Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

[zoom rader]

Only trini bad apples are those that vote for the red Goverment.

Illegal venes are criminals and scum.

Wanna come TT then do it the legal way, and submit your paper work .

Some of those paper work required as on the TT immigration website are.

Passport , Birth Cert
Medical Certificate
Police Record
5 Cxc or equivalent
Character References.

These illegal venes probably have none of those.

These are the people that Max will hire in favour of legal Nigerians/Africans

Send your White Paper Report on immigration entrance to the authorities - Red Gov't.

Then visit London and see how the influx of West Africans have affected the social dilemma .

Compare with how Venezuelans have assimilated in Trini Culture since THEY have been in Trinidad for decades e.g. the Parang Culture around Christmas etc., etc., even the Spanish Rice is in our culture

What is the contribution of your choice to our social dilemma ?

You have to understand that Spanish People are part of our social make up and have been here from day one .

What white paper?

Those are the TT Immigration Laws & requirements to get residency

The Laws are old and antiquated since colonial times - slavery Laws to keep mass at bay.

Trini with a quasi presence in the UN contributes zero with no progress on these Laws.

Venezuelans will soon leave Trini in masses and go to USA . They will succeed in their migration .

The NEW USA Home Land Security Boss is Hispanic - Cuban Heritage to be exact .

Do you know ANY Nigerian who has attained residency then citizenship in T&T ?

Why you think this exists ?

I could not care two 5hits about USA.

All the Spanish can go to USA , does not brother me one bit.

^^

And does the same attitude or response apply to your Nigerian GF immigration status who is a security guard at Max 's Super Grocery ?

Recently you seem NOT to care about LOADS ..

Once a person is legal in TT , I have no problem. Do the right thing and get you legal status in place.

I only came across two Nigerians that I know and they are legal. They both married trini citizens and are in gainful employment.

If employers are hiring illegal immigrants then they are scum and some sort penalty should be put in place to deal with employers that are not following the laws.

Most bussinessmen are scum and exploit illegals.

Then again immigration dept is lacking with law enforcements.

So what you are REALLY saying is that Nigerians marry Trini Citizens to be gainfully employed ?

Are the Nigerians Men marrying Trini women ?

Or Nigerian Women marrying Trini men ?

Is there is Nigerian Love Connection Website ?

There is a Venezuelan Love Connection Website but you have to be invited .

Not even a Nigerian will want you .

Why you so interested in mail order brides.

Dem will take you for a boobolee

[MaxPower]

Well MaxShitForBrains, if the government doesn't care when or how they come here illegally, please explain to us with your limited intelligence, why do you think they are detained and deported when found.

Reek,

A very good question and i would like to commend you for finally reading and understanding my post and now asking the right questions. It did take some effort from me, but i did promise to address the social issues that you have.

So to answer your question, i have edited my post to include the word “generally” as the Govt is clearly doing the bare minimum to address the illegal Venezuelan influx. Which means that you will get the one one cases of deportations but what about the other hundreds of thousands?

Why do they not seem to care?

Why aren’t the majority of citizens reporting them if their presence is rampant or the Govt encouraging them to do so?

^ it’s because of the positive effects that comes with it Reek. And dont tell me about cheap labour and exploitation, that was in the initial stages. The Venezuelans are now understanding the high demand for their service. They understand that Trinis want them, they understand that Trinis are gladly firing their lazy locals and hiring competent Venes. These Venes are now asking/receiving top dollar and are learning to say NO, and enough is enough. They are progressing and expanding.

I lie? Where are the Vene vagrants? Why do they all look so happy and settled? Where are the small numbers of jealous Trinis as yourself protesting?

Apart from this, a very important factor is the crime situation. Crime from Venes is LOW, not zero, but low.

Let us commend the TTPS for their hard work in weeding out the very few bad apples that we have.

[88sins]

Well MaxShitForBrains, if the government doesn't care when or how they come here illegally, please explain to us with your limited intelligence, why do you think they are detained and deported when found.

Reek,

A very good question and i would like to commend you for finally reading and understanding my post and now asking the right questions. It did take some effort from me, but i did promise to address the social issues that you have.

So to answer your question, i have edited my post to include the word “generally” as the Govt is clearly doing the bare minimum to address the illegal Venezuelan influx. Which means that you will get the one one cases of deportations but what about the other hundreds of thousands?

Why do they not seem to care?

Why aren’t the majority of citizens reporting them if their presence is rampant or the Govt encouraging them to do so?

