Public Assistance Grant

[coltspeed]

So ppl i've been in the process of applying, there's a form circulating from The Ministry of Labour and Small Enterprise Development in collaboration with the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services,
Forms A for Employed and Form B for self employed. Which was released on the 26th March, then after a news briefing with Minister Bilbo Baggings (Impsburg) yesterday saying a new form will be released to the public on NIB website on or after Wednesday this week. which requires bank statements or letters from banks confirming account information. They closed most branches FCB that i got to know this morning, not sure for other Bank branches. also don't have online access atm. How or when do they expect people to apply for this? Then too some conflicting information on the forms and notices that are being shared by the government. Is that they playing for time for CCP virus to pass and then issue payments closer to election timing. Holding the public to ransom like a game of political cuckh01d!!!

[rspann]

Good topic. You should post the one for rental assistance and utilities grant too. Much needed in these times.

[NR8]

Good topic. You should post the one for rental assistance and utilities grant too. Much needed in these times.

Didn't even know this was a thing.

[elec2020]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

[coltspeed]

So got a hold of the new form for retrenched employees these are just images of it.
Also seeing this utilities grant going around, don't have any info on this one.
Like i was saying before, look at the requirements, how are people to get this information if banks are closed, this will only create more chaos when they reopen. It will be 2019 December all again.

[adnj]

... The Ministry of Labour and Small Enterprise Development in collaboration with the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services,
Forms A for Employed and Form B for self employed. Which was released on the 26th March, ... which requires bank statements or letters from banks confirming account information. They closed most branches FCB that i got to know this morning, not sure for other Bank branches. also don't have online access atm. How or when do they expect people to apply for this?

Banks are not closed. It's on the list of essential services.

(v) financial and insurance services such as-

(i) banking business and business of a financial nature, as defined in the Financial Institutions Act and non-banks and the Unit Trust Corporation;

(ii) non-banks and remittance facilities;

(iii) credit unions under the Cooperative Societies Act;

(iv) the processing and maintenance of systems for processing insurance and financial transactions and services (e.g., information technology, payment, clearing, and settlement, wholesale funding, insurance services, capital markets activities);

(v) the provision of consumer access to banking and lending services, including ATMs, and the moving of currency and payments (e.g., armored cash carriers); and

(vi) the provision of support for financial operations, such as services in relation to staffing data, technology and security operations centres;

[daxt0r]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

[adnj]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

To receive Rental Assistance, the tenant must provide:

For rental assistance, applicants are required to submit rental agreement,
evidence of payment and a copy of the landlord’s ID Card (payment will be
made to the Landlord).

It may be somewhat difficult to swear or affirm that a person receives no rental income when the GOTT has your ID card number and a cancelled check.

[coltspeed]

... The Ministry of Labour and Small Enterprise Development in collaboration with the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services,
Forms A for Employed and Form B for self employed. Which was released on the 26th March, ... which requires bank statements or letters from banks confirming account information. They closed most branches FCB that i got to know this morning, not sure for other Bank branches. also don't have online access atm. How or when do they expect people to apply for this?

Banks are not closed. It's on the list of essential services.

(v) financial and insurance services such as-

(i) banking business and business of a financial nature, as defined in the Financial Institutions Act and non-banks and the Unit Trust Corporation;

(ii) non-banks and remittance facilities;

(iii) credit unions under the Cooperative Societies Act;

(iv) the processing and maintenance of systems for processing insurance and financial transactions and services (e.g., information technology, payment, clearing, and settlement, wholesale funding, insurance services, capital markets activities);

(v) the provision of consumer access to banking and lending services, including ATMs, and the moving of currency and payments (e.g., armored cash carriers); and

(vi) the provision of support for financial operations, such as services in relation to staffing data, technology and security operations centres;

I physically went to my home branch to be told by security that they would be closed whole week, there was an announcement over media also of this where certain branches that would only be open, as i said this was for FCB not sure for different banks. This was in south.

