UK approves molnupiravir pill to treat Covid - NOT a vaccine alternative

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The first pill designed to treat symptomatic Covid has been approved by the UK medicines regulator.

The tablet - molnupiravir - will be given twice a day to vulnerable patients recently diagnosed with the disease.

In clinical trials the pill, originally developed to treat flu, cut the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half.

Molnupiravir, developed by the US drug companies Merck, Sharp and Dohme (MSD) and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, is the first antiviral medication for Covid which can be taken as a pill rather than injected or given intravenously.

"It seems likely that it will be restricted for use by those at highest risk of disease complications - for example older adults with heart, lung or kidney disease, diabetes or cancer."

The UK government has not disclosed how much its initial contract for 480,000 courses of molnupiravir is worth. But US authorities recently made an advance purchase of 1.7 million courses at a cost of roughly $1.2 billion, or US$700 (£513) for each patient.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59163899

[sMASH]

just take the ivermectin, it cheaper.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

just take the ivermectin, it cheaper.

You didn't read the article

The company that makes ivermectin stated that
No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/

[sucre251]

saw this title and immediately knew i had to take a 5 minutes to make this image for the band of artard brothers of high school chemistry rejects and failures like smash, hover, eitech, et. al.

continue the discussion though.

[sMASH]

1000lbs per course. ivermectin is a tt$1 per mg. u need 2mg per 10kgs. so for the average 160lb person, thats 16mgs so tt$16 every 3months.

[Kenjo]

1000lbs per course. ivermectin is a tt$1 per mg. u need 2mg per 10kgs. so for the average 160lb person, thats 16mgs so tt$16 every 3months.

#bigpharma again right ?

[sMASH]

just take the ivermectin, it cheaper.

You didn't read the article

The company that makes ivermectin stated that
No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/

thats because no one is conducting studies in is PROPHYLACTC use. every study is is for it treatment of an already established infection.
the ivermectin company, without any info to substantiate that it works for covid willl come out and say its good for covid.
that statement to say 'dont use it for covid' is just corporate CYA, so they could telll the courts that they never told people it could be used for covid.

all the data is not with trials, its only with stats of people where ivermectin use is ALREADY established, and the correlation with the less than expected cases.
no one with a license can come out and use that and say 'ivermectin good to prevent covid'. the most that any self respecting professional coudl say is that the statistics are interesting.

but nobody is studying tthe use of ivermectin as a means to prevent infection. any studies that are being carried out are after infection, when it is of little benefit.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

thats because no one is conducting studies in is PROPHYLACTC use.

Why do you think that is?

[st7]

inb4thefrothers

[eitech]

saw this title and immediately knew i had to take a 5 minutes to make this image for the band of artard brothers of high school chemistry rejects and failures like smash, hover, eitech, et. al.

continue the discussion though.

Wow that is amazing i didnt know we had a keyboard chemist in here as well. So please explain mr bill nye cuz i never did chemistry.

[sMASH]

thats because no one is conducting studies in is PROPHYLACTC use.

Why do you think that is?

Any one thwt advertised they doing sutudies were for the treatment of covid cases, non for preventative.
Thr reason being that they will not intentionally expose persons to the virus cause its 'deadly'.

I Actually emailed one of them looking for subjects, and they conconfirmed their study was not to show prophylactic performance.



Th only data u will get available is coincidental, of places already with high ivermectin use. And then u will have to prove they have less spread. That is challenging, considering those places alwoipd be poor, not enough resources to render simple health care far less for collecting data, and ivermectin so cheap it don't have money to make compared to pushing vaccine and branded medication

[timelapse]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

[Dohplaydat]

thats because no one is conducting studies in is PROPHYLACTC use.

Why do you think that is?

Any one thwt advertised they doing sutudies were for the treatment of covid cases, non for preventative.
Thr reason being that they will not intentionally expose persons to the virus cause its 'deadly'.

I Actually emailed one of them looking for subjects, and they conconfirmed their study was not to show prophylactic performance.



Th only data u will get available is coincidental, of places already with high ivermectin use. And then u will have to prove they have less spread. That is challenging, considering those places alwoipd be poor, not enough resources to render simple health care far less for collecting data, and ivermectin so cheap it don't have money to make compared to pushing vaccine and branded medication

Here's some data for you:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7968425/


Basically little to no effect observed, but still warrants some more analysis.

[sMASH]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

[redmanjp]

Studies can be carried out without intentionally exposing ppl to covid. How u think the vaccine trials were carried out? Vaccines are prophylactics.

