COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates) (Poll added)

[VexXx Dogg]

Update from Pfizer
"Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine over 90% effective"

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN27P1CT
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... l#biontech

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

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The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows.

The developers - Pfizer and BioNTech - described it as a "great day for science and humanity".

Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised.

The companies plan to apply for emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month.

There are still huge challenges ahead, but the announcement has been warmly welcomed with scientists describing themselves smiling "ear to ear" and some suggesting life could be back to normal by spring.

"I am probably the first guy to say that, but I will say that with some confidence," said Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University.

A vaccine - alongside better treatments - is seen as the best way of getting out of the restrictions that have been imposed on all our lives.

There are around a dozen in the final stages of testing - known as a phase 3 trial - but this is the first to show any results.

It uses a completely experimental approach - that involves injecting part of the virus's genetic code - in order to train the immune system.

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Doctor discusses Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine

[Dohplaydat]

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The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows.

The developers - Pfizer and BioNTech - described it as a "great day for science and humanity".

Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised.

The companies plan to apply for emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month.

There are still huge challenges ahead, but the announcement has been warmly welcomed with scientists describing themselves smiling "ear to ear" and some suggesting life could be back to normal by spring.

"I am probably the first guy to say that, but I will say that with some confidence," said Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University.

A vaccine - alongside better treatments - is seen as the best way of getting out of the restrictions that have been imposed on all our lives.

There are around a dozen in the final stages of testing - known as a phase 3 trial - but this is the first to show any results.

It uses a completely experimental approach - that involves injecting part of the virus's genetic code - in order to train the immune system.

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awesome!! This cannot come soon enough

[SPK1983]

I have one concern about a vaccine at this time - how broad is the spectrum of this vaccine? Because this is still during the time frame whereby this virus can mutate, and if it mutates out of the coverage the vaccine provides, then it would be useless after a time frame.

If this virus is mutating at the point where a new vaccine would have to be derived every year, then it will be basically a flu shot schedule. If it's mutating within weeks/months, then it will be a much harder virus to protect against.

[redmanjp]

^ my thinking is even if it mutates, if you got the first vaccine, u should retain some level of immunity, perhaps T cell immunity- u can still get infected with the new strain but your immune system has an idea of how to fight it and therefore the risk of death or severe complications goes down- well at least i hope so

i've heard the 1918 flu is still with us but we have some immunity against it

[elec2020]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14493277

Is this the ssme Pfizer?

[Blaze d Chalice]

^^
That is nothing new with drug companies.
Ever heard of Bayer Pharmaceutical?

I feel I will skip this vaccine, or, if they make it 99% effective, I might take it and not tell anyone.
Then I will use that as an excuse to continue not physically meeting up with Trinis.

"Yeah boi dawg boi me ear geh no vack scene, I go dead if people who ear have the vack scene cough on me"

[elec2020]

There is also thalidomide. I am quite worried about the long-term ramifications of this vaccine. And given the choice I will not take it. But in some countries like Canada and New Zealand they have made it appear that the vaccine will be mandatory. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that in TnT

[Devourment]

There is also thalidomide. I am quite worried about the long-term ramifications of this vaccine. And given the choice I will not take it. But in some countries like Canada and New Zealand they have made it appear that the vaccine will be mandatory. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that in TnT

Once proven safe, I don't see a reason not to take it. Conspiracy theorist idiots like yourself don't understand the stringent testing measures and research required to make vaccines. Would it be 100% safe, quite possibly yes, but even if it's 99.99% safe then for the greater good we all need to take this.

As an someone who has studied infectious diseases, you want to stop this in its tracks and stop the potential for it mutating into something vaccine resistant (so far the type of strain mutations occuring won't affect the efficacy of the vaccine, but that's now).

If people continue to spread misinformation about vaccines and adopt a mindset where fear of the vaccine is grater than fear of Covid-19, then there'll always be a Covid-19 risk and an even greater risk of a real killer Covid-19.

Not saying these current strains aren't deadly, they are but only to those we label high risk. But imagine something half as bad MERs but just as infectious as Covid-19. You'll be looking at almost apocalyptic scenarios.

And lastly, why remain at risk for Covid and spreading it around? You might not get it bad, but what if your parents, grandparents, older co-workers get it and die? How can people be so selfish and disregarding the health and lives of others.

I think vaccine education needs to be mandatory or if not, make the vaccine mandatory.

[Blaze d Chalice]

Countries might make it mandatory for if you entering their country.

But I don't see how they will track you down (in Trinidad) unless instead of stopping people for mask, drivers permit, insurance, they asking for immunization card.

[redmanjp]

Countries might make it mandatory for if you entering their country.

