What do you think about employers forcing employees to be vaccinated?

[paid_influencer]

seeing the UWI Head of the Law department saying she might support mandatory vaccination in certain "high risk" occupations. The right of the person refusing vaccination has to be balanced with the rights of others in that same environment to be protected.

Apparently CAL has a mandatory vaxx policy and nobody is saying boo. so it is already happening.

I feel the legal case will come down to how much the vaccine protects others from being infected. If it's only for personal protection, then there is no reason for it to be mandatory. If it's about infecting others in the workplace, then the company or government would have to show data to back up the claim the vaccine reduces transmission.

Here's the problem: Sinopharm doesn't have published data to prove reduced transmission. We can speculate Sinopharm's personal protective effects will carry over into reduced transmission, but there's no published study we can carry in front a judge to prove it actually does reduces transmission.

[88sins]

From an OSHA perspective
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/covid-19 ... ty-marise/

"...requesting employees to be vaccinated is a measure that falls under the standard of the OSH Act that requires an employer to take steps that are as far as reasonably practicable as the protection of all of its employees greatly outweighs unjustified individual resistance of some employees."

Key point there is that one word. An employer can request anything under the sun. Them getting the employees compliance is a whole other matter altogether.
And if an employee doesn't want to be vaccinated, ain't much more an employer can do Shor of terminate their service and pay them their severance.

Heard something about them minions in government wanting to make it mandatory that everyone take some from of covid vaccine. I not sure if that's true, but if it is, it'd show the path and direction this country is taking down an extremely dangerous road, one that disintegrates by the foot with every step one takes so that there's no turning back without very real and serious risks, problems and consequences.

[RedVEVO]

seeing the UWI Head of the Law department saying she might support mandatory vaccination in certain "high risk" occupations. The right of the person refusing vaccination has to be balanced with the rights of others in that same environment to be protected.

Apparently CAL has a mandatory vaxx policy and nobody is saying boo. so it is already happening.

I feel the legal case will come down to how much the vaccine protects others from being infected. If it's only for personal protection, then there is no reason for it to be mandatory. If it's about infecting others in the workplace, then the company or government would have to show data to back up the claim the vaccine reduces transmission.

Here's the problem: Sinopharm doesn't have published data to prove reduced transmission. We can speculate Sinopharm's personal protective effects will carry over into reduced transmission, but there's no published study we can carry in front a judge to prove it actually does reduces transmission.

Just the translation of the Sino COVID technical specs by the judge will have the effect like you have COVID ..

Peeps check the hospitals where the Sino is given - Chinese staff tabulate the results - Sum Ting Wong

[RedVEVO]

seeing the UWI Head of the Law department saying she might support mandatory vaccination in certain "high risk" occupations. The right of the person refusing vaccination has to be balanced with the rights of others in that same environment to be protected.

Apparently CAL has a mandatory vaxx policy and nobody is saying boo. so it is already happening.

I feel the legal case will come down to how much the vaccine protects others from being infected. If it's only for personal protection, then there is no reason for it to be mandatory. If it's about infecting others in the workplace, then the company or government would have to show data to back up the claim the vaccine reduces transmission.

Here's the problem: Sinopharm doesn't have published data to prove reduced transmission. We can speculate Sinopharm's personal protective effects will carry over into reduced transmission, but there's no published study we can carry in front a judge to prove it actually does reduces transmission.

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/v ... bbibp-corv



" In the phase 1 trial, 96 participants were assigned to 1 of the 3 dose groups (2.5, 5, and 10 μg/dose) and aluminum hydroxide (alum) adjuvant–only group (n = 24 in each group). They received 3 intramuscular injections at days 0, 28, and 56. In the phase 2 trial, 224 adults were randomized to 5 μg/dose in 2 schedule groups (injections on days 0 and 14 [n = 84] vs. alum only [n = 28], and days 0 and 21 [n = 84] vs. alum only [n = 28]). On December 9, 2020, a media report stated, 'The new analysis also shows “99% seroconversion rate of neutralizing antibody and 100% effectiveness in preventing moderate and severe cases of the disease."

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

France’s new vaccine rules
No access to cafes, restaurants, shopping malls, hospitals and trains without vaccination or negative tests

More than 20,000 French people a minute booked vaccine appointments in the hours after Emmanuel Macron announced that cafes, restaurants, shopping malls and trains would be out of bounds for unvaccinated customers from next month.
Macron said that from 21 July anyone wanting to visit a theatre, cinema, sports venue or festival that had an audience of more than 50 people would need to show a health pass proving they were either fully vaccinated or had tested negative.

