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Re: "Official" GARY GRIFFITH & POLICE related matters thread ...

Postby MaxPower » September 22nd, 2021, 7:41 am

What are GGs chances of another term with all that’s going on?

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Postby pugboy » September 22nd, 2021, 8:12 am

them tantrums he throw with he son football non-selection is a serious personality red flag
some might say that needs anger management therapy

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rollingstock wrote:I was holding my tongue on this thread. So much I want to say eh.

But good riddance to garbage. All who supporting fall for the PR machine.

So much more to say, but I'll leave it as is.
I agree with you.I knew of GG's arrogance since PP days.
What we need is the right combination of integrity and arseholishness, you up for the job?

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Postby Ryan197912 » September 22nd, 2021, 9:21 am

MaxPower wrote:What are GGs chances of another term with all that’s going on?

0%

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Postby hover11 » September 22nd, 2021, 11:39 am

MaxPower wrote:What are GGs chances of another term with all that’s going on?
Too much controversy surrounding him, his days as COP are done

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Postby MaxPower » September 22nd, 2021, 7:42 pm

Seeing plenty petitions going around in support of Gary.

You really feel ppl care about him?

All these petitions are fueled from Firearm dealers who don’t care about Gary or the safety of our citizens.

With Gary there, more FULs will be issued resulting in more processing fees and increased Firearm sales and services.

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Postby pugboy » September 22nd, 2021, 7:44 pm

It’s kinda like when the popo kill a bandit and they say he was a good boy.

MaxPower wrote:Seeing plenty petitions going around in support of Gary.

You really feel ppl care about him?

All these petitions are fueled from Firearm dealers who don’t care about Gary or the safety of our citizens.

With Gary there, more FULs will be issued resulting in more processing fees and increased Firearm sales and services.

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Postby alfa » September 22nd, 2021, 8:01 pm

MaxPower wrote:Seeing plenty petitions going around in support of Gary.

You really feel ppl care about him?

All these petitions are fueled from Firearm dealers who don’t care about Gary or the safety of our citizens.

With Gary there, more FULs will be issued resulting in more processing fees and increased Firearm sales and services.

You hit the nail on the head there. With property tax, COVID, mandatory vaccinations and rising unemployment the last thing the average Joe should care about is Gary but money has to be made in facilitation fees. Plenty dealers stand to lose big time if we revert to the Stephen Williams days

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Postby daring dragoon » September 22nd, 2021, 8:07 pm

sMASH wrote:What corrupt officers got weeded out?



they fight it, so weeds remain in the lawn and we cant do sheit about it.

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Postby rollingstock » September 22nd, 2021, 8:53 pm

zoom rader wrote:
sam1978 wrote:Stephen never liked the idea of too many forearms so it wasn’t him increasing the pool. The occifers use to have a small hustle and the dealers use to use that ave. GG open the flood gates . Wide.
Jah bless Steven he did give out firearms. I know this very well


These little pissants ain't know that. They just running with 'ah hear so'

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Postby sMASH » September 22nd, 2021, 10:26 pm

Need moar guns out there. Police Jess hadda show up and take statements.

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Postby eliteauto » September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 pm

GG coming right back

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Postby MaxPower » September 22nd, 2021, 11:12 pm

eliteauto wrote:GG coming right back


U sure about this?

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Postby zoom rader » September 22nd, 2021, 11:13 pm

MaxPower wrote:
eliteauto wrote:GG coming right back


U sure about this?
He's eliteauto-tuntun, he has direct links to the red government.

How you think he gets his many red government contacts and privileges

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Postby The_Honourable » September 22nd, 2021, 11:23 pm

Ramesh done inform the Privy Council before the matter is even settled at the High Court... which also means he doesn't particularly care what happens at the Court of Appeal. For Ramesh to run with this (besides the money), he's very confident of a win at the Privy Council level. If he wins at the lower courts and the PSC doesn't appeal, better yet.

Failgerald Hinds might end up watching GG face to face at national security meetings soon.

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Postby Chimera » September 23rd, 2021, 5:50 am

Rollingstock for COP!

