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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm

There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go home
Mmoney607 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg


Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine

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Postby gastly369 » August 15th, 2021, 3:07 pm

hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go home
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hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg


Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine
Tbh I agree..

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 15th, 2021, 3:08 pm

hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go home
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hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg


Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine


Exactly, they are free to rome just like illegals. The safest person to enter the country is an unvaccinated person. Also remember with the delta variant, vaccinated people and unvaccinated people carry the same viral load, hence why the cdc change their guidelines to say that vaccinated people should still wear masks.

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 3:18 pm

I wouldnt doubt delta is amongst the population but because we haven't fully reopened as yet it is undetected
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hover11 wrote:There needs to be testing of vaccinated people at least 7 days after entry because they too can carry and transmit the virus. This open door policy for vaccinated people not making any sense ....you realize they only discover it in unvaccinated nationals because they have to state quarantine but the vaccinated simply go home
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hover11 wrote:Third case of deltaFB_IMG_1629049299053.jpg


Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine


Exactly, they are free to rome just like illegals. The safest person to enter the country is an unvaccinated person. Also remember with the delta variant, vaccinated people and unvaccinated people carry the same viral load, hence why the cdc change their guidelines to say that vaccinated people should still wear masks.

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Postby aaron17 » August 15th, 2021, 3:55 pm

Wtf..alot of ppl in my area playing music and partying....because more places opening up tomorrow? They close to each other ...no mask like the pandemic done. That is why we gonna get more cases....vac or not.

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Postby gastly369 » August 15th, 2021, 4:03 pm

aaron17 wrote:Wtf..alot of ppl in my area playing music and partying....because more places opening up tomorrow? They close to each other ...no mask like the pandemic done. That is why we gonna get more cases....vac or not.
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Postby MaxPower » August 15th, 2021, 4:12 pm

aaron17 wrote:Wtf..alot of ppl in my area playing music and partying....because more places opening up tomorrow? They close to each other ...no mask like the pandemic done. That is why we gonna get more cases....vac or not.


Correct,

Let’s see how dred this Delta really is.

Trinis asses are just too happy and they need a wake up call.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2021, 4:25 pm

COVID Update: August 15th 2021
• Tests: 288131 (+690)
• Cases: 41866 (+190)
• Active: 6178 (+26)
• Deaths: 1180 (+7)
• Recovery: 34508 (+157)
• Vaxxed (1st Dose): 452509 (+3488)
• Vaxxed (2nd Dose): 308205 (+15242)
• Mortality Rate: 2.8%
• Population Tested: 20.5%

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Postby aaron17 » August 15th, 2021, 4:38 pm

Weekend cases 190?....hmmmm
Sign of things to come?

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 15th, 2021, 4:41 pm

6/7 deaths don't grab the headlines but in a week close to 50 people could die. And yes we know it's a decrease but that's still way too much for a country that has spent many billions on health.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2021, 4:44 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:6/7 deaths don't grab the headlines but in a week close to 50 people could die. And yes we know it's a decrease but that's still way too much for a country that has spent many billions on health.

Only 22% of the population of T&T is fully vaccinated.

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 4:46 pm

Also we reopening malls and retail from tomorrow...who will be monitoring those 6000 in home isolation
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Mmoney607 wrote:6/7 deaths don't grab the headlines but in a week close to 50 people could die. And yes we know it's a decrease but that's still way too much for a country that has spent many billions on health.

Only 22% of the population of T&T is fully vaccinated.

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2021, 4:46 pm

Things are trending upward slowly.

The Rnaught is over 1.
CleanShot 2021-08-15 at 9.43.31@2x.png


Active cases are slowly trending upward
CleanShot 2021-08-15 at 9.41.51@2x.png


Testing has been relatively consistent, but cases are starting to rise which indicates an increase in the positivity rate.
CleanShot 2021-08-15 at 9.42.04@2x.png


In conclusion, we might be in for the next spike. Let's hope we can stop this one from getting out of control.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2021, 5:27 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Let's hope we can stop this one from getting out of control.

That will require a LOT of hope.
Retail is officially opening back up tomorrow.
Personal care services (barber, salon, spa etc) next week.
Delta variant is here with higher contagion than chickenpox.

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Postby bluefete » August 15th, 2021, 7:38 pm

What your children can expect with the Delta strain:


https://nypost.com/2021/08/15/family-wa ... pitalized/

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Postby pugboy » August 15th, 2021, 7:43 pm

and a general dropping of the guard as folks assume with these openings and the constant vax talk that things good to go

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Let's hope we can stop this one from getting out of control.