The same requirement will be extended to bars, cafes, restaurants, shopping centres, hospitals, long-distance trains and planes from 1 August, the president said. Free Covid tests, meanwhile, will end in September, “to encourage vaccination”.

In an address watched by 22.4 million people, Macron also said vaccinations would be mandatory for health workers, retirement home staff and all others working with vulnerable people, with sanctions for those not fully vaccinated by September.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... k-approach

[RedVEVO]

Agreeing that vaccinations were important, Baig said at the same time, the Government should never use its office or power to trample on the civil liberties of society.

“ Imagine a person who has a medical condition that prevents them from taking the vaccine. What happens there? Are they going to have to walk with a letter everywhere they go saying what’s wrong with them, even if that health issue is a very private one? More importantly, if a person is forced to take a vaccine and something happens to them and they fall ill because of this vaccine, who are we holding liable after that after you force them? .. "

as what was done in Germany, where the Jews were made to walk around with the sign on their arms?”



https://guardian.co.tt/news/stakeholder ... 96cd6c1f0d

[matr1x]

A few supervisors at ministries are telling staff employment will depend on vaccination status

[redmanjp]

A few supervisors at ministries are telling staff employment will depend on vaccination status

are they telling them they will be terminated or just to stay home for now (which is what staff at non-essential ministries were already doing)? there's a difference. and at least in teh public sector they getting paid to stay home.

[sam1978]

Revelation 13:17


“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

Suppose?

[timelapse]

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

[hover11]

Never in human history has there ever been a time when the governments across the various nations made law that if you don't take this vaccine you cannot essentially buy or sell, you could say what you want about Christianity but the stage is being set and I'm no devout Christian far from it actually

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

[matr1x]

A few supervisors at ministries are telling staff employment will depend on vaccination status

are they telling them they will be terminated or just to stay home for now (which is what staff at non-essential ministries were already doing)? there's a difference. and at least in teh public sector they getting paid to stay home.

They are doing restructuring and some supervisors without discretion telling staff outright that if you not vaccinated, you may not have place in the new structure.

Real minister children and niece and nephews getting work. That is classic pnm corruption

[elec2020]

^ proof?

[timelapse]

Never in human history has there ever been a time when the governments across the various nations made law that if you don't take this vaccine you cannot essentially buy or sell, you could say what you want about Christianity but the stage is being set and I'm no devout Christian far from it actually

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

When hookers telling you is either you wear a condom or no service, do you complain?

[zoom rader]

^ proof?

Kant I used to work in Pt lisas and at certain plants it was a dumping ground for red government families to pass through the back door for jobs.

Places to mention was Iscott, NGC, Fertrin, NGC was and is the major dumping ground for these square pegs.

You won't know these things cause you never had a real job.

[elec2020]

^ proof?

Kant I used to work in Pt lisas and at certain plants it was a dumping ground for red government families to pass through the back door for jobs.

Places to mention was Iscott, NGC, Fertrin, NGC was and is the major dumping ground for these square pegs.

You won't know these things cause you never had a real job.

I was asking mat1x not you. Why you responding to me like I laid the question directly to you? Unless you mix up the alternate accounts again and matr1x is a

[sam1978]

Oh lord!!!! You and this fixation on who have alternate accounts! Get over it nah! You sounding like you have a mental problem. Anybody could answer any question on a forum if they know the answer. And please , the memes , you getting on like a twelve year old.

The plants zr quoted were in the past . He’s showing that it is historical. Matr1x is talking about present. You seem to be very simple minded or suffering from a mental issue. By any chance , are you desi?

[elec2020]

i am not the only person who has questioned the legitimacy of u guys. But I like how u deflecting by trying to claim that i am also a clone. Now those who alleged that you guys are clones had evidence that proved beyond reasonable doubt (imo) that you guys were alternate accounts (alas the multiple account thread has since been locked). In fact almost daily other tuners (apart from me) claim that you guys are clones. U guys not fooling anyone. Anyway, please provide evidence that shows beyond a reasonable doubt that i am desi clone 99? Also, if you dislike my posts then block me. Simple

[sam1978]

You are Bob Kevin or Stuart? That’s habitual7 in the middle.
Every topic you derail and change the talk to alternate accounts. It has to be mental. You and your team know how to change a topic.

[elec2020]

shift the goalposts again. Cause I still waiting on the evidence to show that i am desi. Come on clone 99

[sam1978]

I read it in the Daily Mail so it has to be true.

[matr1x]

^ proof?

