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AllTrac wrote:i wonder whats the monthly expenses (rent, utilities, food etc) to live in these big cities
buzz wrote:^ even still
AbstractPoetic wrote:AllTrac wrote:i wonder whats the monthly expenses (rent, utilities, food etc) to live in these big cities
Let's just say that even on a six-figure salary, cost of living is increasingly high especially in cities like London, NYC, D.C. and Atlanta. Also, lets not forget the concept of debt in this country. Six-figure salaries mean nothing if you have several thousands or hundreds of thousands in student debt, home loans car loans and credit cards.
Folks live off of debt in these countries. I won't be surprised if an IT Manager in the Caribbean is making considerably less but has more spending flexibility and collateral than an IT professional living in the US.
Tetramiel wrote:for the amount of effort it takes to become a professional within the IT field, I think we are barely compensated for it.
AllTrac wrote:AbstractPoetic wrote:AllTrac wrote:i wonder whats the monthly expenses (rent, utilities, food etc) to live in these big cities
Let's just say that even on a six-figure salary, cost of living is increasingly high especially in cities like London, NYC, D.C. and Atlanta. Also, lets not forget the concept of debt in this country. Six-figure salaries mean nothing if you have several thousands or hundreds of thousands in student debt, home loans car loans and credit cards.
Folks live off of debt in these countries. I won't be surprised if an IT Manager in the Caribbean is making considerably less but has more spending flexibility and collateral than an IT professional living in the US.
this is what i am trying to get at, my eyes was opened to this recently. while my salary might be considerably less, im in a stress free environment and I am some what comfortable, things could improve where I am but im happy thus far. Not everything is measured in monetary value. The IT environment in the those other countries is very stressful, extremely demanding and it takes up ALL your time. I can work here and run my business part time, still get drunk on weekends lol To each his own i guess
AllTrac wrote:AbstractPoetic wrote:AllTrac wrote:i wonder whats the monthly expenses (rent, utilities, food etc) to live in these big cities
Let's just say that even on a six-figure salary, cost of living is increasingly high especially in cities like London, NYC, D.C. and Atlanta. Also, lets not forget the concept of debt in this country. Six-figure salaries mean nothing if you have several thousands or hundreds of thousands in student debt, home loans car loans and credit cards.
Folks live off of debt in these countries. I won't be surprised if an IT Manager in the Caribbean is making considerably less but has more spending flexibility and collateral than an IT professional living in the US.
this is what i am trying to get at, my eyes was opened to this recently. while my salary might be considerably less, im in a stress free environment and I am some what comfortable, things could improve where I am but im happy thus far. Not everything is measured in monetary value. The IT environment in the those other countries is very stressful, extremely demanding and it takes up ALL your time. I can work here and run my business part time, still get drunk on weekends lol To each his own i guess
AbstractPoetic wrote:Tetramiel wrote:for the amount of effort it takes to become a professional within the IT field, I think we are barely compensated for it.
Care to explain such an effort? What are the out-of-pocket costs associated with making such an effort in the context of the Caribbean? And how many of you have PMP, ITIL, Six Sigma, etc certifications? And if you and others feel dissatisfied with your salaries, why have you not considered relocating to countries where you will be fully compensated for making such efforts?
I would be most interested in hearing from the "barely compensated" that have more than the basic certifications/qualifications and work experience.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:AbstractPoetic wrote:Tetramiel wrote:for the amount of effort it takes to become a professional within the IT field, I think we are barely compensated for it.
Care to explain such an effort? What are the out-of-pocket costs associated with making such an effort in the context of the Caribbean? And how many of you have PMP, ITIL, Six Sigma, etc certifications? And if you and others feel dissatisfied with your salaries, why have you not considered relocating to countries where you will be fully compensated for making such efforts?
I would be most interested in hearing from the "barely compensated" that have more than the basic certifications/qualifications and work experience.
IT i s IT accross the board....someone with lets say MCSE qualifications may get a ceiling of say 20KTT before txes as opposed to other territories (like J'ca for example) where you can have the same qualifications and work for nearly double that.
In fact, like the Indian IT Superpowers, the Caribbean area hold alot of world respected IT professionals that cannot even dream to get paid their worth here.
IT professionals here hower ever dont know how to leverage what skills they possess for better pay rates IMHO.
2 d Max Auto wrote:BANzai: thanks for the info eh...................I think
In fact, like the Indian IT Superpowers, the Caribbean area hold alot of world respected IT professionals that cannot even dream to get paid their worth here.
.........just ask W2J
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:IT i s IT accross the board....someone with lets say MCSE qualifications may get a ceiling of say 20KTT before txes as opposed to other territories (like J'ca for example) where you can have the same qualifications and work for nearly double that.
AbstractPoetic wrote:buzz wrote:^ even still
Be it IT professional, lawyer, doctor, engineer or teacher, folks that live overseas in the same profession are going to have a different, and in some cases higher price tag to their name/profession than a professional holding the same title/responsibility.
But does that necessarily mean they are making more or taking home more? Not necessarily. It's not always just about the figure.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:IT professionals here hower ever dont know how to leverage what skills they possess for better pay rates IMHO.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:In fact, like the Indian IT Superpowers, the Caribbean area hold alot of world respected IT professionals that cannot even dream to get paid their worth here.
AbstractPoetic wrote:World respected IT professionals? Care to name a few? I haven't heard of any.
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