 6 months now. A 2003 frontier with a yd25 engine.
The vehicle takes about 5-10 seconds cranking time before it starts. It does that at random times especially when parked up outside for 45mins or more. But it always starts in a 1 on mornings in my garage. I notice when I change the oil the problem will cease for about a 2 weeks and start over. The same ting will happen when I change the fuel filter. I've run scans on it multiple times and it does not pick up anything faults.
I've change air filter ,oil and filter,fuel filter, run scans multipe times, use treatment in the fuel tank, bleed the injectors 2 times. not sure what else to do. It will always start perfect in my garage on mornings when the engine is coldest so that puzzles me. I'm thinking it's a fuel issue.Any suggestions ?

[Gionova]

Hi guys, I have a few question. Nice statements by all of you. My question is that I was considering the HiLux and the Navara as an option for a van. I know the HiLux boasts long term reliability but I have always loved the specs on the Navara for the price and I have been to both dealerships to check them out. I have not test driven any of the two but I drove my cousin's 4x4 Navara a few times before and it is awesome.

My main question is if I were to purchase the Navara from N&M, is it possible to continue to service my own van on my own timing and not carry it back to the dealership to avoid the high charges for doing almost nothing? Also because of the cost, I wanted the Fully Loaded 4x2 but I am buying the van to keep for about 6-10 years if possible. Because of that I was wondering if I should just pay the extra for the 4x4 and get it over with. Thinking that I would get the most use out of the van in the long run if I get the 4x4.

Any light shed will be appreciated, thx again...

[sliderz1]

Hey ,
I got a problem for about a 6 months now. A 2003 frontier with a yd25 engine.
The vehicle takes about 5-10 seconds cranking time before it starts. It does that at random times especially when parked up outside for 45mins or more. But it always starts in a 1 on mornings in my garage. I notice when I change the oil the problem will cease for about a 2 weeks and start over. The same ting will happen when I change the fuel filter. I've run scans on it multiple times and it does not pick up anything faults.
I've change air filter ,oil and filter,fuel filter, run scans multipe times, use treatment in the fuel tank, bleed the injectors 2 times. not sure what else to do. It will always start perfect in my garage on mornings when the engine is coldest so that puzzles me. I'm thinking it's a fuel issue.Any suggestions ?

compression test

[car]

I took the glow plugs out and it was covered with soot. Cleaned and tested it . The van starts fine now if I allow the glow plugs to run for about 8 second. Do the glow plugs degrade after time?

[sliderz1]

yeah they do, swap them out for new ones

from the explanation you gave of the symptoms, i'd have 2nd guessed it.

Glad you got through.

[sliderz1]

so it is about time i post some steps where i removed my steering wheel.

I did it some months ago as i previously mentioned but i've only now found time to gather the pics and do a write up. The first time i did it was on the R51 Pathfinder (no pics but had cruise control, volume controls etc) which shared a similar steering to the D40. Before i did the Pathfinder i searched the web for a DIY tutorial and tried to find a guide to help in the process. Through some through searching i couldn't find any telling how to remove the steering for the Pathfinder nor the D40 Navara/Frontier. In short i searched other types of Nissan vehicles and found a vague explanation on how it was done for a 350Z with a similar type wheel where i adapted the info and found it helpful to my cause.


what you will need; 3/4 inch socket, 2 flat head/blade screw drivers, a phillip screw driver
and helping pair on hands optional

be sure to disconnect the battery poles and kill any residual voltage by turning the ignition (as if to start) after to ensure no corruption or false signals while the airbag and any other attachments that may be disconnected in the process.
Get a check light on and you're gonna have a bad day

remove the plastic from around the steering column as you need to expose and disconnect the airbag, horn and signal light sockets (+cruise control and volume control if so equipped). There are 2 screws holding the lower plastic and clips that hold the top. The sockets are hidden between the column and the lower plastic.

behind the steering there are holes covered by simple clipped on covers
**insert pic here**

this is a forwarded step (after i took out the front) where you can see the mechanisms that actually hold the front. Here you can see the holes (from the front) and the arrows indicate where the screw driver enters to press against the pins releasing the front. It is easier having 2 screw drivers pressing each pin simultaneously and a helping hand to pull the front piece forward when it is released.


