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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby eliteauto » August 22nd, 2010, 9:48 am

Oh and btw the previous salary of Mr Gibbs in Canada was less than half his proposed local salary here

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby Monk BANzai » August 22nd, 2010, 10:07 am

dis·in·gen·u·ous/ˌdisinˈjenyo͞oəs/
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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby eliteauto » August 22nd, 2010, 10:10 am

am I incorrect?

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby Monk BANzai » August 22nd, 2010, 10:16 am

Dint know wha the werd meant.....now i can reread ur contribution with a clear head..

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » August 22nd, 2010, 10:23 am

The corrupt senior high ranking officials making this CoP thin a problem because they afraid of being held accountable for their activities.

They made choosing a foreign CoP a problem....now they making the salary a problem.....and im sure they would make other issues a problem :roll:

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby eliteauto » August 22nd, 2010, 10:33 am

if there is corruption in the Service it should be forcefully rooted out, however I don't think that is the reason for opposition, nor have I seen the opposition from senior officers or high ranking officials that you are alluding to UML, would you care to elucidate your point by showing me?

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby RASC » August 22nd, 2010, 11:03 am

The PP lemmings will not in anyway find a problem with this situation. Manning's gone and anything is anything now, 'cause (obviously) it's better than anything presented before.

They're scared to announced their grievances with their party for fear of being labeled a "PNMite" by their fellow sycophants. Most of their supporters are under immense pressure from their peers to show undying support or face extreme social discrimination.

There is a very huge core of PP supporters who are NOT pragmatic and are increasingly emotional and romantic...aka they romanticise the politics of the land instead of applying logic and reason void of much emotion.

The 2010/2011 budget will be a clear sign of the things to come. No new taxes, no new industry and most of our companies (For Example: Petrotrin) are running on ghost boards, inflation is above 12% and the crime situation? 600 is the new marker. Good luck finding a PP supporter who has a problem with the way things are going. Romantics are often blind to the obvious...

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby KURMAman » August 22nd, 2010, 12:38 pm

Smokey wrote:Ppl making a fuss over the top CoP making 100K+?

Wow....most of you really must be out of it, I can list 20 expats i know personally (some of which doing simply field technician work) that are making 100k+

CEOs at some state companies are easilly making double and triple with bonuses.


x2.
ppl talking as if it never happen before in the public sector yes....


btw, for all those ppl talking that, if it was you getting 100k a month to do a hard wuk...u know for sure u defending ur pay til kingdom come....

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby TriniVdub » August 23rd, 2010, 12:54 am

eliteauto wrote:
SR wrote:why must the police service announce to the public that they will not support the new police commisioner................
see where the problem lies


does not make a difference what he is being paid if he has no support from his staff then obviously it would show he is not performing
makes you wonder exaclty how corrupt is the local police service and what will it really take to get it cleaned up

plenty officers have skeletons in the closet and a foreigner will not let that fly


your response is disingenuous at best, the Police Service Association never said they would not support the new COP, the statement made by Sgt Anand Ramesar stated..
the proposals as a slap in the face for members of the Police Service, who have expressed grave concern about the situation. He said the police had a three-year salary negotiation outstanding and were operating under 2007 salaries. Should the Government decide to pay Gibbs and Ewatski the "exorbitant and ridiculous" salaries, Ramesar warned there would be far-reaching consequences.
he said it appeared officers were not being valued and recognised for their work by the Government. He called on Minister of Finance Winston Dookeran to meet with the Chief Personnel Officer in an attempt to settle long overdue salary negotiations for police officers. If this is not done, the membership will withdraw its support to work alongside any commissioner.


in summation you have the backbone of the service not being adequately paid yet dealing with increasingly high crime, a non-supportive public, limited human resources etc yet the PS stalls negotiations, but you can swiftly organise a hefty (300%) increased COP salary for a foreigner. The association's head is simply stating fix us now or face a lack of enthusiasm, that has nothing to do with corruption.


so wait you want them to increase the salary of these individuals who do absolutely nothing to deserve it?? Perhaps when these mofos can actually start doing what they are paid to do then maybe they can start talking about a raise.

