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[M_2NR]

zscrugby, dont even bother lol. First of all, he misquoting

SRASC, There is an email generator that Redmondpie linked a time back but as i said and you quoted me, i'll wait until we boy gets the 4. TBH, if i go android/maemo/w/e, i will have tooo much expectations.

I don't think we have to stoop to any level to prove that the iPhone is badass. Look what happened to even the X10 by SE.

Or worst, N97 Users. They are all great phones but the first batch ALL run the risk of fcuk ups.

The K850 was a messed up phone. I had one, mine was great! no issues, yet a large number on the boards/forums had issues.

[SRASC]

MuscleNerd has posted a screenshot demonstrating a full root shell on iPhone 4.

Obligatory full root shell screenshot on iPhone4: http://is.gd/d60iY Thanks to new @comex userland JB

Early this morning it was announced that the iPhone 4 had been jailbroken by planetbeing using comex's code.

Take a look below...

[N3M3SIS]

well the spotty screens fixes itself...and im pretty sure the maker of Activator in cydia can fix the volume rocker issue... and the antenna issue is bein fixed... and everyone loves the thrill of jailbreakin... even android usres do it.. they call it being rooted... andriods app market can never come close to competing with the app store.. and an android fone although it may look better on paper than an iphone 4... its just simply not... look at the all new evo 4g... the camera lens is offsetted from the back...the battery life is hilarious.. the screen is soo big but yet has less pixels than an iphone 4.. the iphone 4 is definately the sexiest slimmest fone on the market.. its demonstarted in many videos that the 8mp cameras on some androids is nothing compared to the 5mp camera on the iphone 4.... there is no fone that can compete right now with the iphone 4 and once the kinks get ironed out then itll be even harder to beat... BUY AN IPHONE 4...

1) Spotty screen fixing itself is just a theory. When the ink "evaporates" like the theory states, it still cannot escape the air-tight chassis. There is no proof yet of any self-correcting screens, so until there is proof, your point is moot.

2) Volume rocker issue is still a really careless issue. I can never have confidence in a manufacturer who can make such a mistake.

3) Rooting an android phone is done mostly to overclock the processor...Not to get basic phone features.

4) Android market is getting there though. It is developing at a faster rate than the apple store. And come on...how much of the 250,000 apple apps are actually useful? The majority of those apps are useless and pointless and you know it.

5) The EVO 4g is a monster of a phone and iphone 4 cannot compare. If your only argument is camera quality, pixel density and battery life I am not impressed. How about having the ability to actually have a spare replaceable battery? You can't even remove your iphone battery. While the iphone screen is denser, it still uses old technology that absorbs alot of battery life. There is no need for such a high resolution on a 3.5 inch screen anyways and you know this as well. What about bluetooth file sharing? What about TRUE multitasking and not just having a glorified task switcher like iOs4? What about browsing flash content on your web browser? What about widgets and customizable homescreens? I heard you guys just got the ability to have wallpapers?

6) By the time Steve is trying to iron out the iphone, new android handsets will be released. The Droid X destroys the iphone 4. Htc is bringing out the QWERTY keyboard Vision and its monster handset the Htc Scorpion will be out later this year. Then there's the Droid 2 and Droid Pro...The latter of which will have a 2Ghz processor. Android gives people choices. The iphone 4 was outdated from day 1.

[M_2NR]

this can go on and on, you all should keep it to PM's now okay? this is the apple dicussion thread. Yes we promote constructive argument but bickering will not get anyone anywhere.

only a few points raised make some sense. Yes, i wouldn't want to get an iPhone with jizz on the screen or rocker's upside down, but this happens. It's called returning it back. WRT to bluetooth file sharing... come on, it's been done LONG time.

Androids don't just root to o/c, thats bs. head over to the android thread and ask why... do some homework ok.

You can have 5GHz on a phone and still have shitty performance and battery life. It's all about how the OS manages it's hardware.

LOL @ outdated, look at the Evo 4G mainboard,

now look at the iPhone 4's

iphone-4-teardown-3.jpg (10.9 KiB) Viewed 2942 times

(i only replied cuz im bored of his attempts of trolling)

[SRASC]

There you have it. 600,000 pre-orders turned into 1.7 million iPhone 4 sales through this Saturday -- the Sunday transactions haven't even been tallied up yet. One more reason for Steve and company to look smug. That eclipses the 3GS' already phenomenal 1 million units sold over a weekend, and stands pretty much head and shoulders above any other launch the mobile world has yet seen.