after some kicking up, it did come out


pulling the front piece forward you could now see the airbag connections and horn wiring


after this i used a 3/4 inch socket+ rachet to remove the the wheel itself, couple tugs at it and i managed to get it free


this is what i looks like without the wheel, the black part rotates with the wheel IIRC and is connected to the signal/light levers


with all the assemblies removed, the bare coloumn


last time on the Pathfinder (had over 350 000kms on it) the bushing at the top was worn, i took the preventative to grease mine.

all finished and re-assembled



hopefully this helps someone else out there, i think i cover the hard parts and included every keyword i would have searched for

[lighthammer]

My main question is if I were to purchase the Navara from N&M, is it possible to continue to service my own van on my own timing and not carry it back to the dealership to avoid the high charges for doing almost nothing?

I've been doing that since 2011. Last thing I did was change the front disc pads on my own. Before that was change the front gearbox seal (my mech helped me with that one)
Never looked back since (except maybe for parts....)

Also because of the cost, I wanted the Fully Loaded 4x2 but I am buying the van to keep for about 6-10 years if possible. Because of that I was wondering if I should just pay the extra for the 4x4 and get it over with. Thinking that I would get the most use out of the van in the long run if I get the 4x4.

Any light shed will be appreciated, thx again...

You might never use the 4x4 option (maybe for the beach or at a river lime or something) - but you'll get better resale value for the vehicle later on down the line.

[droppa]

fellas, this weekend we did a 2" body lift and 2" suspension lift to a navara, for the fitment of some 285/70 Maxxis Bighorns on some ORM 17x9 wheels, it looked mean mean mean after......


working on the navara was quite a challenge, but all in all we got tru quite well, the owner is a tuner and ill ask him for permission to throw up a few pics for u guys....

anyone interested in doing similar lifts can contact me via pm for more info......

[vickyexp]

question for you guys,
I'm considering selling my Nav because it's not getting any use and won't be for quite a while. I'm afraid that when I get to start using it again, I get quite a few problems because of the lack of use. It's already been parked up for 4 mts and may have to be there for about 8 more.
Here's the specs:
Navara 4x4 manual, leather interior & 5 disc changer,
completely stock from the firm with tint, tray liner & GPS tracking.
Currently doing about 16,000km, all service done by NM to date.

If I decide to sell, what will be a good asking price?

[Ted_v2]

195-205.

[kimolal]

fellas, i need some advice. My nav needs tyres. I thinking about the michelin MT/s. what you fellas think? I have the 4x4 but i rarely offroad and ride quality is most important to me. I find the Nav does ride too hard so I gonna change tyres and see. I fed up complain to massey all they do is test drive and say that is how all Navs ride. Please help, If i cant get a tolerable ride after this tyre change I feel i sellin it yes. HELP NEEDED!
Also the one I test drove before purchase ride 100 times better than the one that was given to me.

[gready123456]

fellas, i need some advice. My nav needs tyres. I thinking about the michelin MT/s. what you fellas think? I have the 4x4 but i rarely offroad and ride quality is most important to me. I find the Nav does ride too hard so I gonna change tyres and see. I fed up complain to massey all they do is test drive and say that is how all Navs ride. Please help, If i cant get a tolerable ride after this tyre change I feel i sellin it yes. HELP NEEDED!
Also the one I test drove before purchase ride 100 times better than the one that was given to me.

firestone destinations 265-70 -16 M.Ramrattan vistabilla 1250 per tire cant go wrong a very good AT tire been using it almost a year now and put over 35k on them and it has not ware down much and its a smooth and silent ride form them

[Aaron 2NR]

If its comfort tou are looking for get the toyos. The stock dunlop tires ride like crap.

[kimolal]

Ok fellas thanks for the replies. 1250 a tyre is really good, the michelins that i was gonna buy costing around 2500 a tyre. Aron whats the avg price for toyos and where can i get them? And should i go for a wider tyre or stay stock? as i said before comfort is my #1.

[Aaron 2NR]

Mileage Mack or wheel wizard. Not sure the cost but shud be around 1300+vat

[Shock Pulse]

the new shipment of navaras coming with Yokohama Geolandar tyres, with chrome trim ac controls, chrome door handles inside and more features on the odometer (average speed, average fuel remaining in distance km to name a few) Got mine in the second to last week in July. 4x4 Automatic