Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods
Mmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg
Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine
Tbh I agree..hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go homeMmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg
Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine
hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go homeMmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg
Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine
Mmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go homeMmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg
Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine
Exactly, they are free to rome just like illegals. The safest person to enter the country is an unvaccinated person. Also remember with the delta variant, vaccinated people and unvaccinated people carry the same viral load, hence why the cdc change their guidelines to say that vaccinated people should still wear masks.
Trini "culture and mind" would be our downfallaaron17 wrote:Wtf..alot of ppl in my area playing music and partying....because more places opening up tomorrow? They close to each other ...no mask like the pandemic done. That is why we gonna get more cases....vac or not.
aaron17 wrote:Wtf..alot of ppl in my area playing music and partying....because more places opening up tomorrow? They close to each other ...no mask like the pandemic done. That is why we gonna get more cases....vac or not.
Mmoney607 wrote:6/7 deaths don't grab the headlines but in a week close to 50 people could die. And yes we know it's a decrease but that's still way too much for a country that has spent many billions on health.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:6/7 deaths don't grab the headlines but in a week close to 50 people could die. And yes we know it's a decrease but that's still way too much for a country that has spent many billions on health.
Only 22% of the population of T&T is fully vaccinated.
Dohplaydat wrote:Let's hope we can stop this one from getting out of control.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Let's hope we can stop this one from getting out of control.
That will require a LOT of hope.
Retail is officially opening back up tomorrow.
Personal care services (barber, salon, spa etc) next week.
Delta variant is here with higher contagion than chickenpox.
DMan7 wrote:Allya still wearing masks?
hover11 wrote:No need to wear masks when you vaccinated bro go strongDMan7 wrote:Allya still wearing masks?
hover11 wrote:who will be monitoring those 6000 in home isolation
drchaos wrote:viedcht wrote:A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.redmanjp wrote:Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting
I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.
Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.
abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:
![]()
Have you read the posts here?
Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.
And you asking who here fear mongering?![]()
![]()
how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1
Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy
You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
drchaos wrote:abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:
how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1
Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy
You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
If you knew anything about Homeopathy you would know they don't use/rely on allopathic blood tests. HBA1C, Lipid profiles/cardiovascular assessments are against their ethos.
Now I get you ... You have no clue about how the field of medicine is practiced.
adnj wrote:abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:
how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1
Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy
You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe
drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.drchaos wrote:
Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy
You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe
Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.
A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.
There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.
Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe
Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.
A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.
There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
From the research:
"SARS-CoV-2 gains entry to human cells through a receptor known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). ACE2 is found on the surface of cells that line the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, intestinal tract and testes, as well as other cells. Binding of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to ACE2 receptors activates inflammation and is likely the first step in a series of damaging immune responses."
I can't type it any slower for you.
.....drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:abducted wrote:drchaos wrote:st7 wrote:drchaos wrote:
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.
There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.
i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?
if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.
Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.
The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.
Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe
Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.
A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.
There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...
It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.
From the research:
"SARS-CoV-2 gains entry to human cells through a receptor known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). ACE2 is found on the surface of cells that line the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, intestinal tract and testes, as well as other cells. Binding of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to ACE2 receptors activates inflammation and is likely the first step in a series of damaging immune responses."
I can't type it any slower for you.
You still haven't gotten it ...Try again![]()
![]()
Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 13 guests