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Postby sam1978 » September 23rd, 2021, 5:59 am

rollingstock wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sam1978 wrote:Stephen never liked the idea of too many forearms so it wasn’t him increasing the pool. The occifers use to have a small hustle and the dealers use to use that ave. GG open the flood gates . Wide.
Jah bless Steven he did give out firearms. I know this very well


These little pissants ain't know that. They just running with 'ah hear so'


I know reading and comprehension is not your strong points but Stephen himself said so and I said too many , not that he didn’t give out any at all. I also said , Gary increased the pool… Gary himself said so. But as usual , you know more than everybody with your 3 CXC. Rolling stock for COP!!!!!!
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Postby pugboy » September 23rd, 2021, 6:02 am

hinds really not too smart

they might have to do a occah seepaul and call a state of emergency to get rid of him

The_Honourable wrote:Ramesh done inform the Privy Council before the matter is even settled at the High Court... which also means he doesn't particularly care what happens at the Court of Appeal. For Ramesh to run with this (besides the money), he's very confident of a win at the Privy Council level. If he wins at the lower courts and the PSC doesn't appeal, better yet.

Failgerald Hinds might end up watching GG face to face at national security meetings soon.

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Postby Gladiator » September 23rd, 2021, 7:36 am

Correct me if I am wrong. But didn't Gary at the beginning of his appointment have some fall out with Hinds and told the Govt that he can't work with him so they put Stewart Young as minister and boot out Hinds?

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Postby pugboy » September 23rd, 2021, 7:50 am

not hinds

allegedly the other army man


Gladiator wrote:Correct me if I am wrong. But didn't Gary at the beginning of his appointment have some fall out with Hinds and told the Govt that he can't work with him so they put Stewart Young as minister and boot out Hinds?

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Postby Ryan197912 » September 23rd, 2021, 9:33 am

The_Honourable wrote:Ramesh done inform the Privy Council before the matter is even settled at the High Court... which also means he doesn't particularly care what happens at the Court of Appeal. For Ramesh to run with this (besides the money), he's very confident of a win at the Privy Council level. If he wins at the lower courts and the PSC doesn't appeal, better yet.

Failgerald Hinds might end up watching GG face to face at national security meetings soon.


Please read Section 123(4) of the Constitution of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago to see why the last paragraph of your comment will never occur.
Section 121(4) will also be instructive in a broader sense to understand administrative functions in Trinidad and Tobago.

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Postby The_Honourable » September 23rd, 2021, 9:52 am

Ryan197912 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Ramesh done inform the Privy Council before the matter is even settled at the High Court... which also means he doesn't particularly care what happens at the Court of Appeal. For Ramesh to run with this (besides the money), he's very confident of a win at the Privy Council level. If he wins at the lower courts and the PSC doesn't appeal, better yet.

Failgerald Hinds might end up watching GG face to face at national security meetings soon.


Please read Section 123(4) of the Constitution of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago to see why the last paragraph of your comment will never occur.
Section 121(4) will also be instructive in a broader sense to understand administrative functions in Trinidad and Tobago.


I meant that there is a high chance that he would return as Acting COP. He cannot be confirmed as the COP at this point since the selection process is incomplete and quite frankly, in shambles right now.

The question is if the list actually made it to the President. If not, can the current Chairman of the Police Service Commission still deliver it to the President.

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Postby toyolink » September 23rd, 2021, 10:15 am

If the Gov't doesn't want Mr Griffith in the office of COP does it make sense for him to fight for reinstatement or just look for a proper settlement and a clean 'bill of professional health'.
To be appointed COP and the Gov't not providing proper support can mean operating with 'hands tied'.
The whole debacle must be causing good minded officers serious motivational issues.
When your ultimate boss is the state which is not known for the best management style and or adherence to proper checks and controls, ones ability to perform can be destroyed.

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Postby Cantmis » September 23rd, 2021, 10:47 am

Hinds into the model type, gg not his type.

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Postby pugboy » September 23rd, 2021, 10:59 am

not if you know and see blatant bobol happening before your eyes

toyolink wrote:If the Gov't doesn't want Mr Griffith in the office of COP does it make sense for him to fight for reinstatement or just look for a proper settlement and a clean 'bill of professional health'.
To be appointed COP and the Gov't not providing proper support can mean operating with 'hands tied'.
The whole debacle must be causing good minded officers serious motivational issues.
When your ultimate boss is the state which is not known for the best management style and or adherence to proper checks and controls, ones ability to perform can be destroyed.

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Postby The_Honourable » September 23rd, 2021, 8:24 pm

Behind-the-scenes negotiations between lawyers for Gary and PSC

INFORMATION reaching Newsday on Thursday was that attorneys for former police commissioner Gary Griffith and the Police Service Commission (PSC) were meeting to try and hammer out a possible settlement and end the ongoing controversy which has seen one PSC member resign and calls for all of the PSC members to quit.

The deal could see Griffith return to the post as acting police commissioner for a brief period before agreeing to step aside until the end of October.

Sources said Griffith is likely to withdraw his legal challenge against his suspension once the terms of the settlement are finalised.