^ it’s because of the positive effects that comes with it Reek. And dont tell me about cheap labour and exploitation, that was in the initial stages. The Venezuelans are now understanding the high demand for their service. They understand that Trinis want them, they understand that Trinis are gladly firing their lazy locals and hiring competent Venes. These Venes are now asking/receiving top dollar and are learning to say NO, and enough is enough. They are progressing and expanding.

I lie? Where are the Vene vagrants? Why do they all look so happy and settled? Where are the small numbers of jealous Trinis as yourself protesting?

Apart from this, a very important factor is the crime situation. Crime from Venes is LOW, not zero, but low.

Let us commend the TTPS for their hard work in weeding out the very few bad apples that we have.

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

[Ben_spanna]

So now Guaido is expressing his disgust and disappointment in Trinidads deporting of ILLEGAL immigrants back to their country.... it really never amazes me how conveniently Politicians are quick to cry for humanitarian rights yet , you of your own influence there cannot set up Border patrols and additional Guardia NAcional sea patrols to ensure that no more of your own people are smuggled across illegally here to be treated inhumanly.....

[88sins]

So now Guaido is expressing his disgust and disappointment in Trinidads deporting of ILLEGAL immigrants back to their country.... it really never amazes me how conveniently Politicians are quick to cry for humanitarian rights yet , you of your own influence there cannot set up Border patrols and additional Guardia NAcional sea patrols to ensure that no more of your own people are smuggled across illegally here to be treated inhumanly.....

politician logic

I right for doing wrong, and you wrong for telling me I doing wrong

[pugboy]

he just trying to drum up support on his side

[88sins]

he just trying to drum up support on his side

Yup, trying to loo & sound good for his people, & he got no problem in demonizing T&T for not taking in his garbage with a smile & instead launching it back at him to do so.

[MaxPower]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

[88sins]

tl, dr


better pray you make the man 300, I seeing like d road extra slow today.

[MaxPower]

tl, dr


better pray you make the man 300, I seeing like d road extra slow today.

You give up too easily Reek.

Get your facts together next time.

Feel free to reach out to me anytime.

[zoom rader]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

Max you have a colour problem bro.

You don't to have fear black folk ,

dem black women will rest it on you nice .

[alfa]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

Max you have a colour problem bro.

You don't to have fear black folk ,

dem black women will rest it on you nice .

Seems he ain't to fond of the indo ones either

[Kenjo]

tl, dr


better pray you make the man 300, I seeing like d road extra slow today.

Lol

[MaxPower]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

Max you have a colour problem bro.

You don't to have fear black folk ,

dem black women will rest it on you nice .

Zoom,

All i ask is just for once you stop thinking only about color.

Close your eyes and think productivity and then open them and tell me what you see.

You may see a brown Trini, a black Nigerian/Jamaican, a light skinned Guyanese or even a white Vene.

All i am saying is that the majority of good work tends to lean in favor of the Venezuelans who happen to be of a lighter shade.

Our focus is solely on work etiquette Zoom and Venezuelans are on top of the list.

If they were black, im sure there wouldn’t be an issue ent?

And thats exactly it...you Trinis hate Venezuelans because of their skin color....same goes for Chinese and Syrians.

[matr1x]

The real issue is that Trinidad has limited space, opportunities, and resources. These vene rats came through ill gotten means. Paying with drug money and ammunition which will one day be used to rob you and rape your kids. That is what the illegal venes are bringing.

Either they leave warm, or float back cold. That should be their choices

[MaxPower]

The real issue is that Trinidad has limited space, opportunities, and resources. These vene rats came through ill gotten means. Paying with drug money and ammunition which will one day be used to rob you and rape your kids. That is what the illegal venes are bringing.

Either they leave warm, or float back cold. That should be their choices

Slim,

If Trinidad has limited space, opportunities and resources as YOU say, then why are Trinis not willing to work?

And what “one day” are you speaking of? 500,000+ Venes here and where is the crime? I really dunno where these imaginary and fairytale ultimatums coming from. Is it a set date you predict when Venes will act up?

I think it just eating you up that the Venes are here and being immensely commended and supported by many and with minimal crime. Its like allyuh cant believe such a large number of people can enter a country and have such a positive impact.

I understand the aspect of illegal entry and we must trust in our Govt to prevent it. Ent the Govt working? Ent they deporting people? Nice well then consider every Venezuelan in T&T as legal and documented.

If you have a problem, contact the MP in your area.

