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adnj wrote:So there was a possible reaction to a vaccine and no one knows what caused it.meccalli wrote:adnj wrote:Vaccine or virus causing lung damage? How would you be able to tell the difference? Who is suppressing that information? How do "they" benefit from suppressing the information? Once vaccinated you will test positive on a Covid antigen test. Did your friend bother to receive an antigen test prior to vaccination?
30 years old , frontline. Had regular testing all throughout the pandemic. No co morbidities and former athlete, initial reaction to the AZ was tightness in chest, shortness of breath, numb arms. Sent home with antihistamines and steroids, symptoms worsened to the point of hospitalisation. Initial findings, laryngeal erythema, mild edema and lower lobe segmented bronchiolitis with tree in bud appearance along with peribronchial opacifications. Further analysis determined there seemed to be permanent scarring and dilation, Bronchiectasis which is basically a result of chronic viral infection, despite not having the flu in the past 2 years. Recommendations going forward was testing for TB via mantoux. many other issues now gastrointestinally as well as the reticularis of the skin. Can't exert herself in small tasks before losing breath. That's the long and short, this happened with the initial vaccinations of health workers. I can't speak personally to the several other cases i heard of from close contacts, but this is first hand information. I'm not going to speak to anything regarding suppression because I know this is tuner and the hive mind is easily provoked.
Moving right along...
According to the latest WHO data published in 2018 Coronary Heart Disease Deaths in Trinidad and Tobago reached 2,137 or 19.68% of total deaths. The age adjusted Death Rate is 134.14 per 100,000 of population ranks Trinidad and Tobago #82 in the world.Wraith King wrote:adnj wrote:Vaccine or virus causing lung damage? How would you be able to tell the difference? Who is suppressing that information? How do "they" benefit from suppressing the information? Once vaccinated you will test positive on a Covid antigen test. Did your friend bother to receive an antigen test prior to vaccination?meccalli wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:72hr update from 2nd shot Az...moms is well...my old man....well take a look what developed under one foot....scratches head.
There are rashes associated with the AZ shot, idk if this is one. He is heading to a GP tomorrow.
Thankfully it's just that... A personal friend of mine who is a doctor has potentially permanent lung damage from the AZ, of course she's being ignored. I can only imagine how many other people had issues that are being suppressed and downplayed...maybe even fatal. I only mention this because one of the reactions were livedo reticularis of the skin.
One of the major consequences of Covid-19 infection recovery is the likelihood of lung damage.
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Three Factors in Coronavirus Lung Damage
Galiatsatos notes three factors that affect the lung damage risk in COVID-19 infections and how likely the person is to recover and regain lung function:
Disease severity. “The first is the severity of the coronavirus infection itself — whether the person has a mild case, or a severe one,” Galiatsatos says. Milder cases are less likely to cause lasting scars in the lung tissue.
Health conditions. Galiatsatos says, “The second is whether there are existing health problems, such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) or heart disease that can raise the risk for severe disease.” Older people are also more vulnerable for a severe case of COVID-19. Their lung tissues may be less elastic, and they may have weakened immunity because of advanced age.
Treatment. “Treatment is the third factor,” he says. “A patient’s recovery and long-term lung health is going to depend on what kind of care they get, and how quickly.” Timely support in the hospital for severely ill patients can minimize lung damage.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... -the-lungs
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/man-dies-8-days-after-taking-covid-vaccine-6.2.1315873.9da1deb7cb
Wraith King wrote:adnj wrote:So there was a possible reaction to a vaccine and no one knows what caused it.meccalli wrote:adnj wrote:Vaccine or virus causing lung damage? How would you be able to tell the difference? Who is suppressing that information? How do "they" benefit from suppressing the information? Once vaccinated you will test positive on a Covid antigen test. Did your friend bother to receive an antigen test prior to vaccination?
30 years old , frontline. Had regular testing all throughout the pandemic. No co morbidities and former athlete, initial reaction to the AZ was tightness in chest, shortness of breath, numb arms. Sent home with antihistamines and steroids, symptoms worsened to the point of hospitalisation. Initial findings, laryngeal erythema, mild edema and lower lobe segmented bronchiolitis with tree in bud appearance along with peribronchial opacifications. Further analysis determined there seemed to be permanent scarring and dilation, Bronchiectasis which is basically a result of chronic viral infection, despite not having the flu in the past 2 years. Recommendations going forward was testing for TB via mantoux. many other issues now gastrointestinally as well as the reticularis of the skin. Can't exert herself in small tasks before losing breath. That's the long and short, this happened with the initial vaccinations of health workers. I can't speak personally to the several other cases i heard of from close contacts, but this is first hand information. I'm not going to speak to anything regarding suppression because I know this is tuner and the hive mind is easily provoked.
