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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » January 17th, 2016, 10:36 am

I don't see the need to tax the basmatie and jasmine rice. This is what chinese restaurants etc use to provide food for people. The price of chinese food now going to go up, channa gone up so the price of doubles going to go up again. Yes tax food but basic things like this?

The first thing that needs to be done is ban the importation of this nasty foreign chicken pumped with all sorts of deadly chemicals, and people are being fed this by restaurants without their knowledge.

Boost local poultry instead.

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Postby INHUMAN » January 17th, 2016, 1:14 pm

Aristotle, socrates...that ya'll?

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Great is d PNM!!!

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great is the pnm










you good now??

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Re: Gov't clamps down on online shopping

Postby DVSTT » January 18th, 2016, 12:15 pm

How much vat related threads you all want to make?

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby Spitfir3 » January 18th, 2016, 12:28 pm

maj. tom wrote:Tax on salt has always lead to bad outcomes in history. It is very elite oligarchic and this sentiment will resonate deeply in the population. India. France. Russia. Those that never study history are fools.

It's very short-sighted of the government to tax very basic things that people need to survive when there are thousands of other things to levy a higher and fair tax upon. Poorer people cannot afford higher taxes on basic items. What this government has failed at from this budget and on is not understanding the psychology of the masses of a population and how to keep them at rest. They are now stirring up discontent at the deepest psychological level by taxing salt. Salt is as physiologically necessary for life as sex. Primordial rages are going to be awakened and it is a pity that leaders of this little country never understood the power of an unhappy population. Not the power of a voting booth.

Destruction.

Because that will be the only way the people will know that they can rebuild what they want. It is the responsibility of a country's government to share resources and keep the masses from realizing their primal instincts of violence by keeping them satisfied at Maslow's basic levels.


agreed fully
increasing taxes on everyday all purpose items like salt is incredibly stupid there are a lot more items that could be taxed that wouldn't put a hamper on the populous but clearly they're just looking to maximize profit by any means necessary

first time i see people so happy about getting tax upon tax shoved up their a$$ i understand they want to keep money pumping but weeding every last cent from the poor isn't the way to do it

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby j.o.e » January 18th, 2016, 12:30 pm

Men bawling for tax on salt yes .... Lol, a bag of salt is about $3 and last me at least 6 months

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Postby Spitfir3 » January 18th, 2016, 12:36 pm

j.o.e wrote:Men bawling for tax on salt yes .... Lol, a bag of salt is about $3 and last me at least 6 months


its not just about a bag of salt
its about the chain effect this will cause prices on all foods you buy outside will go up now

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby j.o.e » January 18th, 2016, 12:56 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Men bawling for tax on salt yes .... Lol, a bag of salt is about $3 and last me at least 6 months


its not just about a bag of salt
its about the chain effect this will cause prices on all foods you buy outside will go up now


When KPB zero rated it you saw any relief ?

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby Spitfir3 » January 18th, 2016, 1:01 pm

^^nothing went up i'll say that much

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby Habit7 » January 18th, 2016, 1:17 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much

VAT on Food Flops
• Consumers still feel the pinch • $400m in revenue down the drain
Shaliza Hassanali
Published: Sunday, June 2, 2013

Seven months after Government slashed Value Added Tax (VAT) on 7,000 food items, president of the Supermarkets Association of T&T (Satt) Vernon Persad has admitted that the benefits consumers enjoyed from this initiative have since been eroded. Co-ordinator of the Network of NGOs Hazel Brown feels the move was just a “fallacy decision made without thinking it through, except for the political impact on it.”

Minister of Trade, Industry and Investment Vasant Bharath, whose ministry was responsible for the removal of VAT on the items, said if it were true that prices had increased, a lot of hard work and money would have gone down the drain. Bharath admitted that the matter was now a worrying concern. VAT was removed by the People’s Partnership Government on November 15, 2012 in an effort to lower food prices and curb food-price inflation.

This move resulted in Government foregoing $400 million in revenue. On Tuesday, Persad said Satt had observed increases on a number of non VAT items over the past few months. Among them are snacks, curry, baby items, sugar, peas and beans, dairy products and juices—many of which we import, Persad said. There are 1,200 supermarkets in T&T. He blamed the increases on suppliers. “A lot of the benefits of the VAT removal have been eroded.”

Persad said many factors influenced food price volatility, including world population growth, supply and demand, natural disasters and high oil, gas and wheat prices. Persad said consumers were “almost back to square one” and were now digging deeper in their pockets, while some have been buying less. “If you walk down the lanes of every supermarket the prices have changed. In a lot of categories we’ve seen movements already. We have seen food prices move up since January.”

