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Postby sinister_14 » August 9th, 2020, 4:00 pm

Ipsl/proman to retrench staff soon, due to the shutdown of m1-m3 and the second mel plant to be closed, is this true??

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Postby eitech » August 9th, 2020, 4:25 pm

sinister_14 wrote:Ipsl/proman to retrench staff soon, due to the shutdown of m1-m3 and the second mel plant to be closed, is this true??


Wa who you heard that from?

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Postby DreamWeaver » August 9th, 2020, 8:25 pm

Actually m1 was mothballed years ago. They already retrenched for that. The 2nd mel plant to be closed is news to me though. Covid probably affecting sales. i think m2 and m3 down because ah covid killing prices and demand. rumor is that they staying down for the rest of the year to evaluate. them was on month to month contract with ngc though. not sure what renewal plans in place if they decide to start back. similarly titan wasnt getting through with a long term contract (and covid was causing trouble with prices and demands) so them shut down indefinitely. lets not forget that yara is shutting down tringen 1 for maintenance this month and they not sure to bring it back up as covid killing ammonia prices too. this is in addition to the small yara plant which closed sometime in december because it couldnt get a good gas price. Also, don't forget Nutrien too. I think they have 2 ammonia plants down at the moment. Can't say which ones right now but the first one they shut down was supposed to have a 3 month assessment time. that was sometime in the beginning of May. All now Nutrien should be confirming if they plan to keep the plant down longer based on market conditions. With all the recent shut downs, nobody retrench yet. Covid getting worse though and rel plants idle. Draw your own conclusions because these companies cant be paying employees indefinitely with their cash flows significantly reduced.

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Postby jhonnieblue » September 23rd, 2020, 2:09 pm

The minister just issued a reply stating that point lisas is not under duress.
He went so far to say that plant will be restarted soon.

Right now m3 is coming up but they only have a 6 month gas contract. Nutrien may look at 02 as well with it currently down till end of year. Things not looking good for atlantic LNG train 1.
What plan does the govt have to deal with this expect the usual hope and pray commodity prices improve??

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Postby DreamWeaver » September 23rd, 2020, 7:33 pm

jhonnieblue wrote:The minister just issued a reply stating that point lisas is not under duress.
He went so far to say that plant will be restarted soon.

Right now m3 is coming up but they only have a 6 month gas contract. Nutrien may look at 02 as well with it currently down till end of year. Things not looking good for atlantic LNG train 1.
What plan does the govt have to deal with this expect the usual hope and pray commodity prices improve??


I see like contractors rel wukkin on m2 all now. muh padnah wukking ah few weeks there. They saying they going to start it up. them get ah 6 month bligh too? ah wonder how farmland and cnc/n2k doing. ammonia prices in d toilet for months now. can't be sustainable. Nutrien set ah target and stick to it. No market improvement so shut down. them other ammonia companies must be contemplating the same.

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Postby De Dragon » September 24th, 2020, 12:22 am

jhonnieblue wrote:The minister just issued a reply stating that point lisas is not under duress.
He went so far to say that plant will be restarted soon.

Right now m3 is coming up but they only have a 6 month gas contract. Nutrien may look at 02 as well with it currently down till end of year. Things not looking good for atlantic LNG train 1.
What plan does the govt have to deal with this expect the usual hope and pray commodity prices improve??

Like he knows more than the facking CEO? :?
Guy Smiley so out of touch it isn't funny. The Estate is now so dead, it's sad. All those spin off businesses suffering too as a result.

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Postby sMASH » September 24th, 2020, 6:16 am

nigerian giant refinery and ammonia plant. more production, price droppers.

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Postby De Dragon » November 1st, 2020, 3:20 am

Cantmis wrote:https://guardian.co.tt/business/bhp-drills-a-dry-hole-6.2.1241217.0a368aca34

While dry holes are common, JUHN Scarfy sold it as our energy future and now has a heap of egg on his already stupid looking face, much like when he boasted of going to Houston to "negotiate" gas prices with the major upstreamers and eneded up with nothing but a royal c0ck up on the Pt Lisas Estate and elsewhere.

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Postby jhonnieblue » November 1st, 2020, 7:10 am

There are many plans happening in the background right now. Dry wells are a common occurrence and only sensationalized by the news.
NGC should finalized a plan to review and change its value chain so the dow streamers may see a reprieve by next year.
There are movements being made by bp to increase of gas through matapal and the restructure of atlantic is in its final stages. So from 2021 beyond we can see much improvement in the local energy sector.
Don't discount the green hydrogen plant as well.

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Postby De Dragon » November 1st, 2020, 7:33 am

jhonnieblue wrote:There are many plans happening in the background right now. Dry wells are a common occurrence and only sensationalized by the news.
NGC should finalized a plan to review and change its value chain so the dow streamers may see a reprieve by next year.
There are movements being made by bp to increase of gas through matapal and the restructure of atlantic is in its final stages. So from 2021 beyond we can see much improvement in the local energy sector.
Don't discount the green hydrogen plant as well.

Somebody has to be a loser if this is true.Either NGC gives up some of their margin, or the down streamers do. As we saw recently with the acrimonious NGC vs IPSL, closures of Yara, Atlas etc, it isn't likely to be NGC.

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Postby Rockram » November 19th, 2020, 11:35 am

One year after Yara Trinidad Ltd announced the closure of its wholly-owned ammonia plant at Point Lisas, its workers were yesterday instructed to attend a meeting today with company officials.

It is believed the meeting, which will be held by their line managers and the human resource manager, will be to discuss retrenchment terms.