They can simply give ppl in 1 group the meds and ppl in the 2nd group a placebo. Then both groups live their lives while they observe how many ppl in each group gets covid and how many end up in hospital by simply being exposed in the community, not by directly giving them the virus. The difference in % in each group is used to calculate the efficacy.

[widdyphuck]

So persons taking a pill without knowing what's inside but don't want to take the vaccine.
Make it make sense.

[timelapse]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

Endovet?

[sMASH]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

Endovet?

If u want to save money for the same effect


But real ting ain't that hard to get off brand

[De Dragon]

Fluvoxamine. The perfect treatment for emo Covid patients
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... MQznMmvb0y

[Trinispougla]

The first pill designed to treat symptomatic Covid has been approved by the UK medicines regulator.

The tablet - molnupiravir - will be given twice a day to vulnerable patients recently diagnosed with the disease.

In clinical trials the pill, originally developed to treat flu, cut the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half.

Molnupiravir, developed by the US drug companies Merck, Sharp and Dohme (MSD) and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, is the first antiviral medication for Covid which can be taken as a pill rather than injected or given intravenously.

"It seems likely that it will be restricted for use by those at highest risk of disease complications - for example older adults with heart, lung or kidney disease, diabetes or cancer."

The UK government has not disclosed how much its initial contract for 480,000 courses of molnupiravir is worth. But US authorities recently made an advance purchase of 1.7 million courses at a cost of roughly $1.2 billion, or US$700 (£513) for each patient.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59163899

This is what scientists should have been working on first. And they marketed the vaccine as if it is the be all and end all of the pandemic. Now western Europe, the most vaccinated region on esrth is once again an epicenter of the pandemic. But better late than never.

[eitech]

saw this title and immediately knew i had to take a 5 minutes to make this image for the band of artard brothers of high school chemistry rejects and failures like smash, hover, eitech, et. al.

continue the discussion though.

I still waiting for this chemistry lesson. Somebody else must be able to explain.

[Trinispougla]

saw this title and immediately knew i had to take a 5 minutes to make this image for the band of artard brothers of high school chemistry rejects and failures like smash, hover, eitech, et. al.

continue the discussion though.

I still waiting for this chemistry lesson. Somebody else must be able to explain.

Never liked Organic chemistry. Would have gotten a distinction if i didn't skip that part on the finals

[aaron17]

This thread is rehashing what is known already....just move to antivaxer or covid thread. Move along

[sMASH]

Too much money to make selling vaccines to governments and creating new threads for ad revenue

[timelapse]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

Endovet?

If u want to save money for the same effect


But real ting ain't that hard to get off brand

IMG_20211104_234043.jpg

But it doesn't work .So why take it? You got worms?

[sMASH]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

Endovet?

If u want to save money for the same effect


But real ting ain't that hard to get off brand IMG_20211104_234043.jpg

But it doesn't work .So why take it? You got worms?

just think of it as taking sumting and still having to wear mask, sanitize and social distance.

[sMASH]

where ur politics and marketing take the place of data and analysis, viz merck

politically and economically, we cant keep lock down. but eventually ur spread and hospitalizations would go up with the habbits.
so, reopen and blame of the cases on not fully vaxed people

[timelapse]

Ivermectin doesn't work for Covid.Build a bridge and get over it.Move along

or buy the branded stuff at branded prices.

Endovet?

If u want to save money for the same effect


But real ting ain't that hard to get off brand IMG_20211104_234043.jpg

But it doesn't work .So why take it? You got worms?

just think of it as taking sumting and still having to wear mask, sanitize and social distance.

Why you don't just take a Zentel?

[redmanjp]

Pfizer throwing its hat into the ring for treatments too

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59178291

Covid: Pfizer says antiviral pill 89% effective in high risk cases
By Jim Reed and Philippa Roxby
BBC News
5 November 2021, 11:42 GMT
Updated 48 minutes ago

An experimental pill to treat Covid developed by the US company Pfizer cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by 89% in vulnerable adults, clinical trial results suggest.

The drug - Paxlovid - is intended for use soon after symptoms develop in people at high risk of severe disease.

It comes a day after the UK medicines regulator approved a similar treatment from Merck Sharp and Dohme (MSD).

Pfizer says it stopped trials early as the initial results were so positive.

[redmanjp]

Of course we have to wait eons for WHO to approve so I hope the unvaxxed doh tell themselves they go wait. The Delta wave will kill another 1500-2000 while we waiting.