[streetlifestyle]

REAL flash coming to the iPhone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBktYBX ... r_embedded

[SRASC]

^^^ That was posted a while back.

[streetlifestyle]

oh... sry..

[zcrugby]

i no its not allowed to make negative comments but for these cases i cant help my self... viewtopic.php?p=4613805#p4613805 ... these ppl are tryin to sell ppl iphone 4's and givin them totally wrong information... and i find it unfair to just let ppl fall for these traps just because they dont no better.. the moderators can delete my commments if they want but try and have a heart na.. u no if u didnt no any better that u wud be glad for the information i give cause u urself dont want to get scammed by these fools.. i cant stress this anymore than i have already. NO ONE CAN SELL U AN IPHONE 4 AND SAY ITS UNLOCKED AND JAILBROKEN YET!!! AND NO ONE CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT WILL BE UNLOCKED AND JAILBROKEN!!! these ppl who work on these things are the smartest of smart when it comes to these things.. and they themselves cant set a date on when these things will be released.. so definately no one here can tell u u gettin a unlocked and jailbroken iphone 4 by the 27th (mind you its the 28th already) and no one can tell you that good sources said it will be unlocked in 3 weeks.

[SRASC]

iFixIt has posted an iPhone 4 repair manual which instructs you on replacing 10 different components including the front panel, rear panel, and battery.

You can find their walkthroughs using the link here



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Market research firm iSuppli has estimated that the iPhone 4 costs Apple as little as $187.51 to make.

The most expensive component of the handset is its "retina display" which costs $28.50 and may have been made by LG Display, according to iSuppli. Apple's internally designed A4 processor was made by Samsung Electronics and costs an estimated $10.75

"Over the years, the iPhone has generally tended to hover in the $170-to -$180 cost range because Apple seems to be trying to hit some kind of budget," Kevin Keller, who helped conduct the iSuppli teardown, says in an interview.

In 2009, iSuppli estimated that the iPhone 3GS cost about $179 for Apple to make. Those costs have since dropped to $134.

BusinessInsider notes that these costs don't include items such as labor, shipping, advertising, software development, or patent licensing.

iSuppli used a 16GB iPhone 4 in their analysis.

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Apple's problems with the new iPhone seem to be far from over. After issues relating to screen discoloration, scratches and reception were reported last week, we are now hearing about a new issue relating to the proximity sensor on iPhone 4.

According to messages posted on Apple discussion forums, the "super-sensitive" proximity sensor on the new iPhone could be causing calls to be unintentionally dialed, hung up or muted without user consent.


Here are a few reports from iPhone 4 users:

farfromovin reports:

"My wife and I both have the same exact problem with out phones. I was on an hour phone call this evening and my phone muted me 5 times, put me on hold and tried calling my work and then put me on hold and tried to send a text message to my work. This is very dissapointing. Ok, that last one with the text message is kind of funny. But for someone who has had apple products for years on end, this is about the worst experience I've had so far."

mdalegre complains:

"I'm having an issue with the Proximity Sensor not properly detecting when i'm holding my phone to my ear. I can confirm that the iPhone sensor is working by covering it with my finger, but when held to my face, the screen blinks as if it cannot decide to disable the screen or enable it. It results on me hanging up, putting calls on mute, and dialing numbers accidentally while i'm on the phone. This occurs on 90% of my calls. Is anyone else experiencing this issue. I would like to confirm whether this is a software issue (Proximity Sensor sensitivity too low) or a design issue (sensor now placed towards the end of the phone)."

sysrage reports:

"I am also having this problem. It's incredibly annoying. I've hung up on almost everybody I've called accidentally because of this. Speakerphone comes on every once in awhile. One, that doesn't make sense, is sometimes I'll somehow close the phone app with my face. I know I'm not pushing the home button, but I'll see the screen light up and I'll look and it's on springboard with the green bar to touch to re-open phone app. Really REALLY hope this is fixable with software and not a hardware defect."

YukonJR is also having the same issue:

"The proximity sensor on the new iPhone 4 has been changed somehow and the sensitivity is not set properly. I purchased three phones yesterday and all three act the same. The display activates at less then 1 inch from your head and is slow to deactivate. I have facetimed, muted, and kepressed all at least 12 times in the first day. Twice just while leaving the Apple store. While using the phone in a dark room, I noticed by simply rocking the phone left or right less then 1 inch the display would activate. Having purchased every version of iPhone on each launch date, I have never encountered this problem. Hopefully a firmware update will fix this!!!!!