Ask minister of education

[hover11]

Never in human history has there ever been a time when the governments across the various nations made law that if you don't take this vaccine you cannot essentially buy or sell, you could say what you want about Christianity but the stage is being set and I'm no devout Christian far from it actually

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

When hookers telling you is either you wear a condom or no service, do you complain?

Relevance ? I made a point that the stage is being set for mandatory vaccination linked to marks of the beast and you created a post about hooker......gotta love this country

[paid_influencer]

^question tho. who is the beast? china, the america?

this is why I want my vaccine from Africa

[Mmoney607]

France’s new vaccine rules
No access to cafes, restaurants, shopping malls, hospitals and trains without vaccination or negative tests

More than 20,000 French people a minute booked vaccine appointments in the hours after Emmanuel Macron announced that cafes, restaurants, shopping malls and trains would be out of bounds for unvaccinated customers from next month.
Macron said that from 21 July anyone wanting to visit a theatre, cinema, sports venue or festival that had an audience of more than 50 people would need to show a health pass proving they were either fully vaccinated or had tested negative.

The same requirement will be extended to bars, cafes, restaurants, shopping centres, hospitals, long-distance trains and planes from 1 August, the president said. Free Covid tests, meanwhile, will end in September, “to encourage vaccination”.

In an address watched by 22.4 million people, Macron also said vaccinations would be mandatory for health workers, retirement home staff and all others working with vulnerable people, with sanctions for those not fully vaccinated by September.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... k-approach

The same article also lists immunity from previous infection

[hover11]

The beast could be anyone.....why is this vaccine so important that it means I cannot buy and sell with you....I thought money was the factor when doing business, the ppl on top believe this vaccine is more important than money but why.....dont tell me it's because business is failing ...there are ulterior motives at work here

^question tho. who is the beast? china, the america?

this is why I want my vaccine from Africa

[88sins]

Never in human history has there ever been a time when the governments across the various nations made law that if you don't take this vaccine you cannot essentially buy or sell, you could say what you want about Christianity but the stage is being set and I'm no devout Christian far from it actually

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

When hookers telling you is either you wear a condom or no service, do you complain?

Funny thing about condoms. Even if you are compelled to use one for an hourly paid girlfriend experience, you can choose to use it or not, and in the event that you do use one, you can dispose of it a amt any time you ready after you done and return to life as though it was never there.

I'd love to see someone show me how they gonna get the vaccine entirely out of their own body if they decide they don't want it anymore, and they must be able to show that it can be taken out just as easily as a condom can.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The beast could be anyone.....why is this vaccine so important that it means I cannot buy and sell with you....I thought money was the factor when doing business, the ppl on top believe this vaccine is more important than money but why.....dont tell me it's because business is failing ...there are ulterior motives at work here

^question tho. who is the beast? china, the america?

this is why I want my vaccine from Africa

the ulterior motives include that people are getting sick and dying and healthcare systems are being overwhelmed

[paid_influencer]

Never in human history has there ever been a time when the governments across the various nations made law that if you don't take this vaccine you cannot essentially buy or sell, you could say what you want about Christianity but the stage is being set and I'm no devout Christian far from it actually

Christianity has been the enemy of truth and science since the dark ages.I surprised that despite the centuries of technological progress, they still on with this sheit.The mark of the beast is your social media accounts and smart phone.The mark of the beast is the ECU in your BMW. You willing to get those things out of your life as well? Pride is the cardinal sin that all the rest stem from.Bible 101

When hookers telling you is either you wear a condom or no service, do you complain?

Funny thing about condoms. Even if you are compelled to use one for an hourly paid girlfriend experience, you can choose to use it or not, and in the event that you do use one, you can dispose of it a amt any time you ready after you done and return to life as though it was never there.

I'd love to see someone show me how they gonna get the vaccine entirely out of their own body if they decide they don't want it anymore, and they must be able to show that it can be taken out just as easily as a condom can.

this is the trade union's argument in a nutshell.

[De Dragon]

^ proof?

A few supervisors at ministries are telling staff employment will depend on vaccination status

are they telling them they will be terminated or just to stay home for now (which is what staff at non-essential ministries were already doing)? there's a difference. and at least in teh public sector they getting paid to stay home.

They are doing restructuring and some supervisors without discretion telling staff outright that if you not vaccinated, you may not have place in the new structure.

Real minister children and niece and nephews getting work. That is classic pnm corruption

All of them do it. I worked in a place where there was a Manning (Brian), John (Carlos John), Jones (Neil Jones) Jones, (Malcolm Jones) all at the same time.