But I don't see how they will track you down (in Trinidad) unless instead of stopping people for mask, drivers permit, insurance, they asking for immunization card.

should only be mandatory if travelling internationally or for things like school enrollment- but for simply going to the grocery u should have a choice: wear a mask or have your immunization card or some sticker. of course dining in where masks can't be worn i suppose u would need to have it

[elec2020]

There is also thalidomide. I am quite worried about the long-term ramifications of this vaccine. And given the choice I will not take it. But in some countries like Canada and New Zealand they have made it appear that the vaccine will be mandatory. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that in TnT

Once proven safe, I don't see a reason not to take it. Conspiracy theorist idiots like yourself don't understand the stringent testing measures and research required to make vaccines. Would it be 100% safe, quite possibly yes, but even if it's 99.99% safe then for the greater good we all need to take this.

As an someone who has studied infectious diseases, you want to stop this in its tracks and stop the potential for it mutating into something vaccine resistant (so far the type of strain mutations occuring won't affect the efficacy of the vaccine, but that's now).

If people continue to spread misinformation about vaccines and adopt a mindset where fear of the vaccine is grater than fear of Covid-19, then there'll always be a Covid-19 risk and an even greater risk of a real killer Covid-19.

Not saying these current strains aren't deadly, they are but only to those we label high risk. But imagine something half as bad MERs but just as infectious as Covid-19. You'll be looking at almost apocalyptic scenarios.

And lastly, why remain at risk for Covid and spreading it around? You might not get it bad, but what if your parents, grandparents, older co-workers get it and die? How can people be so selfish and disregarding the health and lives of others.

I think vaccine education needs to be mandatory or if not, make the vaccine mandatory.

Ok sheep.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/conce ... story.html

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biol ... -biologics

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... 5B1%2C2%5D. (Major Birth Defects from Vaccines between 1990 and 2014)

These vaccines had years almost decades of research in them and still had adverse results. And a vaccine done in under a year supposed to be the exception (that is have no defects and only does as it is intended).... seems legit

[hover11]

Great news that a vaccine will be here soon BUT so many questions remain. Pfizer hasn't said if this prevents infection or just severe symptoms. Can persons still spread Covid after being vaccinated? How long will this vaccine last?. What demographics were in that trial? Will this vaccine be effective in the wider population of billions of people? The long term side effects given this is a new form of vaccine development on humans.

[elec2020]

^ 43,500 people from six countries. See full article below

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gover.html

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Moderna now has a Covid vaccine they claim is 95% effective

A new vaccine that protects against Covid-19 is nearly 95% effective, early data from US company Moderna shows.

The results come hot on the heels of similar results from Pfizer, and add to growing confidence that vaccines can help end the pandemic.

Both companies used a highly innovative and experimental approach to designing their vaccines.

Moderna says it is a "great day" and they plan to apply for approval to use the vaccine in the next few weeks.

However, this is still early data and key questions remain unanswered.



https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54902908

[redmanjp]

^ was now going to post that. d next 1 go say their own 99% effective. so both ready to apply for approval?

also pfizer's vaccine is supposed to get EUA approval to start vaccination next month. so when would T&T be able to get it?

[Dohplaydat]

This is great news! These vaccines have already been mass-produced and stock piled so once final approval is granted this covid nightmare can be over early next year (hopefully).

[Hwells]

^ was now going to post that. d next 1 go say their own 99% effective. so both ready to apply for approval?

also pfizer's vaccine is supposed to get EUA approval to start vaccination next month. so when would T&T be able to get it?

check a 10 months down the line, when prices drop. man like impsbert go say look how much money we end up saving by waiting to buy it.

[hover11]

So you rushing to take a vaccine that was only months in development hmmm ok go strong bro.....you know what I find so funny, HIV , cancer , diabetes, etc all these viruses and diseases that have been with us for however long where are the vaccines for those

This is great news! These vaccines have already been mass-produced and stock piled so once final approval is granted this covid nightmare can be over early next year (hopefully).

[elec2020]

"The trial involved 30,000 people in the US with half being given two doses of the vaccine, four weeks apart. The rest had dummy injections. The analysis was based on the first 95 to develop Covid-19 symptoms. Only five of the Covid cases were in people given the vaccine, 90 were in those given the dummy treatment. The company says the vaccine is protecting 94.5% of people. The data also shows there were 11 cases of severe Covid in the trial, but none happened in people who were immunised."

So, and please correct me if i am wrong, but basically out of the 30,000, only 5 people who got COVID had the vaccine and 94.5 per cent of that 5 were immune? is that the jist of this story by BBC? Also, something to note,

"No significant safety concerns have been reported, but nothing, including paracetamol, is 100% safe."

Nice disclaimer there by the company.

