T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[arsenal32]

The new Audi A3
anyone knows if its a wet clutch or a dry clutch?

From the little info I have on this car, it may be the dq200…so do I sense that you’re in replacement mode?

I need an SUV now ... Need the trunk space and ground clearance.
Options so far are the CRV, Rav4
Corolla cross and the Foreign new Vezel are options on the table.
The BMW x1 is an attractive option as well but not sure if I wanna go euro again.

Trying to convince a friend not to buy a A3 if it has a dry clutch tranny.

Scene, in that case the new CRV it is. I know you got spoilt with that turbo over the years!

Tiguan not even in the conversation? perfect for trunk space and clearance.
And what's wrong with going euro again? just would like to hear your opinion
have an X1 atm and pretty pleased thus far...but considering moving from X1 to Tiguan
I prefer the VW ride coming from a Jetta then Passat to X1 and would only keep the X1 if I change the run flats for a more comfortable ride

[agent007]

I like the Tiguan. It’s nice to drive, but it’s not a vehicle to commit to. I’ll take it over the X1 still though. That X1 is just a fwd mini and that 3 cylinder engine is an absolute no. If you go Tiguan, I actually consider it an upgrade over an X1. Under the skin of a Tiguan, you will find components shared with Audi and Porsche vehicles. True BMW “SUVs” start at the rwd based X3 IMO. Good luck on what you decide…

[drchaos]

Thanks for the info

The Vitara too small for me so won't go in that direction.
the Tiguan we get here is a 1.5T or a 2.0T?

Never wanted a Mercedes don't like their ethos.

Forester was appealing but the price massy is charging is crazyness.

If we get the Hybrid Tucson ... I might consider this.

[Capleton]

Thanks for the info

The Vitara too small for me so won't go in that direction.
the Tiguan we get here is a 1.5T or a 2.0T?

Never wanted a Mercedes don't like their ethos.

Forester was appealing but the price massy is charging is crazyness.

If we get the Hybrid Tucson ... I might consider this.

Tiguan in T&T is the 2.0T. You can also consider the new Jeep Compass, $340K (Longitude) $385K (Limited) shipment should arrive sometime later this month at LSM.

[kamakazi]

Have they fixed the time bomb 2.0 TSI engine

[drchaos]

Have they fixed the time bomb 2.0 TSI engine

You talking bout the Oil drinking issue or the timing chain tensioner?
Or both?

[agent007]

2021 Mazda BT-50 4x2 auto - $284k

Not sure if I’m liking the 2000s throw back of the DVD player especially in that location. It looks out of place in this van but positioned exactly where I expect it to be in a Sailun tyre burning A31 with obligatory RB engine and a fully white oaked driver.

[carluva]

DVD player???

Nah man. Not in this day and age of streaming media, media players and AVRs.

284k for the 4x2 seems kinda high. What's the pricing on the high spec 4x4?

The exterior styling looks good. Better than previous models imo.

Although, I'm not sure if it's the photo or me, but the wheels seem kinda small for the vehicle and alot of space in the well. One could offer up some bigger wheels and tyres, but on a 4x2, that makes no sense.

[zando]

2022 wrx, I like it, I'm sure it will cost an arm and a leg because bigger engine (2.4) and massy so yea but man I really like it.

[kamakazi]

Timing chain tensioner. Oil drinking issues I can he handle

Have they fixed the time bomb 2.0 TSI engine

You talking bout the Oil drinking issue or the timing chain tensioner?
Or both?

[aaron17]

Thanks for the info

The Vitara too small for me so won't go in that direction.
the Tiguan we get here is a 1.5T or a 2.0T?

Never wanted a Mercedes don't like their ethos.

Forester was appealing but the price massy is charging is crazyness.

If we get the Hybrid Tucson ... I might consider this.

A car is always better.... maintainence is always higher for an suv...tyres etc. How about a wagon?

[drchaos]

Thanks for the info

The Vitara too small for me so won't go in that direction.
the Tiguan we get here is a 1.5T or a 2.0T?

Never wanted a Mercedes don't like their ethos.

Forester was appealing but the price massy is charging is crazyness.

If we get the Hybrid Tucson ... I might consider this.

A car is always better.... maintainence is always higher for an suv...tyres etc. How about a wagon?

Nah dred, need the ground clearance along side the space.

Wagon would be fine if it was just the space that was needed. Multiple times a month I need to borrow my Dad's Subie XV cause the civic is too low to make some of my runs. Good to have a second car as well, since the kids starting school and the wife will be doing alot of runs.

