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I can only speak of my experience but I had a Carrier 2T inverter installed mid 2019 and have had no regrets. Cools and dehumidifies comfortably. It is extremely quiet. The condenser in particular, you wouldn't know if was on unless you went directly up next to it. I tend to have the same preference as you WRT known brands.carluva wrote:Need some advice.
I have a 24000 but Lennox unit as pictured. It's about 5 years old and for about 4 of those years it never worked as expected. Blowing too cold, too warm, icing up regularly, developed leaks on the coils, needed to be regassed.... Right now it's blowing cool and not cold regardless of the set temperature.
I'm thinking to replace it. On average, it runs from about 8pm to 8am and perhaps a couple of hours in the day. So figure 15 hours in average.
What will you recommend to replace with? The room size is about 14 ft X 21 ft with 9 feet ceiling.
I'd like to replace with a good unit that will last for more than 7 years. I am one who believes that the known brands, Trane, Daikin, Carrier, Rheem, Panasonic, etc. tend to be better but am willing to consider other brands if it fits the bill. Also, I'm looking at inverter units if it makes sense.
What is recommended?
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carluva wrote:Need some advice.
I have a 24000 but Lennox unit as pictured. It's about 5 years old and for about 4 of those years it never worked as expected. Blowing too cold, too warm, icing up regularly, developed leaks on the coils, needed to be regassed.... Right now it's blowing cool and not cold regardless of the set temperature.
I'm thinking to replace it. On average, it runs from about 8pm to 8am and perhaps a couple of hours in the day. So figure 15 hours in average.
What will you recommend to replace with? The room size is about 14 ft X 21 ft with 9 feet ceiling.
I'd like to replace with a good unit that will last for more than 7 years. I am one who believes that the known brands, Trane, Daikin, Carrier, Rheem, Panasonic, etc. tend to be better but am willing to consider other brands if it fits the bill. Also, I'm looking at inverter units if it makes sense.
What is recommended?
Nerve.... You're up IMG_20200301_102341606.jpeg
nervewrecker wrote:First off, red vevo, the lennox units we get here are made in china.
WRT lennox and daikin units having smaller compressors and lower rated capacity, the capacity is true and not exaggerated unlike other brands.
I had made an issue over lennox and daikin having 11200 btu compressors in the 12000 btu units among others but literature arrived from the engineers to represent their claims that it can do rated capacity.
FUN FACT: Lennox and Daikin have their own engineers that design their units. There are little tid bits here and there that gives them the edge over others.
I had discontinued the line after opening the systems and seeing inside but reintroducing them after ole talking with the manager Friday.
Secondly, I only getting back on my feet this week. Have to get my stitches out and clear up the back log with the guys.carluva wrote:Need some advice.
I have a 24000 but Lennox unit as pictured. It's about 5 years old and for about 4 of those years it never worked as expected. Blowing too cold, too warm, icing up regularly, developed leaks on the coils, needed to be regassed.... Right now it's blowing cool and not cold regardless of the set temperature.
I'm thinking to replace it. On average, it runs from about 8pm to 8am and perhaps a couple of hours in the day. So figure 15 hours in average.
What will you recommend to replace with? The room size is about 14 ft X 21 ft with 9 feet ceiling.
I'd like to replace with a good unit that will last for more than 7 years. I am one who believes that the known brands, Trane, Daikin, Carrier, Rheem, Panasonic, etc. tend to be better but am willing to consider other brands if it fits the bill. Also, I'm looking at inverter units if it makes sense.
What is recommended?
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I can get you Trane, by order only. price is like $9k for a 12000 btu, but....12 years warranty.
The inverter units are not units they can go to china and say they want x'y and z cheaped out on. They are made to operate between certain parameters and cannot be modified to do otherwise, so you get what you pay for.
I'd say pick your poison between lennox, daikin, gree, innovair and carrier inverter units.
Leaks develop on coils when the systems aren't vacuumed for the removal of all air from the lines. Water from water vapor reacts with the oil forming an acid that breaks down the coils from inside and the compressor insulation windings.
I vaccume all new systems to 500 microns an under or no valves arent opened.
The talk that the cheaper units fail faster or develop leaks is nonsense. I stayed clear of cheaper brands because they always have leaks.
The man that teach me this work have a GE unit home. A brand known for problems and failure with burn compressor and leaks on coils. Not one f**king problem and its been years,
Why? because he follow procedure and not shortcut like the men who hustling to make a change by flipping the cheapest they can find.
Third, beware of fake units on the market.
Doing a job for a friend, possibly a tuner and the neighbour come across to ask if we can service the units. I quote according to size of unit. He tell me is one size and I doubt him. What tipped me off is the tag in the wrong place, then the shell being the wrong shell. He told the tuner he paying plenty for his units and his units are sold at an affordable price.