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lauber1322 who was facing the issue seems to have found a workaround:

"experienced this issue yesterday as well and found that by readjusting the phone on my ear things worked out better. I think they moved the sensor to accommodate the camera. The previous phones all had the sensor exactly where the front facing camera now resides. I believe they relocated the sensor to directly above the speaker on top (which is why the white version) has those slits in the top over the earpiece. This is the same area that I covered last night which seemed to fix things."

hitnrun is also observing the same issue:

"Has anyone noticed that the sensor that tells the phone when your holding it up to your ear is extremely sensitive? I mean, NEVER before have I cheek dialed, hit the mute with my ear lobe, or hung up on someone inadvertently. However, 3 times in one call last night and twice today I hung up on people, all inside of a three minute call."

Apple may not have had the kind of opening that they would have liked, for iPhone 4 at least in terms of issues. We had also reported about several users noticing brown or yellow splotches on the retina display with few users also noticing scratches on the glass casing of the new iPhone. While these complaints may still be anomalies, many users are reporting the reception issues on the new iPhone along with the latest issue with the proximity sensor. We hope a software update to fix these issues will be released soon.

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While the new iPhone 4 from Apple sold a record 1.7 million units in its first three days, analysts on Wall Street believe that number would have been even higher if more supplies were available.

Piper Jaffray

Sales momentum for the iPhone 4 is expected to continue, analyst Gene Munster said, thanks to a number of catalysts in the near future. Chief among them is quick international expansion, with the new handset set to become available in 88 total countries by the end of September.

Apple also revealed last week that the white iPhone 4 will go on sale in July, as the handset didn't make last week's launch date due to manufacturing difficulties.

In addition, Munster believes that about 200,000 preorders (one-third of the 600,000 announced direct from Apple) were placed after shipments were pushed back to July. Currently, new iPhone 4 preorders from Apple carry a three-week wait.

Munster believes Apple will sell 9.5 million iPhones in the June quarter, which concludes this week. That number is unchanged, despite the fact that Apple's announcement of 1.7 million units sold is 200,000 greater than his previous high-end prediction. He said the estimate for the June quarter will remain unchanged because he had a strong iPhone 4 launch already built into assumptions for the three-month frame.

UBS Investment Research

Analyst Maynard Um expects Apple to sell just 8 million iPhones this quarter, down from the record 8.75 million sold last quarter. But when supply for the iPhone 4 catches up with demand next quarter, he sees Apple selling at least 9.8 million units -- and likely even more, as he admitted that number is "conservative."

"Demand continues to remain stronger than supply as most stores remained sold out or held minimal inventory throughout the weekend and Apple's online store currently has a 3 week wait for the device," Um wrote. "Our anecdotal checks indicate that demand will be robust for some time as the company plans to launch in an additional 18 countries in July (and 88 countries by the end of Sept.); we believe the company is currently selling through every device they are able to manufacture."

[Bezman]

So it start already

got a call from someone asking me to unlock their iPhone 4 when they get it next week, I told them that it is impossible, and they laughed and said - "well, i hear men unlocking them locally already and thought you would be able to do it"

I tried explaining that there will be no unlock for it, at least anytime soon, but the guy said the person who sold him the phone said it can be. - i said "OK - call me from it when you unlock it"

this is why i am not a mod, cause sellers like these making false promises would make me delete all their posts.

when i have them in my hands i will have to unlock and jailbreak them, the DEv team release a unlock to play who donated to them.

So i will keep you posted .

Phones should be here this week for sure unless customs sheit up

[zcrugby]

So it start already

got a call from someone asking me to unlock their iPhone 4 when they get it next week, I told them that it is impossible, and they laughed and said - "well, i hear men unlocking them locally already and thought you would be able to do it"

I tried explaining that there will be no unlock for it, at least anytime soon, but the guy said the person who sold him the phone said it can be. - i said "OK - call me from it when you unlock it"

this is why i am not a mod, cause sellers like these making false promises would make me delete all their posts.

when i have them in my hands i will have to unlock and jailbreak them, the DEv team release a unlock to play who donated to them.

So i will keep you posted .

Phones should be here this week for sure unless customs sheit up

ahahahahahahahahh these idiots.. i wish we cud really do something about it.. but we cant.. i shud go under cover for a bit an become a mod and jus start deleting... did firstchoicett really say that? LOL.. the devteam will never do anything of such sort because it will be leaked within a second and then it wud just be patched... duane y cant we do something about these false promises and statements? im sure if sumone were to say they were sellin a car that cud fly and play football you will delete it..