That will require a LOT of hope.
Retail is officially opening back up tomorrow.
Personal care services (barber, salon, spa etc) next week.
Delta variant is here with higher contagion than chickenpox.

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Postby DMan7 » August 15th, 2021, 7:59 pm

Allya still wearing masks? :|

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 8:05 pm

No need to wear masks when you vaccinated bro go strong
DMan7 wrote:Allya still wearing masks? :|

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Postby DMan7 » August 15th, 2021, 8:23 pm

hover11 wrote:No need to wear masks when you vaccinated bro go strong
DMan7 wrote:Allya still wearing masks? :|


Ya done kno! 8-)

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Postby MaxPower » August 15th, 2021, 8:31 pm

hover11 wrote:who will be monitoring those 6000 in home isolation


Mr. Delta

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Postby BUG » August 15th, 2021, 10:28 pm

drchaos wrote:
viedcht wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting
A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.


I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.

Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.


"I trust my immune system" is one one of the dumbest things you've said here Chaos and you're the dunce who can't read the research papers you cite in the attempt to validate your uneducated opinions. So that's saying a lot.

Yeah, I trust my immune system to protect me too, which is why I gave it a detailed dossier on what the virus looks like so it can handle it.

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Postby drchaos » August 15th, 2021, 10:44 pm

abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?


how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1


Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.


You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


If you knew anything about Homeopathy you would know they don't use/rely on allopathic blood tests. HBA1C, Lipid profiles/cardiovascular assessments are against their ethos.
Now I get you ... You have no clue about how the field of medicine is practiced.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 15th, 2021, 10:58 pm

drchaos wrote:
abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1


Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.


You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


If you knew anything about Homeopathy you would know they don't use/rely on allopathic blood tests. HBA1C, Lipid profiles/cardiovascular assessments are against their ethos.
Now I get you ... You have no clue about how the field of medicine is practiced.


The usual, they just regurgitate what they see on the American liberal media.

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Postby drchaos » August 15th, 2021, 11:01 pm

adnj wrote:
abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1


Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.


You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe


Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.

A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.

There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...

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Postby adnj » August 15th, 2021, 11:20 pm

drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."
Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.


You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe


Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.

A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.

There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...



It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

From the research:

"SARS-CoV-2 gains entry to human cells through a receptor known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). ACE2 is found on the surface of cells that line the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, intestinal tract and testes, as well as other cells. Binding of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to ACE2 receptors activates inflammation and is likely the first step in a series of damaging immune responses."

I can't type it any slower for you.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2021, 11:49 pm

Jamaica's population is TWICE that of T&T and our 28 day total deaths is higher than theirs

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Postby drchaos » August 16th, 2021, 12:16 am

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.


You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe


Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.

A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.

There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...



It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

From the research:

"SARS-CoV-2 gains entry to human cells through a receptor known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). ACE2 is found on the surface of cells that line the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, intestinal tract and testes, as well as other cells. Binding of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to ACE2 receptors activates inflammation and is likely the first step in a series of damaging immune responses."

I can't type it any slower for you.


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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 40889 cases, 1151 deaths, 5911 active, 33827 recovered in T&T

Postby adnj » August 16th, 2021, 4:55 am

drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
adnj wrote:
abducted wrote:
drchaos wrote:
st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.


i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.


Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience


It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe


Your understanding and interpretation of this is very Homo Habilis
An immune system functions by achieving balance between being overactive and underactive.

A dysfunctional Innate immune system reacting in an abnormal way results in the scenario you posted above.
A healthy innate immune system prevents pathogens from being established within the body. Its one of the reasons why people can be exposed to high viral load situations and not get infected.

There is a reason why we haven't all gone extinct yet ...



It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

From the research:

"SARS-CoV-2 gains entry to human cells through a receptor known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). ACE2 is found on the surface of cells that line the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, intestinal tract and testes, as well as other cells. Binding of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to ACE2 receptors activates inflammation and is likely the first step in a series of damaging immune responses."

I can't type it any slower for you.


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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 41866 cases, 1180 deaths, 6178 active, 34508 recovered in T&T

Postby Dohplaydat » August 16th, 2021, 5:06 am

Long COVID and Severe Infections Associated with Epstein-Barr Virus Reactivation - "We found over 73% of COVID-19 patients who were experiencing long Covid symptoms were also positive for EBV reactivation", said lead study author Jeffrey Gold.

https://www.laboratoryequipment.com/577 ... ctivation/

EBV is the virus that causes mono, it hangs out in your body waiting to reactivate when the immune system is beaten down.

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