[aaron17]

Subie is a crossover... best of both worlds. Price might be good for ur needs.

[kamakazi]

Thanks for the info

The Vitara too small for me so won't go in that direction.
the Tiguan we get here is a 1.5T or a 2.0T?

Never wanted a Mercedes don't like their ethos.

Forester was appealing but the price massy is charging is crazyness.

If we get the Hybrid Tucson ... I might consider this.

A car is always better.... maintainence is always higher for an suv...tyres etc. How about a wagon?

Yes... But how much more expensive is it really

Most of those crossovers are built on the same platform as a car... So same engine, transmission, in some cases the same or similar suspension and brakes.

Larger tyres generally cost more but they can last longer; ultimately depends on the driver and a lot of other factors.

[drchaos]

Subie is a crossover... best of both worlds. Price might be good for ur needs.

The XV price is great but the cargo space is terrible. Me thinks my civic has more trunk capacity.

My trunk used to always be empty unless I needed to transport something. Now half of it is always taken up with stuff my wife claims "we might need"

So yeah that extra trunk/cargo space would be a blessing

[Gladiator]

Subie is a crossover... best of both worlds. Price might be good for ur needs.

The XV price is great but the cargo space is terrible. Me thinks my civic has more trunk capacity.

My trunk used to always be empty unless I needed to transport something. Now half of it is always taken up with stuff my wife claims "we might need"

So yeah that extra trunk/cargo space would be a blessing

Get a Toyota Rush...

[drchaos]

Subie is a crossover... best of both worlds. Price might be good for ur needs.

The XV price is great but the cargo space is terrible. Me thinks my civic has more trunk capacity.

My trunk used to always be empty unless I needed to transport something. Now half of it is always taken up with stuff my wife claims "we might need"

So yeah that extra trunk/cargo space would be a blessing

Get a Toyota Rush...

I dunno dred it fugly an underpowered. But I not taking anything off the table.

[knorgriff]

2022 wrx, I like it, I'm sure it will cost an arm and a leg because bigger engine (2.4) and massy so yea but man I really like it.

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How much you think massy would call for this? I think the previous model is almost 700K

[triniboi49]

I went to Massy to check out the MGs. They had 3 models - the HS the ZS and the hatchback. The mid spec trophy HS is 254K as mentioned before, 4x2, leather, MG Pilot. Decent Space. The ZS while smaller had a very large trunk - more usable than a HRV.
They running on premium. They looked good, interior was a little bland - maybe where the Koreans were last generation. All units sold.

A higher spec HS is coming in December- sun roof not sure what else. Decent kit for the money, I think if Massy can behave themselves on the pricing they may have a winner here.

BTW they converted the VW showroom to Volvo.

[carluva]

Have you peeped the second hand market?

Subie is a crossover... best of both worlds. Price might be good for ur needs.

The XV price is great but the cargo space is terrible. Me thinks my civic has more trunk capacity.

My trunk used to always be empty unless I needed to transport something. Now half of it is always taken up with stuff my wife claims "we might need"

So yeah that extra trunk/cargo space would be a blessing

[agent007]

I received unconfirmed information that suggests the MG's (at least some of them) uses a Getrag/MAGNA sourced dry dual-clutch transmission which is similar to the Ford Powershift DCT (and we know how this turned out to be a massive failure for Ford and partly why they are, like VW, are almost dead brands locally).

So it is on this note, to all those dual-clutch owners out there, especially those who have clutches that don't touch transmission fluid (yes like some of you Tucson turbo owners), I salute you and I wish you all the very best!

[4Motion]

2021 Audi Q5
Q5 Advanced 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $580k
Q5 S-line 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $635k
Q5 Sportback S-line 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $685k

Both of the S-line models come with full S-line interior.

[supercharged turbo]

Any reviews on the new D-MAX?

[Gladiator]

Any reviews on the new D-MAX?

Not really a review but here goes... I was tracking this vehicle for almost a year now. Keeping in touch with the sales rep who assured me that the signature X-Terrain model would be in the first shipment.

After waiting, finally it arrived. He never told me it came and I had to approach him. Of course the X Terrain model did not come. He then informs me that they would never be getting the X-Terrain DMAX.

He did send info on the model they get as the highest trim. It is like 3 grades down from the X Terrain. There are no cosmetic trims, no fender flares, front garnish or Roll bar. There is also no driver assistance features whatsoever. In fact they left the RHS of the steering wheel controls blank. So no adaptive cruise control, no atonymous breaking, no Blind spot assistance etc.