Satt has written to the Government seeking its intervention on the matter. How are consumers coping with the growing increases? Persad said: “I can tell you, it is tough.” Satt has advised supermarket owners that memos from suppliers outlining new price increases be displayed on shelves to guard against abuse and complaints by customers.

Bharath: Increase in food prices worrying
On Wednesday, Bharath said once VAT was removed from food items, the Prices Council was supposed to monitor prices and inform consumers of price differentials. “What it appears, in the interim, it seems that wholesalers and importers have increased the prices that they were charging previously. I don’t know whether, in fact, their prices have gone up or whether they are utilising a sort of vacuum to put up their prices.”

Bharath said this information could have been provided by the council who “need to do more work. I think they need to be given more teeth to do their work.” He admitted that the council had no legal teeth to take supermarkets to court, but could only use persuasion to inform consumers that supermarket A sells far more than supermarket B. Insisting that T&T operates in a free market state, Bharath said there was little that could be done.

“We operate in a small environment controlled by a few players, therein lies the problem. I think there needs to be some legislative measure in place to ensure that if supermarkets are caught making higher margins than they ought to, then there should be some mechanism to ensure that consumers go to other places.” Asked if the council should have been provided with more teeth before the initiative was implemented, Bharath said “yes.”

For weeks, Bharath said his ministry worked tirelessly with Satt to remove the VAT. “Having gone through all of that, I think it is a lot of hard work down the drain, if in fact the claims that prices have gone straight back up to what it was before. It is worrying.”

Initiative not in vain
Questioned if Government’s initiative had now gone in vain, Bharath said they were well-intentioned in reducing food prices in the manifesto. “I don’t think it was in vain. I think the Government did everything it could do and had to do to reduce prices. One has to ask if these are genuine increases, then it would have meant that prices would have been 15 per cent higher had we not removed the VAT. That really is the issue.” Asked if the initiative was a political ploy, Bharath begged to differ.

If it is proven that importers are jacking up prices at their whim and fancy, how will they be dealt with? On Tuesday, Bharath said the Customs Amendment Bill will be debated in the Senate. Once it is passed in both Houses, Bharath said Customs and Excise would be obligated to share information on how much importers pay for food items abroad.

“That will assist us in determining the absolute truth behind this (prices.) If it is that the imported prices are not what they have been declared to be by the importers, then I think the sharing of information will force the prices down.”

Lee Yuen: No clout to make recommendations work
Wendy Lee Yuen, whose term ended as the council’s chairman last December, said despite taking blows from consumers, it was frustrating to work with professionals who came up with recommendations that did not help rising food prices. “You see no action taken. We had no clout to make any recommendation work. When you are looking to sweeten the electorate sometimes you take action that you hope will find favour with the electorate, without necessarily putting checks and balances in place.”

Since her departure, Lee Yuen said a new council was yet to be appointed, which gives the impression that no one was looking out for consumers. She said she could imagine that consumers were feeling hoodwinked and duped to a point. Lee Yuen said she wrote Consumer Affairs Division advising that it needed to operationalise the Fair Trading Commission, which was passed and assented in Parliament several years ago.

Appointing a commission, she said, will ensure that importers do not work in collusion, stop monopolies, advise the Trade Ministry of the rate of taxes on food items and streamline imported product. If asked to serve again, Lee Yuen said she would accept but only under certain conditions. “If it is going to be the same old same old, there will be no positive outcome for consumers.”

T&T affected by what happens globally—Harford-Rooks
Elizabeth Harford-Rooks, president of the Food Distributors Association, admitted that prices of some commodities had increased—mainly bacon, imported chicken and some canned vegetables. “There are issues right now with beef coming out of the US because of short supply. We are affected by what happens globally.” Harford-Rooks said the association always tried its best to keep prices down. “We will not increase a price just for increasing a price. It will not be beneficial for us.”

Brown: Concept flawed
Insisting from the onset that the concept of the VAT removal was flawed, Brown said the move cost the Government $400 million in revenue. Brown believes that the move only created opportunities for importers and not consumers. She urged consumers to exercise collective buying power and start growing vegetables at home. On Thursday, the Network of NGOs sold seedlings to the public and also gave advice to consumers on how to utilise spaces in their homes to grow crops.