[SRASC]

& I am one. Oye. Well all you could do is hope these people do get a little educated on the unlock/jailbreak situation with regard to the iPhone 4, cause right now they are essentially buying a very pretty brick. If not, their loss unfortunately.

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Gary Katz of Mac M.D. has compiled a video showcasing the progression of Apple design over the last thirty years.

An Apple a day...Take a look at the design and progression of Apple computers from the Apple II to the current models. This video shows the computers I've kept for one reason or another morphing from one design to the next. It's a little over 30 years in a little over 2 minutes.

Katz is missing the unibody MacBook and Mac Mini, but it's a great collection nonetheless.



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Apple acknowledges the iPhone 4's reception problems. Their solution: Hold it differently or buy a case. But if this is an Apple design problem, they should fix it for real or give out cases for free.

We have evidence that proves that the iPhone 4 antenna problem was caused by an internal cultural problem at Apple, one that plagues more than just the iPhone 4, but the iPad and probably future Apple products as well.

A source in Apple's engineering team tells us that the kind of reception issues found in the iPhone 4 are a symptom of an internal issue that's been going on for a while—extremely inflexible mandates around the industrial design of products during their development. Jon Ive and his team of industrial designers can run "a little amok sometimes", they said, coming up with and steadfastly insisting on designs that, while aesthetically pleasing, cause the engineering team extreme difficulty in terms of implementation and maintaining the highest levels of functionality.

Apple engineers have evidently had a tough time trying to mitigate things, for example, like thermally-challenged designs and issues related to the fact that wireless signals don't go through metal. So perhaps this inordinate power wielded by the industrial design team at Apple is at least one factor contributing to a phone design that allows people's hands to interfere with the antenna.

Now, Apple is facing public backlash over the consequences of those design decisions.

It's a very real problem
On top of the many user submitted complaints the press received, many with video proof, we took an informal poll. The results: About 40 percent of iPhone 4 owners responded that they had seen the issue first hand. Other sites report similar percentages. Righmobilephone—a cellphone comparison site in the UK—took a pool among 836 iPhone 4 users, finding 93% affected by the problem (a theory here is that people in the US notice it less because they blame AT&T's traditionally lousy network). Of those, 63% were "particularly angered" about Steve Jobs' response, which suggested users should "avoid holding the phone in that way" to avoid loss of signal.

This is an unprecedented amount of user complaints. In our daily lives here in Gizmodo, we have experienced the problem many times, ruining an otherwise great experience. Some of us didn't run into the problem at first, but after a few days, we clearly noticed it. At this point, it seems to us that the question is not if people would experience the problem or not, but when would they experience it.

Apple's arguments and solutions
Apple argues that all cellphones' signal drops when you touch their antenna. That is true. But the difference here is that the rest of the phones don't have the antenna all around the phone itself, where the user is touching it at all times.

That's why Steve Jobs' "hold it in another way" suggestion is not a good solution. Users should be able to hold the iPhone in a natural way, whatever that way is for them. Otherwise, it's bad industrial design because it goes against the user's self-expression. It's a case of form not following function. If this were a case of the problem showing up in a few awkward, unnatural hand positions, that would be something. But the problem can be triggered by the way a right handed user generally holds the iPhone: in their left hand on the side and bottom, pecking at the screen with the other. In other words, the regular way most of us hold an iPhone when using it as a smartphone instead of a voice phone. Holding the phone any other way is unnatural, and in practical usage scenarios, unreasonable.

Apple's other solution is that people should get a case. They sell one. The bumper—barring some fix at the factory—is the only real Apple solution for this design problem.

The real solution
If Apple doesn't fix this design flaw or provides any technical fix, then they must give free bumpers to every iPhone 4 user. If they say the bumper fixes a problem that is caused by a faulty design, then it only makes sense that they should provide the bumper for free. End of the story.



The bumpers will negate the iPhone's beautiful design, one of its major selling points, but at least we won't have signals dropping. It may even help preventing their other design problem: The iPhone 4 is more fragile than the previous generations because of its glass backside. In addition to that, it also shatters on shock more easily because of the inner tension of the new glass material, which in addition is all oleophobic, making it more slippery.

Every product launch has its bugs. We've seen a lot this time. Many issues, like the yellow screens, will go away as manufacturing fine tunes and adjusts to solve the problems. But the antenna issue is a fundamental one, a design flaw, that won't go away as easily without adjusting the product in a deeper way.