[coltspeed]

You can visit this link to get the forms from MOLSED
Employee form
https://www.molsed.gov.tt/images/COVID- ... h_2020.pdf

Self Employed form
https://www.molsed.gov.tt/images/COVID- ... h_2020.pdf

Salary Grant form NIB
https://www.nibtt.net/News_09/2020/Sala ... 0Final.pdf

Application for Utilities Assistance Programme Form
http://www.mpu.gov.tt/pdf/UAP%20Form%20web.pdf

[adnj]

... The Ministry of Labour and Small Enterprise Development in collaboration with the Ministry of Social Development and Family Services,
Forms A for Employed and Form B for self employed. Which was released on the 26th March, ... which requires bank statements or letters from banks confirming account information. They closed most branches FCB that i got to know this morning, not sure for other Bank branches. also don't have online access atm. How or when do they expect people to apply for this?

Banks are not closed. It's on the list of essential services.

(v) financial and insurance services such as-

(i) banking business and business of a financial nature, as defined in the Financial Institutions Act and non-banks and the Unit Trust Corporation;

(ii) non-banks and remittance facilities;

(iii) credit unions under the Cooperative Societies Act;

(iv) the processing and maintenance of systems for processing insurance and financial transactions and services (e.g., information technology, payment, clearing, and settlement, wholesale funding, insurance services, capital markets activities);

(v) the provision of consumer access to banking and lending services, including ATMs, and the moving of currency and payments (e.g., armored cash carriers); and

(vi) the provision of support for financial operations, such as services in relation to staffing data, technology and security operations centres;

I physically went to my home branch to be told by security that they would be closed whole week, there was an announcement over media also of this where certain branches that would only be open, as i said this was for FCB not sure for different banks. This was in south.

Apparently, some branches are open for business.

[zoom rader]

I advise all Citizens to apply for this doh mind 1% has already been given our HSF

[akintl0]

Anyone know anything about the new forms on NIB site
https://www.nibtt.net/News_09/2020/Sal- ... ation.html

[elec2020]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

I wanted to say something in the landlord thread but I see how they bashing RedVevo so I say let me not say nothing. If that is the case that these landlords not paying tax and jumbying tenants to apply for the rental grant they very hypocritical. Amyway that is tnt in a nutshell, the poor and middle income always catching their tail... while the one percent or high income do what they want

[elec2020]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

To receive Rental Assistance, the tenant must provide:

For rental assistance, applicants are required to submit rental agreement,
evidence of payment and a copy of the landlord’s ID Card (payment will be
made to the Landlord).

It may be somewhat difficult to swear or affirm that a person receives no rental income when the GOTT has your ID card number and a cancelled check.

You expecting government workers to be that smart... to use this platform as a means to catch errant tax payers... doubt that would happen...

[zoom rader]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

I wanted to say something in the landlord thread but I see how they bashing RedVevo so I say let me not say nothing. If that is the case that these landlords not paying tax and jumbying tenants to apply for the rental grant they very hypocritical. Amyway that is tnt in a nutshell, the poor and middle income always catching their tail... while the one percent or high income do what they want

Many folk that I know are landlords and they also work in full time and part time employment and PAY taxes.

If they loose their jobs while still being a landlord , then it is their RIGHT to apply for the grant. They paid taxes and are therefore entitled to access their money.

I support every tax payer out of work to apply for the grant. It is not PNM money and its time that tax payers get returns.

[rspann]

elec2020 , Allyuh office open ? I need a favour done in your workplace . Would you assist ?

[elec2020]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

I wanted to say something in the landlord thread but I see how they bashing RedVevo so I say let me not say nothing. If that is the case that these landlords not paying tax and jumbying tenants to apply for the rental grant they very hypocritical. Amyway that is tnt in a nutshell, the poor and middle income always catching their tail... while the one percent or high income do what they want

Many folk that I know are landlords and they also work in full time and part time employment and PAY taxes.

If they loose their jobs while still being a landlord , then it is their RIGHT to apply for the grant. They paid taxes and are therefore entitled to access their money.

I support every tax payer out of work to apply for the grant. It is not PNM money and its time that tax payers get returns.