Oh and BTW here's the salary of a COP within canada

Police chief's 2009 salary was $303,602

Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu made more than $300,000 last year and two of his three deputy chiefs made more than $200,000, according to figures released Thursday by the Vancouver police department.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news ... 6c0067c459

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby eliteauto » August 23rd, 2010, 1:02 am

ummm get your facts straight when responding to my comments
According to information posted on the Canadian Human Resource and Skills Development website, Gibbs, a retired chief superintendent of police in Alberta, Canada, would have been paid an average monthly salary of $10 000 Canadian dollars, which today is equivalent to an average TT$60 000.


so my comment is correct, I have no interest in the COP salary in Vancouver ( one of the more affluent places in Canada)
as for the other anti-police sentiments in this and many other threads, I allude that to the upbringing of the posters and the agendas of others

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby Stephon. » August 23rd, 2010, 9:16 am

If he gets the job done, then its worth it, if not then more money wasting

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby SiR8081 » August 27th, 2010, 12:37 pm

$7,000 a month Chauffeur allowance for new CoP
By NALINEE SEELAL Tuesday, August 24 2010

THE remuneration packages offered by the previous PNM administration for 39 Scotland Yard retirees who have been working in the Special Anti-Crime Unit (SAUTT) was used as a guide by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and National Security Minister John Sandy who successfully negotiated the salaries and remuneration package of incoming Canadian-born Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs and Deputy Commissioner Jack Ewartski.

In 2006, the PNM government hired retired Deputy Chief Superintendent of Scotland Yard Dave King to the post of SAUTT Deputy Director with a salary and remuneration package at over $1 million per year.

A Government source yesterday said that it was “ridiculous” for anyone to now suggest that the package offered to Gibbs and Ewartski is out of the ordinary as taxpayers have been paying such sums to dozens of foreign officers over the past five years to work in SAUTT which is not yet even a legal entity.

CoP Gibbs and DCP Ewartski, the source said, cannot be paid by reference to local remuneration standards as there is already precedent for negotiating terms and conditions of foreign personnel contracted to work locally.

Based on the remuneration and salary packages offered to the Scotland Yard retirees to work in SAUTT, the present Government, according to sources, successfully used the following figures in negotiations with Gibbs: $25,000 monthly salary, Duty Allowance of $2,650, Transport Allowance of $3,250; Telephone Allowance $500; Inducement Allowance $20,000; Travel grant of $15,000; Entertainment Allowance of $1,200 monthly; cellphone allowance of $1,200 monthly; allowance for an official car in the sum of $10,500; $7,000 for a Chauffeur; Uniform allowance of $1,377; Pension Gratuity of 20 percent of gross salary payable on completion of three-year contract. Signing bonus of $60,000 lump sum — 50 percent upon signing contract to be CoP and 25 percent at the end of 1st and 2nd year.

With regard to Ewartski, he was offered by Government, a monthly salary of $21,700; Housing allowance of $3,850; Duty Allowance of $2,200; Transport Allowance of $3,250; Telephone allowance of $400; Inducement of $16,600; a Travel Grant of $6,550; cellphone allowance of $1,200 and a uniform grant of $1,377. A pension gratuity of 20 percent of the $50,000 lump sum — 50 percent upon signing of contract to be DCP and 25 percent at the end of first and second year. A signing bonus is payable at $37,500 in year one of the contract and $12,500 in year two.

Gibbs will assume duties on September 15, while Ewartski will be in office at the beginning of September. The two local deputy Commissioners receive a monthly salary of $24,050 while acting CoP James Philbert’s salary per month is $31,000. The new Commissioner of Police is expected to receive a yearly salary of $1.5 million while his Deputy Commissioner will receive a little more than $1 million per year
http://newsday.co.tt/news/0,126314.html


Senior British crime investigators attached to the elite Special Anti-Crime Unit of T&T (Sautt) currently earn a salary in excess of $1.4 million a year each. The salary of those officers are in excess of what T&T’s new Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs and his Canadian counterpart Jack Ewatski will earn. National Security Minister John Sandy confirmed this during yesterday’s post- Cabinet news conference held at the Office of the Prime Minister in St Clair Avenue.