Moving right along...
Not just "possible" but seemingly "most likely". Notice how someone was quick to question whether the person that suffering from side effects from the vaccine had the virus. After the poster stated she was a frontline worker and had regular testing there is silence. Taking the vaccine has possible side effects and persons which persons should take into consideration. Don't let pro vax or anti vax persons make a decision for you regarding your health. Consider what is best for you and those you're responsible for.
PariaMan wrote:What this guy is saying is just hearsay evidence and should be treated as such
So I do not see how anyone could use that as a basis for not taking the vaccine
timelapse wrote:I could have predicted:
All the time :If the vaccines so good,why it not approved?
Vaccine gets approved:
Now:What makes you think that the people doing the approval can be trusted?
Hahhahha ...good oneWraith King wrote:aaron17 wrote:Can someone give me a link or list out the components in the sinopharm vaccine?
I want to look up regarding to anaphylaxis and any relation to shellfish(lobster). The only time and last time I ate that is when I ended up at the gen. hospital and they inject me with something to deflame my swollen areas...eyes, nose, mouth/tongue, and a sandy feeling in throat when swallowing. Not me and that nah.
I am not finding it easy on google.
50% Chinese magic; and
50% Keith Rowley's trust me bro, it works.
Wraith King wrote:timelapse wrote:I could have predicted:
All the time :If the vaccines so good,why it not approved?
Vaccine gets approved:
Now:What makes you think that the people doing the approval can be trusted?
The government accepting liability for possible side effects will go a long way in strengthening public confidence in the vaccine.
I said it before and will say it again, taking or not taking the vaccine is a personal choice. You decide what is best for you and those you are responsible for and let others decide what is best for them and those they are responsible for.
PariaMan wrote:I agree that choice should also be extended to employers they should be able to refuse to accept none vaccinated workers
Business places should also be allowed to refuse entry to non vacinated customersWraith King wrote:timelapse wrote:I could have predicted:
All the time :If the vaccines so good,why it not approved?
Vaccine gets approved:
Now:What makes you think that the people doing the approval can be trusted?
The government accepting liability for possible side effects will go a long way in strengthening public confidence in the vaccine.
I said it before and will say it again, taking or not taking the vaccine is a personal choice. You decide what is best for you and those you are responsible for and let others decide what is best for them and those they are responsible for.
PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
PariaMan wrote:What this guy is saying is just hearsay evidence and should be treated as such
So I do not see how anyone could use that as a basis for not taking the vaccine
Wraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
meccalli wrote:PariaMan wrote:What this guy is saying is just hearsay evidence and should be treated as such
So I do not see how anyone could use that as a basis for not taking the vaccine
Hearsay? It's one thing to call out people on bs stories. But that's just offensive. I only posted that because of shake's father's reaction in the hope that they will take it seriously and not let any doctor pass it off, only to have something detrimental happen down the line. I guess some countries decided to suspend it's usage over hearsay evidence..
Wraith King wrote:meccalli wrote:PariaMan wrote:What this guy is saying is just hearsay evidence and should be treated as such
So I do not see how anyone could use that as a basis for not taking the vaccine
Hearsay? It's one thing to call out people on bs stories. But that's just offensive. I only posted that because of shake's father's reaction in the hope that they will take it seriously and not let any doctor pass it off, only to have something detrimental happen down the line. I guess some countries decided to suspend it's usage over hearsay evidence..
You are right about it being offensive but PariaMan's view is just his opinion. I'm thankful for the information that you had put forward. Even if noone else is grateful you did the right thing by trying to inform others of possible side effects. How they receive that information is up to them.
PariaMan wrote:I agree that choice should also be extended to employers they should be able to refuse to accept none vaccinated workers
Business places should also be allowed to refuse entry to non vacinated customers
timelapse wrote:I could have predicted:
All the time :If the vaccines so good,why it not approved?
Vaccine gets approved:
Now:What makes you think that the people doing the approval can be trusted?
PariaMan wrote:So why not give the employer the right to protect his vaccinated workers and customers and those who cannot for medical reasons take the vaccine ?
That's the free choice I want to see
This is the view that is beginning to spread
New York now demanding proof of vaccine for in house dining
By all means refuse but live with all the consequences of your actionsWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
PariaMan wrote:So why not give the employer the right to protect his vaccinated workers and customers and those who cannot for medical reasons take the vaccine ?
That's the free choice I want to see
This is the view that is beginning to spread
New York now demanding proof of vaccine for in house dining
By all means refuse but live with all the consequences of your actionsWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
OSHA wrote:DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:There are several people who experienced major side effects with AZ right in Trinidad. From death, paralysis from waist down, clots leading to strokes/heart attacks, rashes etc etc.