Do they also pay taxes on the income received from rent? If not then how can they play holier than though as they are abusing the system just like current and past governments.

[elec2020]

elec2020 , Allyuh office open ? I need a favour done in your workplace . Would you assist ?

Um i not sure where u going with this... just like many people I am on unpaid leave atm due to the extension of SIQ

[rspann]

elec2020 , Allyuh office open ? I need a favour done in your workplace . Would you assist ?

Um i not sure where u going with this... just like many people I am on unpaid leave atm due to the extension of SIQ

BIR closed ? They said it was remaining open.

[elec2020]

^ i working BIR?

[rspann]

^ i working BIR?

I thought so because you know who paying taxes . Maybe I misunderstood . My apologies.

[elec2020]

^ Noted. I do not have any information as with regards to who are tax and non-tax compliant all i can go on is facts/events...individuals whose only source of income come from employers are generally tax compliant (u cant hide from PAYE)... you generally find that businesses/self employed individuals are usually the ones who avoid paying taxes (by not filing, i think, their TD-1 Tax returns or avoiding paying NIS)... it is clear that tnt has a tax compliance issue... past and present governments always bring it up... but it was best demonstrated through the demonitaztion process... the hords of people that were visiting banks before december 31st showed that alot of money in tnt is beinged siphoned away from the tax authorities... further, the lack of tax compliance was reinforced by the events after december 31st where masses of people for whatever reason missed the deadline and had to go to the central bank to get their funds changed... even on the last day... in a pandemic... newspaper articles showed masses of people rushing to change money at the central bank.... as i said... based on the facts stated here... we generally have a non tax compliant population... most employees cannot avoid the tax man... the individuals who can are those with businesses or those who are self employed

[rspann]

I get where you coming from. It is a problem and yes they are the ones who juggle their records . it's almost the same as making claims and claiming non existent or fabricated expenses. All the money during the exchange period doesn't have to be necessarily hoarded because of illegal reasons People aren't too happy about banks and their processes ,and it is becoming more and more difficult to do business with banks even if you are legit . As a matter of fact the banks only flagged a small percentage as suspicious .

The illegal ones would have had no problem exchanging and would probably have been tipped off long before . The FIU gets reports from banks as to suspicious transactions but most landlords deposit rent cheques and cash into their accounts . While you may be correct about some , not all self employed run their business like that. when the revenue authority comes on stream , a lot of those actions are going to be eliminated.

Then there is the parallel economy , the one nobody has ever gotten a handle on . It will still be business as usual for them no matter what laws come into effect . One thing I will tell you though . Anything RedV says ,take it with a pinch of salt . He has an agenda and it's putting him deeper and deeper in a hole.

[zoom rader]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

I wanted to say something in the landlord thread but I see how they bashing RedVevo so I say let me not say nothing. If that is the case that these landlords not paying tax and jumbying tenants to apply for the rental grant they very hypocritical. Amyway that is tnt in a nutshell, the poor and middle income always catching their tail... while the one percent or high income do what they want

Many folk that I know are landlords and they also work in full time and part time employment and PAY taxes.

If they loose their jobs while still being a landlord , then it is their RIGHT to apply for the grant. They paid taxes and are therefore entitled to access their money.

I support every tax payer out of work to apply for the grant. It is not PNM money and its time that tax payers get returns.

Do they also pay taxes on the income received from rent? If not then how can they play holier than though as they are abusing the system just like current and past governments.

There are no laws as far as I know for income on rents same as private barbers, plumbers, electricians ect.

Is arse wari paying?

Or lenny Saith paying?

[elec2020]

I get where you coming from. It is a problem and yes they are the ones who juggle their records . it's almost the same as making claims and claiming non existent or fabricated expenses. All the money during the exchange period doesn't have to be necessarily hoarded because of illegal reasons People aren't too happy about banks and their processes ,and it is becoming more and more difficult to do business with banks even if you are legit . As a matter of fact the banks only flagged a small percentage as suspicious .

