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Postby Sabot » November 20th, 2008, 9:34 am

reiXmann wrote:Image

Lachesis is a genus of venomous pit vipers found in the remote, forested areas in Central America, South America and the island of Trinidad (where it is known as the Mapepire zanana). The generic name refers to one of the Three Fates in Greek mythology; goddesses who determined the length of the thread of life.[2] Three species are currently recognized.[3]


yep..striking resemblance


Seen a lot of these in the forest already. Try not to interfere with this if you do see one, putting this in bucket an ting is not advisable- instant blue fly if u get hit. If you are so unlucky to get bitten, be sure to take it with you to the hospital so they will see what it is and most likely give you the wrong injection...if u still alive.

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Postby Razkal » November 20th, 2008, 12:21 pm

^No local health care institutions has enough antivenin to properly treat a bite from a Bushmaster or Mapepire, new world pit vipers inject alot of venom once they get a proper hold on you, but enough to kill you is injected once the fangs break the skin surface, it'll just take a bit longer...

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Postby Michael Knight... » November 20th, 2008, 1:41 pm

You have a pic, it looks nice and pretty. Now kill it's ass please.
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Postby noobie » November 20th, 2008, 2:45 pm

Razkal wrote:^No local health care institutions has enough antivenin to properly treat a bite from a Bushmaster or Mapepire, new world pit vipers inject alot of venom once they get a proper hold on you, but enough to kill you is injected once the fangs break the skin surface, it'll just take a bit longer...


This is why vision 2020 is a load of bullsh** and we are a third world country, regardless of how many CL55 AMGs, ferraris and multi storey buildings we have.

Trinidad and Tobago does not have readily available anti-venom for the few poisonous snakes we are known to have locally.

That's just ridiculous.

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Postby streetbeastINC. » November 20th, 2008, 2:58 pm

Razkal wrote:^No local health care institutions has enough antivenin to properly treat a bite from a Bushmaster or Mapepire, new world pit vipers inject alot of venom once they get a proper hold on you, but enough to kill you is injected once the fangs break the skin surface, it'll just take a bit longer...


THats not True Bro-- a bite from these also depends on the time of the bite to the time of treatment.B/p etc..... the venom travels up the vein actually burns the flesh--like acid...people who have recovered from these and where the venom has had extensive travel. usually remain scarred -- there is an imprint of the breakdown of flesh as it travels

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Postby noobie » November 20th, 2008, 3:24 pm

So...port of spain general has enough Anti-Venom to treat a poisonous snake bite? Mount Hope? St. Clair? Westshore? Where have it?

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Postby varung » November 20th, 2008, 3:38 pm

d ting heading for yuh house and u studying pic-ta

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Postby princessanna » December 1st, 2008, 12:17 pm

It's a Brown-banded Water Snake (Helicops angulatus - scientific name) so if u still have it i suggest that u put it in some water. It grows to a maximum length of 78 cm and feeds on fish and frogs. Hope u got all the info u need...glad to help and please don't kill it

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Postby AllTrac » December 1st, 2008, 2:58 pm

lmao :lol: :lol: :lol: she holding dem snake like ah princess :lol:

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Postby Razkal » December 1st, 2008, 3:25 pm

streetbeastINC. wrote:
Razkal wrote:^No local health care institutions has enough antivenin to properly treat a bite from a Bushmaster or Mapepire, new world pit vipers inject alot of venom once they get a proper hold on you, but enough to kill you is injected once the fangs break the skin surface, it'll just take a bit longer...


THats not True Bro-- a bite from these also depends on the time of the bite to the time of treatment.B/p etc..... the venom travels up the vein actually burns the flesh--like acid...people who have recovered from these and where the venom has had extensive travel. usually remain scarred -- there is an imprint of the breakdown of flesh as it travels


I'm talking about being bitten by a pit viper in general, i see what you're saying, but it seems more applicable to individual cases.
From a statistical view, each time one of these snakes punctures your skin with their fangs enough venom to kill you is injected, most of the time a person is bit, it's out of defense and it's a "dry bite" where no venom is pumped through, but residual venom in the fangs still show their potency (these dry bites account for most of the survival cases where minimal damage is done from a snake reputed to have venom that dissolves flesh and causes circulatory failure etc).

Viper venom typically (as each species will have small differences in how the venom affects living tissue) attacks the circulatory system, breaks down protein that acts as the foundation for living tissue resulting in internal bleeding, necrosis etc etc, respiratory failure occurs as well in some cases, bite location dependent i guess. The venom also accelerates the heart rate (body's reaction to alien chemicals i think) which makes it cycle through the body alot faster than usual, which is why the mouse on discovery dies like less than a minute after the viper snags it.

