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TK! wrote:hard is joke... expensive is even funnier ...
Dave wrote:They are expensive to maintain for the average person.
MG Man wrote:Dave wrote:They are expensive to maintain for the average person.
what did you base that statement on
We've had one 7 years now, bought it from new, currently doing 120k kms
In that time, changed brake pads once, had a power mirror replaced under warranty, had the TCM replaced at no cost outside warranty, Just bought two rear shocks from Continental for 1,200, replaced two sway bar bushes
I can go thru the invoices for prices on spark plugs, fuel filter, brake pads etc, but nothing cost more than say corolla parts
tmack wrote:MG Man wrote:Dave wrote:They are expensive to maintain for the average person.
what did you base that statement on
We've had one 7 years now, bought it from new, currently doing 120k kms
In that time, changed brake pads once, had a power mirror replaced under warranty, had the TCM replaced at no cost outside warranty, Just bought two rear shocks from Continental for 1,200, replaced two sway bar bushes
I can go thru the invoices for prices on spark plugs, fuel filter, brake pads etc, but nothing cost more than say corolla parts
MG, I'm surprised you're still rocking the Focus. Are you still going to turbocharge it?
MG Man wrote:tmack wrote:MG Man wrote:Dave wrote:They are expensive to maintain for the average person.
what did you base that statement on
We've had one 7 years now, bought it from new, currently doing 120k kms
In that time, changed brake pads once, had a power mirror replaced under warranty, had the TCM replaced at no cost outside warranty, Just bought two rear shocks from Continental for 1,200, replaced two sway bar bushes
I can go thru the invoices for prices on spark plugs, fuel filter, brake pads etc, but nothing cost more than say corolla parts
MG, I'm surprised you're still rocking the Focus. Are you still going to turbocharge it?
nah, it's really wifey's car and she's happy with it
Just ordered an engine mount for it, for 1,200
MG Man wrote:doh waste money by the firm
I buy most parts from Continental
A lot is available on ebay as well as US suppliers
kamakazi wrote:Problem might not be price but availability
tmack wrote:kamakazi wrote:Problem might not be price but availability
Bro, right now I'll say it's both!
MG Man wrote:tmack wrote:kamakazi wrote:Problem might not be price but availability
Bro, right now I'll say it's both!
last thing I had to order was the rear shocks, which took 2 weeks to arrive
Other than that, Continental stocks pretty much all the basics from brakes to filters
What sort of ownership experiences have you guys had?
MG Man wrote:I do most of my servicing myself
I get about 400 km from a tank, which is fine for me
My issue with buying a hybrid, is it will take me 10 years to break even vs just keeping the existing car
That fuel saving is an illusion, because you have to spend more to save
MG Man wrote:let's say you're paying 250 per tank, and you fill 4 times a month, that's 1k / month or 12k per year in fuel
If a hybrid cuts that in half, you'll save 6k a year
Now assuming you have to put out 50k more for the hybrid, you're putting out 50k to save 6k a year on fuel
How long would it take for the fuel saving to cover the 50k you had to spend?
Unless a more fuel efficient car isn't costing more to buy, the fuel saving is an illusion
To put it another way, if I sell the Focus for an optimistic 60k, and i have to find 200k more to buy an Ionic EV. I will die before recouping 200k worth of fuel savings. It's actually cheaper to keep the Focus and absorb whatever maintenance costs and repairs it throws at me
tmack wrote:MG Man wrote:let's say you're paying 250 per tank, and you fill 4 times a month, that's 1k / month or 12k per year in fuel
If a hybrid cuts that in half, you'll save 6k a year
Now assuming you have to put out 50k more for the hybrid, you're putting out 50k to save 6k a year on fuel
How long would it take for the fuel saving to cover the 50k you had to spend?
Unless a more fuel efficient car isn't costing more to buy, the fuel saving is an illusion
To put it another way, if I sell the Focus for an optimistic 60k, and i have to find 200k more to buy an Ionic EV. I will die before recouping 200k worth of fuel savings. It's actually cheaper to keep the Focus and absorb whatever maintenance costs and repairs it throws at me
Well, I hear and fully understand what you're saying, however, owing the vehicle is far more than just the cost of fuel for the vehicle.
Now the primary reason for the hybrid/fully electric is the impact on the gas consumption, the cost of which hits your wallet, but more importantly how expensive is it to own and operate. Massy has claimed that the service fee on the Kona is $795.00 for every 9months. I believe that the thing that might go quickly on those vehicles are the tires, when I had my hybrid, my brakes lasted and I think they're still on the vehicle. So overall the car is cheaper to own and run in the long term. If it's financially good for you to invest in an EV/Hybrid then I say go for it, if not and the Focus is able to stand the time, then keep it!
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