He was expected to make a statement on Thursday, but up to 7 pm, Newsday was told there was still some wrangling between the lawyers on a specific issue.

On Monday, Griffith filed a judicial review application challenging the PSC’s decision to suspend him on the basis of an investigation it initiated on September 1, headed by retired Justice of Appeal Stanley John, into allegations of corruption in the issuance of firearm user’s licences; and the police handling of an incident at sea involving Christian Chandler, the head of the legal unit in the police service.

Griffith maintains the PSC's decision to suspend him on September 17, with immediate effect and until further notice, on the sole basis of the Stanley John investigation, is null, void and of no legal effect.

On Monday he filed for judicial review of the suspension and the case came up for hearing on Tuesday before Justice Ricky Rahim who adjourned it to Monday, to give the PSC’s attorneys an opportunity to get instructions and file the necessary responses, if required.

However, on Thursday, the case was reassigned to Justice Nadia Kangaloo who is also hearing a separate challenge to Griffith’s appointment.

That legal challenge, by social activist Ravi Balgobin-Maharaj also came up for hearing on Tuesday, but did not get off the ground as Justice Kangaloo adjourned it to October 1, to give the PSC and Griffith an opportunity to respond to the interpretation claim.

Balgobin-Maharaj is questioning the acting appointment when Griffith’s three-year contract as top cop came to an end on August 17.

Kangaloo is also hearing a challenge to the appointment of a new commissioner brought by Acting Snr Supt Anand Ramesar over the PSC’s handling of the police commissioner recruitment process.

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/23/behind ... y-and-psc/

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Postby pugboy » September 23rd, 2021, 8:43 pm

a padna called a popular central gun dealer known for towing vehicles

asked the lady if they had any ful forms avail to get to fill out

the answer was “we don’t have forms”
he then asked if they ever used to have the forms so they could carry in for applicants
woman start to stammer and say well no we don’t do that
i almost dead when i hear that convo

somebody should call and ask about their pending application that they carried in and paid for
should get some more stammering

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Postby MaxPower » September 24th, 2021, 9:11 am

pugboy wrote:a padna called a popular central gun dealer known for towing vehicles

asked the lady if they had any ful forms avail to get to fill out

the answer was “we don’t have forms”
he then asked if they ever used to have the forms so they could carry in for applicants
woman start to stammer and say well no we don’t do that
i almost dead when i hear that convo

somebody should call and ask about their pending application that they carried in and paid for
should get some more stammering


Rel processing fees going to be non-refundable or will be on hold for a while.

Lmao

But if GG returns as COP he might be a lil hesitant to sign off that easily especially if he was in the racket.

And honestly i don’t think he genuinely signing off thousands of applications with the goodness of his heart for dealers to make immense profit only for themselves.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » September 24th, 2021, 12:08 pm

Settlement reached on Griffith, PSC matter

The legal dispute between suspended acting Police Commissioner Gary Griffith and the Police Service Commission (PSC) took an unexpected turn yesterday afternoon, with the parties reportedly coming to a settlement.

Guardian Media was reliably informed that the legal teams for both parties were locked in negotiations over the finer details of the agreement up to late yesterday.

However, legal sources said that as part of the settlement, the suspension against Griffith, issued by the commission last Friday, will be lifted and Griffith will withdraw his ongoing lawsuit over the decision.

Despite this, legal sources said that Griffith’s return to the post will be short-lived, as he has agreed to resign in order to correct a legal error committed by the commission when it granted him the acting appointment after his three-year stint in the post ended in mid-August.

The commission will then possibly use the correct process under the Constitution to put forward Griffith to be reappointed as acting police commissioner, which includes the requirement of parliamentary approval.

Guardian Media understands that that procedure may render social activist Ravi Balgobin Maharaj’s interpretation lawsuit, over the wrong process being used by the PSC to grant Griffith the acting appointment in the first place, academic.

The development reportedly came hours after High Court Judges Nadia Kangaloo and Ricky Rahim agreed that one judge (Kangaloo) should hear both cases over the issue.

Even if the settlement is ratified and Parliament eventually approves Griffith being granted the acting appointment, the commission is still barred from completing the recruitment process for the substantive post by an injunction obtained by Senior Superintendent Anand Ramesar, who is challenging the PSC’s decision to not progress him to the interview stage of the process.

Ramesar’s injunction stays in place until October 24, when High Court Judge Joan Charles will decide whether to lift it or extend it pending her determination of the case.

https://e-paper.guardian.co.tt/infinity ... 5d4f7a2a70

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Postby pugboy » September 24th, 2021, 12:57 pm

like he doing that to sweep the fee processors under the carpet

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