The thing is, those in authority are not pursuing the matter further because of the potential increase in vaccine hesitant people. Trotman made a BIG blunder recently when she spoke of the deaths associated with the vaccine.
Europe has thousands of cases with adverse side effects to AZ....so why is it all hearsay in trinidad? Or why is it not being highlighted as in other countries?
Wraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:So why not give the employer the right to protect his vaccinated workers and customers and those who cannot for medical reasons take the vaccine ?
That's the free choice I want to see
This is the view that is beginning to spread
New York now demanding proof of vaccine for in house dining
By all means refuse but live with all the consequences of your actionsWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
The free choice you want to see are discrimination to human rights. If an employer wants to make vaccination mandatory let him accept liability.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:There are several people who experienced major side effects with AZ right in Trinidad. From death, paralysis from waist down, clots leading to strokes/heart attacks, rashes etc etc.
The thing is, those in authority are not pursuing the matter further because of the potential increase in vaccine hesitant people. Trotman made a BIG blunder recently when she spoke of the deaths associated with the vaccine.
Europe has thousands of cases with adverse side effects to AZ....so why is it all hearsay in trinidad? Or why is it not being highlighted as in other countries?
Was referring to this @ Computerman.wing wrote:So true
PariaMan wrote:No sir the consequence cannot simply be your health when your action can result in the death of immunocompromised individuals who for medical reasons cannot take the vaccine
If your are saying the consequence is just the health of the individual then every attempt must be made to ensure he does not transmit the disease if infected it's just logical
In some countries it is a crime to knowly transmit the aids virusPariaMan wrote:So why not give the employer the right to protect his vaccinated workers and customers and those who cannot for medical reasons take the vaccine ?
That's the free choice I want to see
This is the view that is beginning to spread
New York now demanding proof of vaccine for in house dining
By all means refuse but live with all the consequences of your actionsWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
PariaMan wrote:No
As a judgement in the USA an employee is always free to leave a job if he does not agree to the terms and conditions
Freedom of choice cannot simply be limited to favour some individuals and not othersWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:So why not give the employer the right to protect his vaccinated workers and customers and those who cannot for medical reasons take the vaccine ?
That's the free choice I want to see
This is the view that is beginning to spread
New York now demanding proof of vaccine for in house dining
By all means refuse but live with all the consequences of your actionsWraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:I am all for free choice
But with free choice must come acceptance of the consequences of free choice
The consequences in this case will be ones health. Segregation cannot logically be a consequence of free choice.
The free choice you want to see are discrimination to human rights. If an employer wants to make vaccination mandatory let him accept liability.
PariaMan wrote:Here we go again with hearsay evidence of people being affected
I am not collecting any data so I have to go with what those who are collecting say and they say noone who is fully vaccinated has died in Trinidad
I can personally say I know no one with lasting side effects however I personally know at least 20 people who have died from the virusshake d livin wake d dead wrote:There are several people who experienced major side effects with AZ right in Trinidad. From death, paralysis from waist down, clots leading to strokes/heart attacks, rashes etc etc.
The thing is, those in authority are not pursuing the matter further because of the potential increase in vaccine hesitant people. Trotman made a BIG blunder recently when she spoke of the deaths associated with the vaccine.
Europe has thousands of cases with adverse side effects to AZ....so why is it all hearsay in trinidad? Or why is it not being highlighted as in other countries?
timelapse wrote:Was referring to this @ Computerman.wing wrote:So true1576100987.jpg
It is also personal preference to have unprotected sex with someone and not tell them that you are HIV positive.A while after they die, guess what? In some countries you will be accused of murder.
timelapse wrote:Was referring to this @ Computerman.wing wrote:So true1576100987.jpg
It is also personal preference to have unprotected sex with someone and not tell them that you are HIV positive.A while after they die, guess what? In some countries you will be accused of murder.
Wraith King wrote:PariaMan wrote:Here we go again with hearsay evidence of people being affected
I am not collecting any data so I have to go with what those who are collecting say and they say noone who is fully vaccinated has died in Trinidad
I can personally say I know no one with lasting side effects however I personally know at least 20 people who have died from the virusshake d livin wake d dead wrote:There are several people who experienced major side effects with AZ right in Trinidad. From death, paralysis from waist down, clots leading to strokes/heart attacks, rashes etc etc.
The thing is, those in authority are not pursuing the matter further because of the potential increase in vaccine hesitant people. Trotman made a BIG blunder recently when she spoke of the deaths associated with the vaccine.
Europe has thousands of cases with adverse side effects to AZ....so why is it all hearsay in trinidad? Or why is it not being highlighted as in other countries?
Posting this for the third time today.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/man-dies-8-days-after-taking-covid-vaccine-6.2.1315873.9da1deb7cb
There are other suspected cases that haven't made the news.
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