[elec2020]

So you rushing to take a vaccine that was only months in development hmmm ok go strong bro.....you know what I find so funny, HIV , cancer , diabetes, etc all these viruses and diseases that have been with us for however long where are the vaccines for those

This is great news! These vaccines have already been mass-produced and stock piled so once final approval is granted this covid nightmare can be over early next year (hopefully).

I not taking none of these rushed vaccines unless I HAVE TO. In that the government forces TnT nationals to take it or my workplace forces employees to take it.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

So you rushing to take a vaccine that was only months in development hmmm ok go strong bro.....you know what I find so funny, HIV , cancer , diabetes, etc all these viruses and diseases that have been with us for however long where are the vaccines for those

The reason why there is a lockdown and rush to get a vaccine for Covid is because it is far far more contagious than HIV and spreads faster to more people than cancer or diabetes in the same time frame.
Covid is the disease you get from the SARS CoV 2 virus which scientists already had research on treatments for the original SARS and other respiratory syndromes.
A highly contagious virus that spread to 55 million people in 191 counties in less than a year. And those numbers are only so low because of the global lockdown.
Plus Covid caused a major drop in the global economy, massive industries like airlines, cruises, movies, entertainment etc etc tanked. That is incentive for pharmaceutical companies to race to getting a cure.

[Dohplaydat]

So you rushing to take a vaccine that was only months in development hmmm ok go strong bro.....you know what I find so funny, HIV , cancer , diabetes, etc all these viruses and diseases that have been with us for however long where are the vaccines for those

The reason why there is a lockdown and rush to get a vaccine for Covid is because it is far far more contagious than HIV and spreads faster to more people than cancer or diabetes in the same time frame.
Covid is the disease you get from the SARS CoV 2 virus which scientists already had research on treatments for the original SARS and other respiratory syndromes.
A highly contagious virus that spread to 55 million people in 191 counties in less than a year. And those numbers are only so low because of the global lockdown.
Plus Covid caused a major drop in the global economy, massive industries like airlines, cruises, movies, entertainment etc etc tanked. That is incentive for pharmaceutical companies to race to getting a cure.

Adding to this, many of the current covid-19 vaccines are based on previous SARS vaccine research as well as other vaccines being currently used. These vaccines have been used safely and successfully for decades.

Another thing, Covid-19 is based on the coronavirus which science is VERY familiar with.

You all need to understand how science and research works, as well as funding. Money poured into these pharmaceutical companies and researchers to develop this.

I'm not surprised at all that this got done so far.

The only real legit concern you can have is long-term side effects, however, again these types of vaccines have been used for decades. There isn't going to be anything that can be life-threatening or changing. Dangerous issues like that would have shown up already.

Lastly, it's being seen that covid-19 has many long-term effects and can be far more damaging than we initially thought. Would you rather get covid-19 and face that? Or for once, do the right thing, trust scientists, and do our part to eradicate this virus.

I understand your fear, but once these things pass approval, then it's socially irresponsible to not be vaccinated against covid-19.

[redmanjp]

we have to look at the first few millions ppl who get vaccinated to see if anything happens to them- especially if FDA approval was granted under pressure from the trump administration to look good- granted they did fund some of the companies in order to fast track manufacturing.

i think the New York governor has said even after FDA approval he will have independent scientists look at the safely data first before deploying the vaccine in new york

[timothymcdavid]

Pfizer and Moderna have used new approaches to tackling the development of this vaccine that alone is concerning as it is.

But until these results and claims are verified by third parties I will try to contain my excitement.

These are two reputable companies and personally I dont really trust the other companies developing vaccines. Particularly Sputnik 5 (Russia) and Sinovac (Chinese company) - They messed up some Brazilian's with "a mild adverse event".

I am hoping either Pfizer or Moderna efforts are used in the UK challenge trials which they are planning then we can see true effectiveness and not a sales pitch from these companies.

Hopefully things go well and no one gets to screwed up by either of these products and I will get mine before the middle of next year.

[Dohplaydat]

Pfizer and Moderna have used new approaches to tackling the development of this vaccine that alone is concerning as it is.

But until these results and claims are verified by third parties I will try to contain my excitement.

These are two reputable companies and personally I dont really trust the other companies developing vaccines. Particularly Sputnik 5 (Russia) and Sinovac (Chinese company) - They messed up some Brazilian's with "a mild adverse event".

I am hoping either Pfizer or Moderna efforts are used in the UK challenge trials which they are planning then we can see true effectiveness and not a sales pitch from these companies.

Hopefully things go well and no one gets to screwed up by either of these products and I will get mine before the middle of next year.

They have been confirmed and peer reviewed, FDA and other local health authorities now need to do the final approvals after these phase 3 test are fully completed.

