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"Warships" in the region?

Postby redmanjp » October 9th, 2018, 8:19 pm

Just watched a youtube video questioning the amount of 'unspecified' ships close to Grenada. Dozens of them.



Also check out marinetraffic.com and filter out all known ships. I just want to know if that's normal or what.
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Re: Warships in the region?

Postby grimer » October 9th, 2018, 8:23 pm

Saw this two days ago, the speaker said its something to do with Venezuela

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Postby Dizzy28 » October 9th, 2018, 8:32 pm

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Postby The_Honourable » October 9th, 2018, 8:54 pm

Rumours fly of US naval build up off the coast of Venezuela

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ST GEORGE’S, Grenada — According to a YouTube video, an American fleet is advancing towards Venezuela and at this moment is parked off the coast of the island of Grenada. However, locals who frequently travel through the area, from fisher-folk, persons that use small aircraft, to officials with regional carrier LIAT have not seen or confirmed anything that the video in question suggests might be taking place.

The 12-minute video, posted over three days ago, is going viral as it shows the marine vessel tracker “Marine Traffic” using its filter features to claim that the ships highlighted in grey must be naval warships because they are unspecified and have no distinguishing features that show up on radar.

However, a closer examination of the marine traffic in the particularly area around Grenada and Venezuela shows that some of the ships in grey that are supposedly unspecified actually appear to be an assortment of pleasure craft, small trading vessels and other “unregistered” craft as small as fishing boats and skiffs.

Other ships, even when further unspecified, have a draft of under two meters (approximately six feet) and are too shallow to be military vessels or large aircraft carriers of any kind — the average draft of a US aircraft-carrier is approximately ten meters and the average draft of a frigate is four meters.

Further, reports that some 30 US Navy vessels (representing over ten percent of the entire US Navy) have somehow sailed into the area unobserved are, to say the least, unrealistic.

Hitherto, the US Navy has had no presence whatsoever in the region, with the sole exception of its humanitarian relief vessel USS Comfort, and the US Coast Guard had just six cutters deployed to cover the entire Caribbean.

In September, the Council on Foreign Relations Latin American specialist, Shannon O’Neil, highlighted the potential risk of a US-led invasion of Venezuela and said that it is “unrealistic and would be counterproductive”, despite ongoing calls for the US government and President Donald Trump to conduct a military intervention – even after leaked conversations about a possible invasion between Trump and military staff became public.

A US-led invasion of Venezuelan also has strong support from US senator for Florida, Marco Rubio, and the Organisation of American States (OAS) secretary general, Luis Almagro.

O’Neil, however, highlighted that not only would a US invasion of Venezuela be unpalatable for American citizens, but an invasion would need a similar size troop size as that of the Iraq invasion in a slightly larger country.

Also, as a practical matter, US troops would not be generally welcomed in the country by remaining residents amidst the crisis and economic blight, as recent polls indicate.

Venezuelans are heavily armed and, due to the collapse of the government and state apparatus, have resorted to Afghan warlord fiefdoms and criminal, Mafioso style enclaves, which leaves American troops at the risk of long and burdensome guerrilla warfare in a dense jungle with permeable borders.

Also, regional support from other Latin American and Caribbean nations is not at all sure, with the fallout unpredictable and alliances unreliable.

Coincidentally, there is a Chinese naval vessel called the “Peace Ark”, a military aid ship and floating hospital, docked in Grenada and set to leave the island on Monday afternoon after making an additional earlier stop in Venezuela in the latter half of September to assist with humanitarian issues in the beleaguered country.

As for the efficacy and use of the marine traffic website, the US Navy did start using automatic identification system (AIS) transmitters after several fatal collisions between US navy ships and other civilian craft.

The AIS transmissions of US naval ships can be tracked, along with thousands of civilian ships, but will only take place when the US Navy ships are in waters that have high volumes of traffic such as ports and major sea lanes.

The US Navy will reportedly discontinue and deactivate broadcasts once the ships reach open or less crowded waters, and would most likely deactivate tracking during times of war or other military incursions and support efforts.

Source: https://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/2018/1 ... venezuela/

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Warships in the region?

Postby K74T » October 9th, 2018, 9:10 pm

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Re: Warships in the region?

Postby Rainman » October 9th, 2018, 9:12 pm

Must be true, because it's on YouTube.

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Postby Gladiator » October 9th, 2018, 9:27 pm

Gary call in reinforcements to deal with Roget and the gang?

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Re: Warships in the region?

Postby mero » October 9th, 2018, 9:56 pm

Weed prices going back up again

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Re: Warships in the region?

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K74T wrote:Seawise Sounds Ship Show and Sound Off

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Re: Warships in the region?

Postby redmanjp » October 10th, 2018, 12:05 am

Rainman wrote:Must be true, because it's on YouTube.


I simply asked the question- oh and marinetraffic.com as well is showing the ships

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Re: Warships in the region?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » October 10th, 2018, 5:00 am

mero wrote:Weed prices going back up again


this

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Postby Bamboo boy » October 11th, 2018, 10:06 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
mero wrote:Weed prices going back up again


this



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Re: "Warships" in the region?

Postby Gem_in_i » October 11th, 2018, 1:27 pm

The US always around for yrs now.

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Re: "Warships" in the region?

Postby screwbash » October 12th, 2018, 7:23 am

yesena gonzales favebook post say americas going tuh war with venezuela an trini and guyana will be ketch in the cross fire. it is the beginnin of world war 3 as china and russia will come to venezuela aid.

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Postby sindread » October 12th, 2018, 5:20 pm

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Re: "Warships" in the region?

Postby airuma » October 14th, 2018, 10:20 am

screwbash wrote:yesena gonzales favebook post say americas going tuh war with venezuela an trini and guyana will be ketch in the cross fire. it is the beginnin of world war 3 as china and russia will come to venezuela aid.

Looks like YouTube is a crystal ball!

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