A message left for T&T Manufacturers’ Association president Nicholas Lok Jack, who is out of the country, was not returned.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-06- ... food-flops
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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby j.o.e » January 18th, 2016, 1:17 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much


yea ok :roll:

http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2015 ... -inflation

Higher prices are coming. That’s the prediction from Central Bank Governor Jwala Rambarran who said headline inflation is of concern because it has been increasing within the last year due to “food price inflation which remained in the double-digit range for the sixth successive month in December 2014.” Headline inflation stood at 8.5 per cent in December 2014

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Postby eliteauto » January 18th, 2016, 1:20 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much


lemme know which supermarket you shop in thanks, would like to shop there as well

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Postby Spitfir3 » January 18th, 2016, 2:00 pm

eliteauto wrote:
Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much


lemme know which supermarket you shop in thanks, would like to shop there as well


yea i should've been more specific i meant ready made food one would by outside not items you would buy from a grocery

if the supermarkets decide to riddle you with high prices then that's beyond the power of the government that's just greed

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Postby zoom rader » January 18th, 2016, 3:54 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Men bawling for tax on salt yes .... Lol, a bag of salt is about $3 and last me at least 6 months


its not just about a bag of salt
its about the chain effect this will cause prices on all foods you buy outside will go up now


Joe don't understand these things

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby eliteauto » January 18th, 2016, 4:42 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:
eliteauto wrote:
Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much


lemme know which supermarket you shop in thanks, would like to shop there as well


yea i should've been more specific i meant ready made food one would by outside not items you would buy from a grocery

if the supermarkets decide to riddle you with high prices then that's beyond the power of the government that's just greed


okay fair enough

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby De Dragon » January 18th, 2016, 5:04 pm

eliteauto wrote:
Spitfir3 wrote:
eliteauto wrote:
Spitfir3 wrote:^^nothing went up i'll say that much


lemme know which supermarket you shop in thanks, would like to shop there as well


yea i should've been more specific i meant ready made food one would by outside not items you would buy from a grocery

if the supermarkets decide to riddle you with high prices then that's beyond the power of the government that's just greed


okay fair enough

Fackery, many countries have strict price control regimes where you basically have to justify an increase in prices.

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby bluesclues » January 18th, 2016, 11:58 pm

If i tell allyuh how to solve allyuh supermarket woes and knock 15%-30% off ur grocery bill eh.

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Postby SimSimmer69 » January 20th, 2016, 1:24 pm

zoom rader wrote:Good

Men vote for dat chit

Dey want PNM take PNM in dey pwiffin


You need to honestly ask yourself how the country is in this mess instead of coming on social media and the internet and displaying your ignorance for the world to see. At the end of the day, the country is in deep financial sheit but apparently, people like you think we're supposed to just move on and keep living like like it's a Carnival. I honestly think you weren't educated past Standard 2.

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Postby SimSimmer69 » January 20th, 2016, 1:25 pm

zoom rader wrote:Good

Men vote for dat chit

Dey want PNM take PNM in dey pwiffin


You need to honestly ask yourself how the country got into this mess instead of coming on social media and the internet and displaying your ignorance for the world to see. At the end of the day, the country is in deep financial sheit but apparently, people like you think we're supposed to just move on and keep living life like it's a Carnival. I honestly think you weren't educated past Standard 2.
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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby dougla_boy » January 20th, 2016, 1:28 pm

j.o.e wrote:
Spitfir3 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Men bawling for tax on salt yes .... Lol, a bag of salt is about $3 and last me at least 6 months


its not just about a bag of salt
its about the chain effect this will cause prices on all foods you buy outside will go up now


When KPB zero rated it you saw any relief ?


this! nutting went down, and nobody eh say nutting......steupssssssss

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Postby zoom rader » January 20th, 2016, 3:52 pm

SimSimmer69 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Good

Men vote for dat chit

Dey want PNM take PNM in dey pwiffin


You need to honestly ask yourself how the country got into this mess instead of coming on social media and the internet and displaying your ignorance for the world to see. At the end of the day, the country is in deep financial sheit but apparently, people like you think we're supposed to just move on and keep living life like it's a Carnival. I honestly think you weren't educated past Standard 2.


You some kinda #$%@ or wat , keep spending your money on fete and mass sister .

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby zoom rader » January 20th, 2016, 3:52 pm

SimSimmer69 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Good

Men vote for dat chit

Dey want PNM take PNM in dey pwiffin


You need to honestly ask yourself how the country got into this mess instead of coming on social media and the internet and displaying your ignorance for the world to see. At the end of the day, the country is in deep financial sheit but apparently, people like you think we're supposed to just move on and keep living life like it's a Carnival. I honestly think you weren't educated past Standard 2.


You some kinda krunt or wat , keep spending your money on fete and mass sister .

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Re: List of items no longer zero-rated for VAT

Postby BRZ » January 21st, 2016, 3:11 pm

Started taking prices and pics of current prices in the grocery, lets see what happens when the reduced VAT comes in to effect, lets see if the supermarkets prices will come down or if they will RAISE their prices to equal back the same price so that they make more money.

would not put anything past Missy and their raping food prices.

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Postby zoom rader » January 21st, 2016, 7:09 pm

Imbert juss say more vat to come, I warned you all

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Postby 1UZFE » January 21st, 2016, 7:50 pm

I think d thread title need to be changed.

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