If this was some junk phone, it wouldn't matter. But the iPhone 4 is perhaps the best cellphone there is thanks to its software and apps, its Retina display, and its camera. Some even say the reception is better than the old phone's under circumstances when the antennas aren't being shorted. So with all these great things, it's terrible that buyers should have this excellent phone ruined for them because of a single, but serious, design problem. And even worse that Apple should suggest users use their phones in unnatural ways or shell out $30—for what is essentially a double wide livestrong armband—to fix it.

Sign the petition
That's why we all should ask Apple to partially solve the phone's design problem by giving away free bumpers for every single iPhone 4 user out there. Together, we can get Apple fix their problem, whatever the solution may be, instead of dodging the issue.

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Apple has posted a support document outlining how corporate users can make FaceTime calls from behind a firewall.

To use FaceTime on a restricted Wi-Fi network, port forwarding must be enabled for ports 53, 80, 443, 4080, 5223, and 16393-16472 (UDP).

If you do not know how to do this or do not have administrative privileges, contact your network administrator.

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[Bezman]

i can delete any post, thread, hell i can delete an entire forum if i wanted, but I am not a "mod" nor an "Admin", i'm a developer, so its wrong for me to do things like that unless its a special case.

i dont know if its him who sold the guy the phone, and prob not, but sellers like this really pisss me off dread.. imagine you spend that money and cant unlock it for a year or some shiet..

[SRASC]

Here's a clipping from an email I just received from ModMyi.com



^^^ by the way is it just me or is the image above 'moving' slightly?

[Swisha]

lol @ these power sellers and their iPhone 4's

expect lots of 'delays' and 'customs playing up' excuses from now...

[zcrugby]

lol @ these power sellers and their iPhone 4's

expect lots of 'delays' and 'customs playing up' excuses from now...

Lol i wont put it past these lowlifes to say that the shipment got lost.

[M_2NR]

i can delete any post, thread, hell i can delete an entire forum if i wanted, but I am not a "mod" nor an "Admin", i'm a developer, so its wrong for me to do things like that unless its a special case.

i dont know if its him who sold the guy the phone, and prob not, but sellers like this really pisss me off dread.. imagine you spend that money and cant unlock it for a year or some shiet..

sigh it sad to see these men doing this. Thing is, they beating the system as they are advertising at their own risk.

The most we can do is tell there buyers (if they ask) that it ain't possible.

[Swisha]

Buh that man seriously come & say d dev team release an unlock to ppl who donate to them?
THAT is blatant false advertising!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad, they are the ones who deal with issues like false advertising, fraudulent sales etc.

it would be interesting to hear the seller's response to the allegations.

[zcrugby]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad, they are the ones who deal with issues like false advertising, fraudulent sales etc.

it would be interesting to hear the seller's response to the allegations.

Duane absolute no disrespect here.. but i cud care lesss who gets scammed by this man.. once i no i warned them i gud.. but for ppl who didnt see the warnings... i dont admin a site but i no most probably if i was the admin of this site like u are and people produced so much evidence of this man bein a fraud i wudve called consumer affairs myself... think of it.. wen those ppl realise they get scammed.. u no trinis.. they not guna say they get scammed by firstchoicett.. they guna say they got scammed by sumbody on TRINITUNER... and da jus guna bring down d sites name.. an non of uf wants this to happen.. this man just ruinin business for other people cause now people guna be more wary wen they buyin from tuner cause they no the moderators and admins dont do anything to stop people who tryin to scam them.. and then in the long run it guna open up more doors for men just like this to come out wit more scams.. and they wud get smarter and then people just guna get scammed left right and center... i urge u to please act on this.. remember every big thing starts of small.. trinidad didnt start of wit more than a person each day gettin murdered.. but we did nothing to prevent it an look where we are now..

[SRASC]

Maybe a sticky concerning that ^^^ wouldn't be bad in the Miscellaneous section

[M_2NR]

Maybe a sticky concerning that ^^^ wouldn't be bad in the Miscellaneous section

x2

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad, they are the ones who deal with issues like false advertising, fraudulent sales etc.

it would be interesting to hear the seller's response to the allegations.

