Home Security measures and solutions

[pugboy]

order the dsc wireless ones which using the cr123 batteries, it lasts a few years unlike them other ones which use small car remote batteries

this way you just need panel and keypad with wireless receiver to talk to the sensors

[88sins]

a padna tell me a car battery and two alligator clip shorting out a electric fence

i dunno the science or explanation behind it myself

yuh padna trying to get a car battery to blow up in yuh face. that's the kinda padna you need to get rid of.

but fr
ppl don't use electric fence really because they actually really easy to defeat.
best thing, would be a VERY HIGH wall, 10 feet is good, with raptor on top, and a second fence on the inside 6 feet from the wall, with 4 inch barbed spikes concealed and anchored in the ground between them in pit traps.

As they land, they not going anywhere in a hurry

[pugboy]

they use some very flimsy vertical brackets to mount the wires
i feel anybody could use a stick and pull down the wires

[nervewrecker]

Im looking at this tongou TO-Q-SY1 din rail mounted smart switch with wifi, seeing it cab be set as a timer relay as well. Used to send power to other control devices that can control devices.

Smart Switch, Smart Wi-Fi Light Switch, Work with Alexa and Google Assistant for Voice Control, with Energy Monitoring, Smart Life/Tuya APP Remote Control, Timers Functions, DIN Rail mounted, 16A https://a.co/d/088NXhXY

Anyone ever try any like this before?

[88sins]

they use some very flimsy vertical brackets to mount the wires
i feel anybody could use a stick and pull down the wires

one good clipper, 4 cuts, and electric fence rendered useless.
screw that
One piece of metal with hooks on both ends, and power supply will short out, entire fence dead

[nervewrecker]

Most anyone can do is make it a bit more difficult for them. They had enough sense to short circuit t&tec 12000 volt high tension lines to trip the recloser here. The dip in current apparently gets rid of camera footage from on dvr.

[pugboy]

i planning to put up electric fence soon in a back wall
i putting it behind spikes to make the wires less accessible

[pugboy]

many business places have had their meters pulled out too

Most anyone can do is make it a bit more difficult for them. They had enough sense to short circuit t&tec 12000 volt high tension lines to trip the recloser here. The dip in current apparently gets rid of camera footage from on dvr.

[88sins]

Most anyone can do is make it a bit more difficult for them. They had enough sense to short circuit t&tec 12000 volt high tension lines to trip the recloser here. The dip in current apparently gets rid of camera footage from on dvr.

Not so much the dip, but yuh see the EMP?
A sufficiently powerful EMP blast will shut down even the UPS that powers your cctv system in the event of a power outage.

Best options?
Boobytrap and burglar proof yuh place, get a propwrly trained manstopper, and keep things in strategic spots inside your house/yard that can be used to defend against intruders if need be

[nervewrecker]

How you go about creating an emp now?

I'm also seeing the honeywell motion / proximity sensor priced on par with others. Reviews say they made in China.

Looking at a couple of din rail relays and timers. Some with Bluetooth and wifi. Easy for some minor automation like turning lights on automatically others can trigger an alarm with motion sensors. They are small power and variable voltage meaning a ups can support them. Will post results so if anyone interested I can do a bulk order.

[88sins]

How you go about creating an emp now?

You don't have to create one, they occur naturally. Ever noticed, when lightning flash, sometimes electricity goes out?
But if one wants to, one can create one. Just overload or short out a transformer.

[VII]

Correct !!

spikes and those contraptions have to be high up so you don’t have it easy to fiddle with them to climb over

the raptor one doesn’t look easy to bend since it rotates, would need extra help to hold it whilst trying to bend

[VII]

We know humans can overcome anything but it's not as easy as that..and it has to be installed a certain way which takes into account protecting itself and creating maximum coverage to counter free climbing, even a leaning ladder would be problems, as you still have to get over the spike overhang.. theoretically a very tall and very wide step ladder is the only thing that would defeat it as you would need to transition from one part outside the wall to the part inside the wall, would be a task to work a step ladder like that and plenty noise and scene and the support brace etc..

The whole point is to convince them that it may be too troublesome and risky with other possible unknowns and to go somewhere else and i think the Raptor does this well..

Check these people out

https://www.facebook.com/RaptorSystemsT ... tid=ZbWKwL

These are nice, but it's not for here. People like me bending that and climbing over.
They havs a tendency to throw towels over barbed wire but from what I saw they fit between the barbed wire and the fence at my aunts place next door.

[VII]

Ent any decent pliers defeating that easy ? Not to metion the $1000 dollar Klien ones..

a padna tell me a car battery and two alligator clip shorting out a electric fence

i dunno the science or explanation behind it myself

Dunno about the battery part but if all phases are bonded together and connected to a ground spike theoretically it's supposed to short out the system and create a zero potential.
Would have to alligator clip all the wires together and connect to a ground spike

[VII]

Proper advice there, nothing else need to be said .

Most anyone can do is make it a bit more difficult for them. They had enough sense to short circuit t&tec 12000 volt high tension lines to trip the recloser here. The dip in current apparently gets rid of camera footage from on dvr.

Not so much the dip, but yuh see the EMP?
A sufficiently powerful EMP blast will shut down even the UPS that powers your cctv system in the event of a power outage.