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Postby noobie » March 9th, 2009, 7:04 am

noobie wrote:
This is why vision 2020 is a load of bullsh** and we are a third world country, regardless of how many CL55 AMGs, ferraris and multi storey buildings we have.

Trinidad and Tobago does not have readily available anti-venom for the few poisonous snakes we are known to have locally.

That's just ridiculous.


To resurrect this thread in light of recent news reports, sadly I was all too right way back in December 2008. A man died from snake bite and it's been revealed that only a hospital in Sangre Grande has the facilities or the anti venom for poisonous snakes in the entire Trinidad and Tobago.


It makes no sense going to any other health facility when bitten by a venomous snake, since the only unit equipped to deal with such cases is based at the Sangre Grande District Hospital.

Dr Frank Singh, public relations officer of the Trinidad and Tobago Medical Association, said on Friday that the Sangre Grande-based toxicology management centre is the only one to administer anti-venom, which is used in the treatment of venomous snake bites.

Singh said there were four types of anti-venom available at the institution. "But in order for doctors to know which anti-venom to use they need to know the type of snake. And I think the authorities should have made this known because people, even doctors, are not aware of this centre,'' he said.


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161449241

Is this not a backayard third world nation? Why we in denial as Trinis?
How you feel as a tourist coming to a country, perhaps to enjoy some nature knowing that in the entire country there's no anti venom except in Sangre Grande, and that it takes hours to drive anywhere because of traffic?

And who's fault is this? Government? Yes definitely. But what the hell are those in the Health Authorities doing??? They know this situation exists...but they do nothing? No anti venom is stored at various locations around the country? WTF?

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Postby djblademan » March 9th, 2009, 8:46 am

carry it to d zoo...they knows wat best to do with it, who knows they might give yuh some $ for it!

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Postby ray d saint » March 9th, 2009, 8:58 am

Well ne one can help out here.... it was found wondering on Mayaro beach, it was about 9" long, no fatter than a pencil, totally black and for its size real agressive...

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Postby noobie » March 9th, 2009, 9:05 am

Maybe it was aggressive because you were trying to crush it with a plastic water bottle.
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Postby ray d saint » March 9th, 2009, 9:07 am

no we did not, we caught it and let it go in de bushes.... ah little chile running on de beach nearly step on it boi..... :| :|

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Postby noobie » March 9th, 2009, 9:11 am

ray786 wrote:no we did not, we caught it and let it go in de bushes.... ah little chile running on de beach nearly step on it boi..... :| :|


You could see the indentation of the water bottle in the sand under the snake. somebody hold it down with the water bottle your honour!

The snake probably felt it was being crushed..its life was threatened...so it acted aggressively.

You know if snakes could talk it would have call out for a squad and all ah alyuh would have had to run! Then you could have explained to all the macajuel and mapapire that you was going to let they brethren go!

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Postby sensiman » March 10th, 2009, 12:07 am

noobie wrote:
noobie wrote:
This is why vision 2020 is a load of bullsh** and we are a third world country, regardless of how many CL55 AMGs, ferraris and multi storey buildings we have.

Trinidad and Tobago does not have readily available anti-venom for the few poisonous snakes we are known to have locally.

That's just ridiculous.


To resurrect this thread in light of recent news reports, sadly I was all too right way back in December 2008. A man died from snake bite and it's been revealed that only a hospital in Sangre Grande has the facilities or the anti venom for poisonous snakes in the entire Trinidad and Tobago.


It makes no sense going to any other health facility when bitten by a venomous snake, since the only unit equipped to deal with such cases is based at the Sangre Grande District Hospital.

Dr Frank Singh, public relations officer of the Trinidad and Tobago Medical Association, said on Friday that the Sangre Grande-based toxicology management centre is the only one to administer anti-venom, which is used in the treatment of venomous snake bites.

Singh said there were four types of anti-venom available at the institution. "But in order for doctors to know which anti-venom to use they need to know the type of snake. And I think the authorities should have made this known because people, even doctors, are not aware of this centre,'' he said.


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161449241

Is this not a backayard third world nation? Why we in denial as Trinis?
How you feel as a tourist coming to a country, perhaps to enjoy some nature knowing that in the entire country there's no anti venom except in Sangre Grande, and that it takes hours to drive anywhere because of traffic?

And who's fault is this? Government? Yes definitely. But what the hell are those in the Health Authorities doing??? They know this situation exists...but they do nothing? No anti venom is stored at various locations around the country? WTF?


From my experience, POSGH or at least C40 always kept a minimal amount of antivenin (crotalidae)in stock. That was back in 2006 though.

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Re: Any snake experts here can identify?

Postby heavy rollers » September 15th, 2011, 5:01 pm

Mountain Keelback water snake (just another name)

http://www.ttnaturelink.com/ttnaturetri ... ido-icacos

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » September 15th, 2011, 7:28 pm

wtf??? just so just so man....

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