[elec2020]

Eleanor Riley, professor of immunology and infectious disease at the University of Edinburgh, warned that vaccine groups may be racing for the finish line at the expense of public health. Speaking about the Russian results, she said: "Whilst encouraging, I worry that these data have been rushed out on the back of the Pfizer/BioNtech announcement earlier in the week. "This is not a competition. We need all trials to be carried out to the highest possible standards, and it is particularly important that the pre-set criteria for unblinding the trial data are adhered to avoid cherry-picking the data. Anything less than this risks a public loss of trust in all vaccines, which would be a disaster." Interim analyses of vaccine trials are often carried out in case the jabs prove to be dangerous or ineffective. But one former director at pharmaceutical giant GSK told The Telegraph he was "utterly appalled" that Pfizer had released the clinical trial data before peer-review. "Really it's just a cynical and egregious marketing ploy by Pfizer to get early orders, with money up front, because they know that mass vaccination with a vaccine that needs storage at -80 degrees is completely unworkable," he said. "It's just a dreadful example of big pharma trying to get its share price up and profits into its organisation before the Pfizer vaccine is declared totally impractical for widespread use in society. "As soon as other vaccines are available, then this Pfizer vaccine will not be widely used. Hence their announcement to get in early." Many experts now believe the Pfizer vaccine will never be suitable for mass immunisation because of the cost and cold-chain storage required. Even delivery companies that specialise in that area have been left scratching their heads about how to make it work. Philip Ashton, the CEO and co-founder of AI logistics company 7bridges, said: "Moving and storing dry ice shipments is much more complex, and requires more expertise and infrastructure, than the two to eight degrees Celsius cold chain. "Far fewer sites that may be able to administer a vaccine will currently have storage facilities for dry ice or easy access to supplies of dry ice if they have to store the vaccine for any length of time. There are ways around this, such as just-in-time fulfilment of the vaccine, but this creates different challenges, principally that any disruptions to transport schedules can leave distribution sites without vaccine stock. "Because of the additional complexity associated with the dry ice dependent vaccines, all other things being equal, a vaccine that can be kept at two to eight degrees Celsius will be much simpler to distribute and store and therefore administer to a population."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... not-bring/

Be careful who you believe in this race to produce a vaccine with no side effects and full immunity

[elec2020]

^ so contrary to what Dohplaydat said the Pfizer vaccine has not been peer reviewed as yet (the article I placed was done 6 days ago). Anyway you choose to believe what u want. Me'en takin no vaccine. NONE!

[VexXx Dogg]

Eleanor Riley, professor of immunology and infectious disease at the University of Edinburgh, warned that vaccine groups may be racing for the finish line at the expense of public health. Speaking about the Russian results, she said: "Whilst encouraging, I worry that these data have been rushed out on the back of the Pfizer/BioNtech announcement earlier in the week. "This is not a competition. We need all trials to be carried out to the highest possible standards, and it is particularly important that the pre-set criteria for unblinding the trial data are adhered to avoid cherry-picking the data. Anything less than this risks a public loss of trust in all vaccines, which would be a disaster." Interim analyses of vaccine trials are often carried out in case the jabs prove to be dangerous or ineffective. But one former director at pharmaceutical giant GSK told The Telegraph he was "utterly appalled" that Pfizer had released the clinical trial data before peer-review. "Really it's just a cynical and egregious marketing ploy by Pfizer to get early orders, with money up front, because they know that mass vaccination with a vaccine that needs storage at -80 degrees is completely unworkable," he said. "It's just a dreadful example of big pharma trying to get its share price up and profits into its organisation before the Pfizer vaccine is declared totally impractical for widespread use in society. "As soon as other vaccines are available, then this Pfizer vaccine will not be widely used. Hence their announcement to get in early." Many experts now believe the Pfizer vaccine will never be suitable for mass immunisation because of the cost and cold-chain storage required. Even delivery companies that specialise in that area have been left scratching their heads about how to make it work. Philip Ashton, the CEO and co-founder of AI logistics company 7bridges, said: "Moving and storing dry ice shipments is much more complex, and requires more expertise and infrastructure, than the two to eight degrees Celsius cold chain. "Far fewer sites that may be able to administer a vaccine will currently have storage facilities for dry ice or easy access to supplies of dry ice if they have to store the vaccine for any length of time. There are ways around this, such as just-in-time fulfilment of the vaccine, but this creates different challenges, principally that any disruptions to transport schedules can leave distribution sites without vaccine stock. "Because of the additional complexity associated with the dry ice dependent vaccines, all other things being equal, a vaccine that can be kept at two to eight degrees Celsius will be much simpler to distribute and store and therefore administer to a population."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/1 ... not-bring/

Be careful who you believe in this race to produce a vaccine with no side effects and full immunity

That's almost impossible, even with modern and mature vaccines. They all have potential side effects and varying success rates. For the mandatory vaccines, these factors would have been considered when assessing the risk to general population. For the opt-in ones, that is a discussion between you and your doctor.