The illegal ones would have had no problem exchanging and would probably have been tipped off long before . The FIU gets reports from banks as to suspicious transactions but most landlords deposit rent cheques and cash into their accounts . While you may be correct about some , not all self employed run their business like that. when the revenue authority comes on stream , a lot of those actions are going to be eliminated.

Then there is the parallel economy , the one nobody has ever gotten a handle on . It will still be business as usual for them no matter what laws come into effect . One thing I will tell you though . Anything RedV says ,take it with a pinch of salt . He has an agenda and it's putting him deeper and deeper in a hole.

What a nice and lucid comment... as you indicate here there are two sides to every story... that i can full well agree with... going forward tnt needs to take a serious stock evaluation of what needs to be done... cause we in a bit of trouble for the forseeable future... imagine just now a barrel of oil could cost as much as a bucket of kfc... lol... anyway one of the things we will need is a revenue authority... but as is often the case... while intentions are well... individuals often spoil things... example banks... alot of people dont trust banks because of bad experiences which by and large are down to the people working there... example if i withdraw from the atm and nothing comes out the bank will take 10 working days to process my claim... why so long? Or even if my account got phished or hacked is a battle to get back my money but why aint all accounts have deposit insurance? Is often the people that ruin things... but that has to change as we will need all hands on deck to come back from this impending recession

[rspann]

Meanwhile the barons depositing money with no questions asked..

[elec2020]

Alot of individuals will disagree with me... but i don't like this concept of rental assistance... while their will be exceptions... i find it hypocritical that tax payers money is being used to pay landlords who dont pay taxes in the first place because according to them... government does nothing for them

i fully agree, but in here full a big boy landlords and businessmen so they eh like nothing better than to collect money despite not declaring a cent on their income all the while complaining PNM/UNC doing crap.

i wouldn't be surprised if some of these same big boys apply and get grants as they have friends in high places all the while the poor people who it meant to assist the grant never arrives. There is no social programme in this place that wasn't created to benefit a big boy, small people getting a lil trickle down is just a side effect. Down to a CEPEP/URP checker have to eat ah food for yuh to get ah lil ting and it goes straight up to d top like da.

I wanted to say something in the landlord thread but I see how they bashing RedVevo so I say let me not say nothing. If that is the case that these landlords not paying tax and jumbying tenants to apply for the rental grant they very hypocritical. Amyway that is tnt in a nutshell, the poor and middle income always catching their tail... while the one percent or high income do what they want

Many folk that I know are landlords and they also work in full time and part time employment and PAY taxes.

If they loose their jobs while still being a landlord , then it is their RIGHT to apply for the grant. They paid taxes and are therefore entitled to access their money.

I support every tax payer out of work to apply for the grant. It is not PNM money and its time that tax payers get returns.

Do they also pay taxes on the income received from rent? If not then how can they play holier than though as they are abusing the system just like current and past governments.

There are no laws as far as I know for income on rents same as private barbers, plumbers, electricians ect.

Is arse wari paying?

Or lenny Saith paying?

Ha! Um as far as i know (and I could be wrong) all income earned must be stated when filing your tax returns... in the TD-4 submission online at the end of it i think they state that any ommissions or untruths is a felony subject to fines/improsenment... so it is a big deal... it easy not to pay taxes... cause i mean what government have to show for all the taxes i putting in for so much years? Low crime? Efficient town and roadway structures? Low pollution? Lol... nothing... but in the same context... i find it hypocritical to now go clamoring to the government for benefits when all the time before u were shoet changing them... i am not saying every land lord/business man or woman doesnt pay taxes... i just stating my view on the whole debacle... either way we scr4wd... cause eventually kickbacks gah start to take place... i think the security contracts were 91k or something so per patrol.... PER PATROL.... madness

[rspann]

Per patrol ? I'll be right back , going to register a security company for when they tack back . You know it not cancelled it only postponed ?

[Chimera]

Partner with me. I have one registered and in good standing 8 years now. I provide the name. You provide the vehicles, staff, guns.
We split it 50/50

Per patrol ? I'll be right back , going to register a security company for when they tack back . You know it not cancelled it only postponed ?