Duane absolute no disrespect here.. but i cud care lesss who gets scammed by this man.. once i no i warned them i gud.. but for ppl who didnt see the warnings... i dont admin a site but i no most probably if i was the admin of this site like u are and people produced so much evidence of this man bein a fraud i wudve called consumer affairs myself... think of it.. wen those ppl realise they get scammed.. u no trinis.. they not guna say they get scammed by firstchoicett.. they guna say they got scammed by sumbody on TRINITUNER... and da jus guna bring down d sites name.. an non of uf wants this to happen.. this man just ruinin business for other people cause now people guna be more wary wen they buyin from tuner cause they no the moderators and admins dont do anything to stop people who tryin to scam them.. and then in the long run it guna open up more doors for men just like this to come out wit more scams.. and they wud get smarter and then people just guna get scammed left right and center... i urge u to please act on this.. remember every big thing starts of small.. trinidad didnt start of wit more than a person each day gettin murdered.. but we did nothing to prevent it an look where we are now..

why don't you call them?

we act equally across the board.
We DO NOT investigate peoples sales.
if we did it for one seller then it would only be fair that we did it for all and we are not able to do that.

caveat emptor

[zcrugby]

Maybe a sticky concerning that ^^^ wouldn't be bad in the Miscellaneous section

x2

x3

[zcrugby]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad, they are the ones who deal with issues like false advertising, fraudulent sales etc.

it would be interesting to hear the seller's response to the allegations.

Duane absolute no disrespect here.. but i cud care lesss who gets scammed by this man.. once i no i warned them i gud.. but for ppl who didnt see the warnings... i dont admin a site but i no most probably if i was the admin of this site like u are and people produced so much evidence of this man bein a fraud i wudve called consumer affairs myself... think of it.. wen those ppl realise they get scammed.. u no trinis.. they not guna say they get scammed by firstchoicett.. they guna say they got scammed by sumbody on TRINITUNER... and da jus guna bring down d sites name.. an non of uf wants this to happen.. this man just ruinin business for other people cause now people guna be more wary wen they buyin from tuner cause they no the moderators and admins dont do anything to stop people who tryin to scam them.. and then in the long run it guna open up more doors for men just like this to come out wit more scams.. and they wud get smarter and then people just guna get scammed left right and center... i urge u to please act on this.. remember every big thing starts of small.. trinidad didnt start of wit more than a person each day gettin murdered.. but we did nothing to prevent it an look where we are now..

why don't you call them?

we act equally across the board.
We DO NOT investigate peoples sales.
if we did it for one seller then it would only be fair that we did it for all and we are not able to do that.

caveat emptor

as i said i cudnt care less who gets scamed.. u on the other hand shud be concerend about the good name of ur site.. we have done all the investigating for you.. u just have to do the reporting... and no one is callin any other seller a scam and has proof to back them.. thats y u shud do it to this seller..

[SRASC]

Google as announced a mobile version of the Google Docs Viewer for Android, iPhone and iPad to help you view PDFs, .ppt, .doc and .docx files you’ve uploaded to your documents list, without needing to download the file.

With our mobile viewer you can switch quickly between pages and pan/zoom within a page. On your iPhone and iPad, you can pinch to zoom in or out. You can try it out by going to docs.google.com on your Android-powered device, iPad or iPhone and select any document in these formats that you've previously uploaded.



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Apple is telling marketers that the iPad won't get iAd until November, according to Advertising Age.

Campbell is still white-boarding concepts and probably won't have an ad live until September -- the start, as he says, of "soup season." Apple has said the iAds would start appearing on the iPad, as well as iPhones and iPod Touch devices, in November.

The appearance of iAd on the iPad would likely coincide with the launch of iOS 4 for iPad. Unfortunately, those looking for the added capabilities of the new firmware on their tablet will have to wait a while.

Advertising Age also notes that although iAds is set to launch for the iPhone in a few days that some advertisers are weeks -- perhaps months -- away from having an iAd in the system.

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Apple has accidentally hinted at iWork for the iPhone in yet another discovery on international Apple Store sites, according to MacRumors.

Clicking the "Learn more" link for AppleCare on the ordering page reveals additional information on the program, with a section devoted to software support specifically mentioning "Using iWork for iPhone and other Apple-branded iPhone apps" as a topic users for which users can receive assistance.

Several weeks ago, Apple's iPhone 4 Features Page briefly showed a screenshot with a dialog box asking if the user would like to open a mail attachment in Keynote. It was quickly changed after the media picked up on it.

[Swisha]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad

yeah ok, like them will know wtf we talking about

[SRASC]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad

yeah ok, like them will know wtf we talking about

I was thinking that myself.

[zcrugby]

Call consumer affairs or fraud squad

yeah ok, like them will know wtf we talking about

I was thinking that myself.

consumer affairs officer:so wat u tryin to tell me is that this man sayin he cud brake out of jail before anyone? cause he donate money to a devil team? wat da have to do wit me?