Best options?
Boobytrap and burglar proof yuh place, get a propwrly trained manstopper, and keep things in strategic spots inside your house/yard that can be used to defend against intruders if need be

[alfa]

Ent any decent pliers defeating that easy ? Not to metion the $1000 dollar Klien ones..

a padna tell me a car battery and two alligator clip shorting out a electric fence

i dunno the science or explanation behind it myself

Dunno about the battery part but if all phases are bonded together and connected to a ground spike theoretically it's supposed to short out the system and create a zero potential.
Would have to alligator clip all the wires together and connect to a ground spike

I'm not sure what voltages the system puts out but it not wise to even get close enough to clip a 1000 plus voltage system which is the max them pliers rated for. A good system is also supposed to have a grounded phase to so that you don't need to touch two wires to get zap.

[88sins]

Ent any decent pliers defeating that easy ? Not to metion the $1000 dollar Klien ones..

a padna tell me a car battery and two alligator clip shorting out a electric fence

i dunno the science or explanation behind it myself

Dunno about the battery part but if all phases are bonded together and connected to a ground spike theoretically it's supposed to short out the system and create a zero potential.
Would have to alligator clip all the wires together and connect to a ground spike

I'm not sure what voltages the system puts out but it not wise to even get close enough to clip a 1000 plus voltage system which is the max them pliers rated for. A good system is also supposed to have a grounded phase to so that you don't need to touch two wires to get zap.

Throw a simple chain over yuh nice new electric fence, and it dead like a old man piggy

[nervewrecker]

Alfa, common, you know they does wrap thing in cloth to build up resistance to work live. My pliers rated for 1kv and they went past pliers. They have power tools now. With recent advancement in battery technology it's possible to chop up most burglar proof with a good disc and a cordless grinder. Notice I said good disc, so men really have to know what they doing.
Have the oxy-acetylene kit like mine as well. That dealing with burglar proof.

Had issues with men throwing chain over high tension to trip it and have a field day.

Alarms are a good deterrent and a latching relay is a good option. It's closed with a NC aux on an alarm. So once the circuit is broken the relay is opened and cannot close back as the line is broken and the NC becomes closed so it will sound the alarm.

[pugboy]

the cheaper cutting discs does actually cut better since they thin
you just have to not flex and break it but they usually avoid noisy tools
which is why car scissor jacks are number one

i have been told the better electric fence power supplies have some form of alarm to detect faults
havent researched it though

Alfa, common, you know they does wrap thing in cloth to build up resistance to work live. My pliers rated for 1kv and they went past pliers. They have power tools now. With recent advancement in battery technology it's possible to chop up most burglar proof with a good disc and a cordless grinder. Notice I said good disc, so men really have to know what they doing.
Have the oxy-acetylene kit like mine as well. That dealing with burglar proof.

Had issues with men throwing chain over high tension to trip it and have a field day.

Alarms are a good deterrent and a latching relay is a good option. It's closed with a NC aux on an alarm. So once the circuit is broken the relay is opened and cannot close back as the line is broken and the NC becomes closed so it will sound the alarm.

[nervewrecker]

Have other types of razor disc's like the ones I use. Can run through 15 - 20 of the normal razor disc's while the other lasts about a 2 weeks.

It's possible for electric fences to have a protection circuit against faults like auto reclosers. It will open in an instant on a high current surge so they may have such will maintaining a current flow on something with a resistance accross it like a human body.

[pugboy]

those inverter welders have a circuit like that
if you stick the rod to material it cuts off to not short out the unit and starts back to work when rod unstuck and arc struck again

Have other types of razor disc's like the ones I use. Can run through 15 - 20 of the normal razor disc's while the other lasts about a 2 weeks.

It's possible for electric fences to have a protection circuit against faults like auto reclosers. It will open in an instant on a high current surge so they may have such will maintaining a current flow on something with a resistance accross it like a human body.

[solarkh]

With all the big wall, security fence
,cameras etc, wouldn’t the bandits just wait for you to open the gate and hold you up?

[j.o.e]

With all the big wall, security fence
,cameras etc, wouldn’t the bandits just wait for you to open the gate and hold you up?

Pretty much

[pugboy]

that’s the sad reality, best you can do is hope to live in area which doesn’t have street layout conducive to them parked out of your vision whilst your gate is opening

With all the big wall, security fence
,cameras etc, wouldn’t the bandits just wait for you to open the gate and hold you up?

Pretty much

[VexXx Dogg]

question. With this notice about security system components:
https://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/u ... ry-1st.pdf

Did anyone bring in their own camera/systems recently and got exempt? I recall some time ago, you were getting jammed.

I find this looks like a good option for some monitoring coverage, plus builtin siren
https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-floodlight-pro

[pugboy]

i’ve brought many wyze cams
no taxes

[MaxPower]

pug,

i know yuh believe in them wall spikes.

[pugboy]

perimeter defence first and foremost
cameras is for entertainment use only

right now i use my wyze cams to study the rodent infestation in my neighbourhood

pug,

i know yuh believe in them wall spikes.

[Chimera]

question. With this notice about security system components:
https://www.finance.gov.tt/wp-content/u ... ry-1st.pdf

Did anyone bring in their own camera/systems recently and got exempt? I recall some time ago, you were getting jammed.

I find this looks like a good option for some monitoring coverage, plus builtin siren
https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-floodlight-pro

It's all exempted

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Take a few hours, sit and ponder how you would rob your own place and you would see the amount of ideas you come up with. When you finish, you would want to sell your house