[zoom rader]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

Max you have a colour problem bro.

You don't to have fear black folk ,

dem black women will rest it on you nice .

Zoom,

All i ask is just for once you stop thinking only about color.

Close your eyes and think productivity and then open them and tell me what you see.

You may see a brown Trini, a black Nigerian/Jamaican, a light skinned Guyanese or even a white Vene.

All i am saying is that the majority of good work tends to lean in favor of the Venezuelans who happen to be of a lighter shade.

Our focus is solely on work etiquette Zoom and Venezuelans are on top of the list.

If they were black, im sure there wouldn’t be an issue ent?

And thats exactly it...you Trinis hate Venezuelans because of their skin color....same goes for Chinese and Syrians.

I love all legal folk Max.

Jail and deportation for illegals.

[pugboy]

news say the recently deported load returned yesterday under guise of boat engine problems
showed lot of venes going to meet them at beach
and collected their belongings before taken into custody

seems like the ones here were in good contact with them to know when they were coming back

[De Dragon]

Seems that you like writing nonsensical erratic essays that I don't read.
gtk

go make the man money

Reek,

It bothers you so i know you read it. My essays speak of reality and i notice that the more i give you the facts bluntly and directly, the more you try to avoid it. You are not even man enough to answer my questions because you have no answer but thats fine.

Anyways, a question for you or anyone reading:

All these Guyanese, Nigerians, Jamaicans etc that entered here illegally and for so long, where are your cries to deport them? Where is the uproar, jealousy and hate towards them?

They are not a threat to you Trinis because they are just as lazy and not doing the work that allyuh refusing. Bottom line is that Trinis will be Trinis and fight down anyone even their own that is doing better than they are. That is utterly disgusting behavior.

So yeh, you Trinis CHOOSE which illegals to “welcome” and “accept” i.e - the ones that least affect allyuh.

Max you have a colour problem bro.

You don't to have fear black folk ,

dem black women will rest it on you nice .

No matter what colour they are, Mac Cax and his KFC tolee eh cutting it.

[RedVEVO]

Send your White Paper Report on immigration entrance to the authorities - Red Gov't.

Then visit London and see how the influx of West Africans have affected the social dilemma .

Compare with how Venezuelans have assimilated in Trini Culture since THEY have been in Trinidad for decades e.g. the Parang Culture around Christmas etc., etc., even the Spanish Rice is in our culture

What is the contribution of your choice to our social dilemma ?

You have to understand that Spanish People are part of our social make up and have been here from day one .

What white paper?

Those are the TT Immigration Laws & requirements to get residency

The Laws are old and antiquated since colonial times - slavery Laws to keep mass at bay.

Trini with a quasi presence in the UN contributes zero with no progress on these Laws.

Venezuelans will soon leave Trini in masses and go to USA . They will succeed in their migration .

The NEW USA Home Land Security Boss is Hispanic - Cuban Heritage to be exact .

Do you know ANY Nigerian who has attained residency then citizenship in T&T ?

Why you think this exists ?

I could not care two 5hits about USA.

All the Spanish can go to USA , does not brother me one bit.

^^

And does the same attitude or response apply to your Nigerian GF immigration status who is a security guard at Max 's Super Grocery ?

Recently you seem NOT to care about LOADS ..

Once a person is legal in TT , I have no problem. Do the right thing and get you legal status in place.

I only came across two Nigerians that I know and they are legal. They both married trini citizens and are in gainful employment.

If employers are hiring illegal immigrants then they are scum and some sort penalty should be put in place to deal with employers that are not following the laws.

Most bussinessmen are scum and exploit illegals.

Then again immigration dept is lacking with law enforcements.

So what you are REALLY saying is that Nigerians marry Trini Citizens to be gainfully employed ?

Are the Nigerians Men marrying Trini women ?

Or Nigerian Women marrying Trini men ?

Is there is Nigerian Love Connection Website ?

There is a Venezuelan Love Connection Website but you have to be invited .

Not even a Nigerian will want you .

Why you so interested in mail order brides.

Dem will take you for a boobolee

Nigerians as you admitted marry for TT Citizenship .

Is this banned in Trinidad ?