Sandy said the senior executives at Sautt earned an excess of $1,440,000 a year, whereas Gibbs would be earning $1,305,850 a year. Sandy said so in response to questions about the recent criticisms regarding the salary which Gibbs would receive when he assumed position as T&T’s top cop in September. The Security Minister said senior members of Sautt who were formerly hired by the London Police Force, earned $120,000 per month, along with a $26,000 allowance for housing. These figures totalled $1,440,000 per year salary and a $312,000 per year housing allowance.

Sandy said all salaries for members of Sautt, Gibbs and Ewatski, who would be paid $1.23 million per year, were set by the Salaries Review Commission. In the cases of Gibbs and Ewatski, Sandy said the salaries were “related to those offered in the US and Canada to senior foreign executives.” When asked as to whether a local CoP would be paid the same, Sandy said the salary would be a little less. He explained that the disparity included an “expat allowance” which was normally paid to any foreign executive who had to move his family to another country.

Sandy said Gibbs and Ewatski were on a three-year contract.
But he assured members of the public: “If positive results are not forthcoming as expected, options are available for termination.” Sandy said the performances of both Gibbs and Ewatski would be assessed and reviewed by the Police Service Commission. He said both Gibbs and Ewatski were expected to assume duty next month. Sandy said he expected Gibbs and Ewatski would enhance the crime-fighting techniques of the Police Service. He said the “hard-working police officers will be exposed to new systems and technologies.”

Responding to criticisms that a local officer should have been selected for post of police commissioner, Sandy said the screening process for a foreign CoP was an initiative of the former administration, which cost the state millions of dollars. On Wednesday, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar met with senior officers and the Police Service Social and Welfare Association and assured officers that their salaries would be reviewed.

—Reporting by Alicia Llanos
http://guardian.co.tt/news/general/2010 ... ment-84642

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » August 27th, 2010, 8:53 pm

ah find all the bachannal come to an abrupt stop since it was mentioned that PNM selected (undisclosed...u know the PNM unaccountable to anyone!!) SAUTT investigators getting more money than the Farren CoP?!!!!!

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby brams112 » August 27th, 2010, 9:07 pm

ent pnm is the one who paid a big fee for some one to say our police is boo,come on all fools who posting crap,the last administration did not want someone who was seen as the other party people that is why we have so much crap in police service,,plenty old farts who got promotion by licking balls,,and those who wrote exams had to go to court to get their due,some did not even get promoted,and suatt or what ever it is called officers are being paid more then phil,anyway,,,and i aint reading beond page one

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby eliteauto » August 27th, 2010, 9:09 pm

^^that even worse.have we gotten value for money from these SAUTT officers? Having been given responsibility for gang related homicides have their been a decrease, what initiatives has the SAUTT implemented? Has the current Gov't made up it's mind on SAUTT and will it be bringing the necessary legislation?

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » August 27th, 2010, 9:12 pm

Wah bout how much money Mastrofski (sp) bleeed we of over the YEARS...and WHAT COME OF IT?!!!!

Rasta?!! doh tell meh yuh is one ah dem Swami Rasta now eh?!!

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » August 28th, 2010, 9:56 am

*crickets*

BTW Mastrofski (sp) made $18 million :wink:

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » August 30th, 2010, 6:21 pm

so it was a problem with a foreign CoP....then the salary of the foreign CoP...now the firing of the Acting CoP.


REAL COCOA IN THE SUN!!! dey arsehole mussee blinking!!!

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Re: New TOP COP to earn over $100,000 per month.

Postby UML » September 6th, 2010, 4:45 pm

UML wrote:so it was a problem with a foreign CoP....then the salary of the foreign CoP...now the firing of the Acting CoP.


REAL COCOA IN THE SUN!!! dey arsehole mussee blinking!!!



now a 40% increase!!!

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