On November 13, 2019, Yara announced the closure of its ammonia plant, citing plant profitability and failed negotiations with the National Gas Company of Trinidad (NGC).

Yesterday, employees either received a phone call or were notified via emailed to attend the meeting.

A copy of the letter sent to employees, which Guardian Media obtained, advises, “You may opt to have your union representative present at the aforementioned meeting.”

Employees are represented by the Oilfield Workers’ Trade Union, whose president-general Ancel Roget. In January, the OWTU stood in solidarity with workers who staged a protest over possible job cuts. It was reported back then that 70 workers were likely to face the breadline.

The ammonia plant is one of three operated by Yara Trinidad. The remaining two plants, Tringen I and Tringen II, are jointly owned by Yara International ASA and National Enterprises Ltd.

“All the workers received letters except corporate staff. We are talking about engineers, process operators and maintenance technicians among others. Everyone is uneasy because we don’t know what is going to happen at this meeting,” one affected worker told Guardian Media.

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Postby zoom rader » November 19th, 2020, 12:40 pm

^^^ Well the red Goverment killied the energy industry.

Eric William turning in this water grave.

Fact is the red Goverment does not care about industry no longer. They see it fille with mostly non red Goverment supporters and it does not affect them.

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Postby De Dragon » November 21st, 2020, 2:57 am

Rockram wrote:One year after Yara Trinidad Ltd announced the closure of its wholly-owned ammonia plant at Point Lisas, its workers were yesterday instructed to attend a meeting today with company officials.

It is believed the meeting, which will be held by their line managers and the human resource manager, will be to discuss retrenchment terms.

On November 13, 2019, Yara announced the closure of its ammonia plant, citing plant profitability and failed negotiations with the National Gas Company of Trinidad (NGC).

Yesterday, employees either received a phone call or were notified via emailed to attend the meeting.

A copy of the letter sent to employees, which Guardian Media obtained, advises, “You may opt to have your union representative present at the aforementioned meeting.”

Employees are represented by the Oilfield Workers’ Trade Union, whose president-general Ancel Roget. In January, the OWTU stood in solidarity with workers who staged a protest over possible job cuts. It was reported back then that 70 workers were likely to face the breadline.

The ammonia plant is one of three operated by Yara Trinidad. The remaining two plants, Tringen I and Tringen II, are jointly owned by Yara International ASA and National Enterprises Ltd.

“All the workers received letters except corporate staff. We are talking about engineers, process operators and maintenance technicians among others. Everyone is uneasy because we don’t know what is going to happen at this meeting,” one affected worker told Guardian Media.

Thank you JUHN Scarfy! Your decisiveness and firm action whereby you "mannersed" those giants Shell/BP etc, is starting to finally bear fruit!

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Postby DreamWeaver » November 25th, 2020, 5:03 pm

So any outcome from that YARA meeting? I aint see anything in the news. One ah mih industry padnahs tell mih that they were looking at converting the mothballed plant into a renewable ammonia plant actually. Anybody else heard this?

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Postby sMASH » November 25th, 2020, 6:22 pm

Trinidad doesn't have any sources of renewable energy on the the scale necessary to power one of those plants.

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Postby DreamWeaver » January 3rd, 2021, 12:47 pm

anybody know how long is train 1 turnaround? whole ah 2021? cause i waiting to see where dey get gas

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Postby Joshie23 » January 3rd, 2021, 3:27 pm

DreamWeaver wrote:anybody know how long is train 1 turnaround? whole ah 2021? cause i waiting to see where dey get gas


Ortoire, perhaps?

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Postby DreamWeaver » January 3rd, 2021, 7:23 pm

Joshie23 wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:anybody know how long is train 1 turnaround? whole ah 2021? cause i waiting to see where dey get gas


Ortoire, perhaps?


any details on that? like how much mmscf/d could be produced? They keep saying significant but nobody saying how much. plus only some of it coming online in march. the rest is quite end of the year, right?

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Postby Cantmis » January 3rd, 2021, 9:01 pm

How much do we consume BTW?

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Postby DreamWeaver » January 3rd, 2021, 9:57 pm

Cantmis wrote:How much do we consume BTW?


was like, over 4,000 mmscf/d (4 billion) back in manning and kamla time but it drop to like below 3,000 mmscf/d last year.

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Postby Cantmis » January 3rd, 2021, 10:41 pm

Touchstone estimate 1tcf (1000 billion). 1000/4 = 250 days usage ?

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Postby De Dragon » January 3rd, 2021, 11:17 pm

DreamWeaver wrote:anybody know how long is train 1 turnaround? whole ah 2021? cause i waiting to see where dey get gas

Ask JUHN Scarfy/LFDRFD PNM crew, after all they are bankrolling it :roll:

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Postby DreamWeaver » January 4th, 2021, 8:16 am

De Dragon wrote:
DreamWeaver wrote:anybody know how long is train 1 turnaround? whole ah 2021? cause i waiting to see where dey get gas

Ask JUHN Scarfy/LFDRFD PNM crew, after all they are bankrolling it :roll:

well for sure they cant let train 1 sit idle after its govt-funded turnaround otherwise govt will be looking rel bad after spending all that money and saying train 1 not shutting down and how they had negotiate an 'alleged' good revenue contract with train 1. I know bp say they have no gas for train 1 in 2021 though. Maybe touchstone gas is for train 1? Of course that all depends on how much they can process. Next thing touchstone find 1 tcf and could only process 100mmscf/d. lol. Train 1 need like 442mmscf/d to run normal

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