[RedVEVO]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

16 Venezuelan CHILDREN brought back to Trinidad .

Trinidad Authorities "dumped" them in the rough high seas !!!





https://guardian.co.tt/news/deportees-d ... 66f6a19dd6

[88sins]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

16 Venezuelan CHILDREN brought back to Trinidad .

Trinidad Authorities "dumped" them in the rough high seas !!!





https://guardian.co.tt/news/deportees-d ... 66f6a19dd6

Nothing more than a pack of lies.
When you jump off a vessel into the sea and throw yuh children to the same fate all in an effort to not get sent back where you come from cuz you fraid the jail they go put you and yuh children in, yuh go say and do literally ANYTHING in hopes they don't take you back where you come from.

[pugboy]

I like how stuey say it sinister that them venes come here with lawyers waiting ready to assist them with documents ready to file for them, yet when they catch them they does have no id or papers on them and he want to go after those who aiding and abetting them

clearly there is a network of support for these illegals

[De Dragon]

I like how stuey say it sinister that them venes come here with lawyers waiting ready to assist them with documents ready to file for them, yet when they catch them they does have no id or papers on them and he want to go after those who aiding and abetting them

clearly there is a network of support for these illegals

Goebbels remains an arse, but the law is the law, and deportation is a part of that legal process.

[bluefete]

This is what MaxP likes to see. Illegal immigrants entering T&T.

They have their own cameraman - in the white shirt. Excellent propaganda.

Not so, Max?




https://www.facebook.com/10004556265928 ... 6567893764

[88sins]

There is a huge network of support, and almost every vene that here and still in Venezuela but headed here is on it. And said network facilitates literally everything they doing to reach here.
From the trip inland to Tucupita, to which vessels to contact, to what time they go land and who meeting them and where they would be staying, and what they doing while they here. To show you how it thought out, they don't even use tstt or digicel or flow to call their people, they use their own Venezuelan carrier, and continue to do so for months after they arrive.

I said it before, and I'll say it again.
Time to start monitoring and patrolling the borders, and what needs to be done is when a vessel containing illegal immigrants is intercepted it needs to be seized, the illegals immediately returned to their point of origin, the captain charged and jailed and most importantly the vessel MUST be totally destroyed in view of all that were on it.
The first 3-4 vessels that happen with, no small vessel operator taking the chance to bring them here. The cost per person to make the trip worthwhile would skyrocket beyond what even their people that working here and sending the money to pay for the trip could afford.

[pugboy]

doubt he can really do anything against the locals assisting them and well they can’t pass new tougher laws without opposition support

I like how stuey say it sinister that them venes come here with lawyers waiting ready to assist them with documents ready to file for them, yet when they catch them they does have no id or papers on them and he want to go after those who aiding and abetting them

clearly there is a network of support for these illegals

Goebbels remains an arse, but the law is the law, and deportation is a part of that legal process.

[pugboy]

yup
jail the captain
dump the engines and destroy boat

the biggest hurdle are the corrupt ttps and cg


they have efficient networks for sending goods back on the same boats that bring the folks in too
padna who works in a super grocery in endeavor says the vene worker regularly pack groceries in boxes and have them picked up by the same maxis transporting the illegals

if you go on the vene fb groups
lots of white cheese and even meat for sale

There is a huge network of support, and almost every vene that here and still in Venezuela but headed here is on it. And said network facilitates literally everything they doing to reach here.
From the trip inland to Tucupita, to which vessels to contact, to what time they go land and who meeting them and where they would be staying, and what they doing while they here. To show you how it thought out, they don't even use tstt or digicel or flow to call their people, they use their own Venezuelan carrier, and continue to do so for months after they arrive.

I said it before, and I'll say it again.
Time to start monitoring and patrolling the borders, and what needs to be done is when a vessel containing illegal immigrants is intercepted it needs to be seized, the illegals immediately returned to their point of origin, the captain charged and jailed and most importantly the vessel MUST be totally destroyed in view of all that were on it.
The first 3-4 vessels that happen with, no small vessel operator taking the chance to bring them here. The cost per person to make the trip worthwhile would skyrocket beyond what even their people that working here and sending the money to pay for the trip could afford.

[alfa]

This is what MaxP likes to see. Illegal immigrants entering T&T.

They have their own cameraman - in the white shirt. Excellent propaganda.

Not so, Max?




https://www.facebook.com/10004556265928 ... 6567893764

Just looking at the vid alone that's about 25 illegals on our shores, 25 less places in hospitals for our citizens but Max doesn't care about that because venes are good for his self serving business interests. Never mind the fact that it's the same locals who will have to patronize his bars/ mini marts/ ph taxi whichever one it is. But don't give the same hospital space to Nigerians because those aren't good for business right

[pugboy]

you really think he have bars and minimarts lollllllll