An investigation has been launched into it so I cant say anymore right now. Its a popular place (not neil kool, neil units are legit stuff).
carluva wrote:NR8, who did you get the unit from and who did the installation?
NR8 wrote:carluva wrote:NR8, who did you get the unit from and who did the installation?
Atlantic Air distributes the Carrier inverter and can install for you. I have my own technician who supplied and installed it. PM me for the contact info if you wish.
Yes they are.NR8 wrote:carluva wrote:NR8, who did you get the unit from and who did the installation?
Atlantic Air distributes the Carrier inverter and can install for you. I have my own technician who supplied and installed it. PM me for the contact info if you wish.
nervewrecker wrote:Wasn't recommending Trane though. Just saying I can source it.
Take this into consideration. Was speaking to a client some time back. Was admiring his lancer. Said that's his knockabout vehicle. He had other cars (can't say what or I may end up in the lawsuit) that are way better. But when you need a part it parked up in the firm cuz you can't get a part. Lancer parts easy to find vs what he had.
I'd love to have Trane at home. But if a blower motor fails where I getting one? 90% of the units here share the same parts. I jack out parts from one brand and Jack it into another brand because I know boards are the same in some, sensors are the same etc. Ofc some men won't tell you that. How will they sell you the original part for a bigger markup?
You deduct from that what you will?
Now seeing this.carluva wrote:So in light of my original question, what will you recommend?nervewrecker wrote:Wasn't recommending Trane though. Just saying I can source it.
Take this into consideration. Was speaking to a client some time back. Was admiring his lancer. Said that's his knockabout vehicle. He had other cars (can't say what or I may end up in the lawsuit) that are way better. But when you need a part it parked up in the firm cuz you can't get a part. Lancer parts easy to find vs what he had.
I'd love to have Trane at home. But if a blower motor fails where I getting one? 90% of the units here share the same parts. I jack out parts from one brand and Jack it into another brand because I know boards are the same in some, sensors are the same etc. Ofc some men won't tell you that. How will they sell you the original part for a bigger markup?
You deduct from that what you will?
carluva wrote:NR8 wrote:carluva wrote:NR8, who did you get the unit from and who did the installation?
Atlantic Air distributes the Carrier inverter and can install for you. I have my own technician who supplied and installed it. PM me for the contact info if you wish.
Check... Thanks
nervewrecker wrote:Now seeing this.carluva wrote:So in light of my original question, what will you recommend?nervewrecker wrote:Wasn't recommending Trane though. Just saying I can source it.
Take this into consideration. Was speaking to a client some time back. Was admiring his lancer. Said that's his knockabout vehicle. He had other cars (can't say what or I may end up in the lawsuit) that are way better. But when you need a part it parked up in the firm cuz you can't get a part. Lancer parts easy to find vs what he had.
I'd love to have Trane at home. But if a blower motor fails where I getting one? 90% of the units here share the same parts. I jack out parts from one brand and Jack it into another brand because I know boards are the same in some, sensors are the same etc. Ofc some men won't tell you that. How will they sell you the original part for a bigger markup?
You deduct from that what you will?
I'd say choose between the Gree, Lennox, Daikin, Carrier and Innovair.
Parts may not be interchangeable between them but I can confirm Wilog has parts for their Lennox and Daikin.
Gree has parts for their units.
Carrier has parts for their units and Continental has parts for their units.
I have a Daikin board on my space saver right now and had an issue with an innovair inverter once, they hand me a brand new board from behind the counter. Wasn't the board though, their techs misdiagnosed it and it was just a sensor. They don't send anyone to check over my work since.
If you want I can link a price list in a few. Ball park figures and you pick your poison.
NR8 wrote:carluva wrote:NR8 wrote:carluva wrote:NR8, who did you get the unit from and who did the installation?
Atlantic Air distributes the Carrier inverter and can install for you. I have my own technician who supplied and installed it. PM me for the contact info if you wish.
Check... Thanks
Sent. My price was discounted but did include supply of trunking, rubbertex and tape insulation, vacuuming with micron gauge, proper bending of lines, etc. I have been dealing with the supplier for a number of years with numerous split units and their technicians' work sometimes left a lot to be desired, hence my reason to use my own guy. YMMV. Just ensure that any third party installer is an authorized re-seller so you can get your full warranty. On that unit it was 1 year on entire unit and 5 years on compressor.
FYI from what I've heard, the Intense Cool being marketed by Achievors seems to be a Carrier clone. Maybe others with experience can verify. I wasn't willing to take the chance as they were still fairly new on the market at the time but others looking for a low cost option may be so inclined. The Carrier inverter has an optional WiFi dongle for $400, not sure if the Intense Cool has that feature.
carluva wrote:Yes please on the prices.
nervewrecker wrote:Ballpark figures for
Innovair, Daikin, Lennox and Carrier 24000 btu $6800.00 installed
Gree 24000 btu $7000.00 installed
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