They only got 3 of the highest trim white, silver and grey. The signature orange and blue is supposed to be for the X Terrain model only.

Pretty disappointed in the local dealership. It seems they brought a mid spec as their high spec and have the BT50 as the high end van. That too did not come with any of the safety features but adds a DVD player (yeah 2005 thing), a dimming rear view mirror and basic cruise control so at least the steering wheel does not look as though something missing.

The Navara Pro 4X is a nice looking van though but the interior is hedious. And that has no driver assistance features either for a whooping 40k more.

Seems as though the only hope left is the foreign used (new) grey markey dealers... maybe they can bring a real fully loaded pickup to our shores.

[supercharged turbo]

I would love to see one of those grey market dealers bring the X-Terrain.I'm guessing S.S. considers the BT-50 as the high spec model because it now uses the same engine as the D-MAX

Any reviews on the new D-MAX?

Not really a review but here goes... I was tracking this vehicle for almost a year now. Keeping in touch with the sales rep who assured me that the signature X-Terrain model would be in the first shipment.

After waiting, finally it arrived. He never told me it came and I had to approach him. Of course the X Terrain model did not come. He then informs me that they would never be getting the X-Terrain DMAX.

He did send info on the model they get as the highest trim. It is like 3 grades down from the X Terrain. There are no cosmetic trims, no fender flares, front garnish or Roll bar. There is also no driver assistance features whatsoever. In fact they left the RHS of the steering wheel controls blank. So no adaptive cruise control, no atonymous breaking, no Blind spot assistance etc.

They only got 3 of the highest trim white, silver and grey. The signature orange and blue is supposed to be for the X Terrain model only.

Pretty disappointed in the local dealership. It seems they brought a mid spec as their high spec and have the BT50 as the high end van. That too did not come with any of the safety features but adds a DVD player (yeah 2005 thing), a dimming rear view mirror and basic cruise control so at least the steering wheel does not look as though something missing.

The Navara Pro 4X is a nice looking van though but the interior is hedious. And that has no driver assistance features either for a whooping 40k more.

Seems as though the only hope left is the foreign used (new) grey markey dealers... maybe they can bring a real fully loaded pickup to our shores.

[agent007]

Gladiator, the Sportero and Colorado may have the safety kit you’re looking for. See supporting pics. You would see on both vans that the forward facing cams are on both windshields and as in the case with the Sportero, the crash avoidance button is located to the right of the steering wheel column but on the Colorado, the same button can be found on the steering wheel.

Also, both vans come with factory installed parking sensors for both front and rear bumpers. The NP300 may not have the front sensors but it does have the Around View Monitor (Nissan’s 360 camera).

[agent007]

2021 Audi Q5
Q5 Advanced 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $580k
Q5 S-line 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $635k
Q5 Sportback S-line 2.0T (45TFSI) Quattro - $685k

Both of the S-line models come with full S-line interior.

Good stuff there bro, do I foresee a name change to Quattro soon lol?

[zando]

I received unconfirmed information that suggests the MG's (at least some of them) uses a Getrag/MAGNA sourced dry dual-clutch transmission which is similar to the Ford Powershift DCT (and we know how this turned out to be a massive failure for Ford and partly why they are, like VW, are almost dead brands locally).

So it is on this note, to all those dual-clutch owners out there, especially those who have clutches that don't touch transmission fluid (yes like some of you Tucson turbo owners), I salute you and I wish you all the very best!

At licensing in POS, I'm sitting outside looking at the registration bay area and someone from massy just sped in with one of the mg HS from the highway side and make one tire squealing spin into the registration bay, had d plates so I guess someone bought it, but geez, why these people in dealerships and service areas must drive other people's cars so hard? They do that in lifestyle also, ud swear it's a race.

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if that person brought it back for a warranty repair lol

[death365]

Q7 S line Sports 2.0L TFSI (252 HP / 185 KW) Quattro - $845,000

[agent007]

It’s a cultural thing zando. It’s embedded in the DNA of 99% of dealership drivers.

“Hey look at me, I’m driving a brand spanking new vehicle on D plates. Let me ruff it up and show off. Ah reach!!!”

Clutch burnout with a dry clutch transmission on a vehicle with an expected resale value as a door mat and possibly as reliable as a wet card board box? Anyway, we might see more as chip shortages continue to plague non Chinese automobile manufacturers.