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sMASH wrote:2.3m people in Gaza, it barely bigger thsn Tobago, comparable to twice the tnt populstuon in the east /west corridor... Where else Will they operate?meccalli wrote:sMASH wrote:Hamas is evil snd terrorist cause it killed civilians.
Isreal has air striked 1700 civilian men women snd children gaza ,, barely any hamas actors if at all.
Shouldn't Isreal have that same label?
Possibly, many ways to skin a cat right?
Israel cuts off humanitarian essentials like water to Gaza to have their people released.
Hamas cuts off essential supplies to their own people when they dig up water pipes and use funds given to them for desalination plants to make rockets , deprive their population of things like diesel and sugar to power their weapons/fuel, destroys initiatives like greenhouses and technology transfer that allowed israel to be self sufficient in a barren desert and weaponizes people's hunger against their neighbors because their beliefs tells them the apocalypse begins when Jews are wiped off the earth.
https://twitter.com/GLNoronha/status/17 ... ux57A&s=08
Or perhaps Israel likes to give warnings before they bomb innocent civilians while Hamas likes to build their tunnels and bunkers around their beloved civilians and key infrastructure. Or launch rockets from the roof of a hospital.
I mean it's hard work to stop being terrorists towards Israel and their own country by restoring the hostages, and at least cool the flame and allow people time to leave if they don't wish to be a part of the horrors to come. But no, they are asking people to give their souls and their blood in this effort.
Meanwhile the population in gaza continues to grow unabated into destitution. Some here are quite vocal about the people who live in the worst conditions and choose to have the most amount of children knowing fully well what they will have to face. But you need an army to feed the resistance efforts against your oppressors.
I have a bridge to sell you if you think hamas cares about palestinians.
Israel said for the 1m Gazans to move south, for the impending military operation .
Un already said that is impossible to do, so u Will have more civilian deaths in the 10's to 100's of thousands.
Israel is using the Hamas excuse to kill Palestinians. A more extreme version of how they evict Westbank Palestinians, and settle in their properties.
If Isreal can target the hamas actors snd get out, well at least.
But its not a fight against terrorism, it s thinly veiled extermination to grab all the land
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Plenty of space for Isreal to occupyadnj wrote:The Gaza strip has a population density of 5,500 people/km².sMASH wrote:2.3m people in Gaza, it barely bigger thsn Tobago, comparable to twice the tnt populstuon in the east /west corridor... Where else Will they operate?meccalli wrote:sMASH wrote:Hamas is evil snd terrorist cause it killed civilians.
Isreal has air striked 1700 civilian men women snd children gaza ,, barely any hamas actors if at all.
Shouldn't Isreal have that same label?
Possibly, many ways to skin a cat right?
Israel cuts off humanitarian essentials like water to Gaza to have their people released.
Hamas cuts off essential supplies to their own people when they dig up water pipes and use funds given to them for desalination plants to make rockets , deprive their population of things like diesel and sugar to power their weapons/fuel, destroys initiatives like greenhouses and technology transfer that allowed israel to be self sufficient in a barren desert and weaponizes people's hunger against their neighbors because their beliefs tells them the apocalypse begins when Jews are wiped off the earth.
https://twitter.com/GLNoronha/status/17 ... ux57A&s=08
Or perhaps Israel likes to give warnings before they bomb innocent civilians while Hamas likes to build their tunnels and bunkers around their beloved civilians and key infrastructure. Or launch rockets from the roof of a hospital.
I mean it's hard work to stop being terrorists towards Israel and their own country by restoring the hostages, and at least cool the flame and allow people time to leave if they don't wish to be a part of the horrors to come. But no, they are asking people to give their souls and their blood in this effort.
Meanwhile the population in gaza continues to grow unabated into destitution. Some here are quite vocal about the people who live in the worst conditions and choose to have the most amount of children knowing fully well what they will have to face. But you need an army to feed the resistance efforts against your oppressors.
I have a bridge to sell you if you think hamas cares about palestinians.
Israel said for the 1m Gazans to move south, for the impending military operation .
Un already said that is impossible to do, so u Will have more civilian deaths in the 10's to 100's of thousands.
Israel is using the Hamas excuse to kill Palestinians. A more extreme version of how they evict Westbank Palestinians, and settle in their properties.
If Isreal can target the hamas actors snd get out, well at least.
But its not a fight against terrorism, it s thinly veiled extermination to grab all the land
Less than 300 km to the East, Damascus, Syria, has a population density of 57,550 people/km² -- more than ten times the population density.
There is plenty of space.
sMASH wrote:Plenty of space for Isreal to occupy
meccalli wrote:sMASH wrote:Plenty of space for Isreal to occupy
CLearly
The Hamas charter . . . .
Article 6: “The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.”
Article 7: “The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.”
Article 13: “Palestine is an Islamic land… Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Muslim wherever he may be…There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility
1919: Arabs of Palestine refused to nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1939: The White Paper: rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab Committee for Palestine.
1946: Anglo-American Commission proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab Committee for Palestine/.
1949: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab committee for Palestine.
1967: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected by the Arab League and the PLO.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt) by the rest of the Arab world, including the PLO.
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt and Jordan).
1995: Rabin's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected by Yasser Arafat, who then initiated the pre-planned second intifada.
2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2005: Sharon's peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected by the Hamas takeover in 2007.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected by Mahmoud Abbas.
2009 to present: Netanyahu's repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2018: Trump’s “deal of the Century”, rejected in advance by Mahmoud Abbas.
2019: US Conference on Economic Benefit for the Palestinians, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2020: PA reiterates rejection of Trump’s “Deal of the Century” before it’s even presented.
2020 - The Palestinians reject the Peace Deal with the U.A.E. that allegedly stopped Israeli sovereignty being applied to areas within Judea and Samaria.
Not even the Arab Nations helped their cause, Jordan learn't fast what happens when you give them refuge when they tried to assisinate Hussein twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
computercentral wrote:Now saw abu son in front of the us embassy with some sort of flag probably trying to protest
sMASH wrote:Scrolling tru the book, embassy advertising they offering diversity visa. And on a lottery system.
Thought they over run with immigrants?
Seems like they bribing people to stay quiet, as well as increase the alphabet proportions IMG_20231013_144338.jpg
A lottery for Trinidad is an insult, but then again, our black population don't really meet the standards.paid_influencer wrote:sMASH wrote:Scrolling tru the book, embassy advertising they offering diversity visa. And on a lottery system.
Thought they over run with immigrants?
Seems like they bribing people to stay quiet, as well as increase the alphabet proportions IMG_20231013_144338.jpg
is a trap.
if i enter the lottery, i identify iself as having immigrant intent
if i apply for visitor visa after they will deny, since i have shown immigrant intent
and i probably ent winning the visa lottery either
Little boyadnj wrote:
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it was continuing to raid parts of Gaza “to complete the effort to cleanse the area of terrorists and weapons” on Friday, October 13.
sMASH wrote:If people come in ur house and put u to stay in a back shed, would u be balanced and measured?
All those occupation arrangements over the years, all of them involves Europeans displacing indigenous Palestinians.
Is like saying Columbus had rights.
sMASH wrote:meccalli wrote:sMASH wrote:Plenty of space for Isreal to occupy
CLearly
The Hamas charter . . . .
Article 6: “The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.”
Article 7: “The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.”
Article 13: “Palestine is an Islamic land… Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Muslim wherever he may be…There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility
1919: Arabs of Palestine refused to nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1939: The White Paper: rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab Committee for Palestine.
1946: Anglo-American Commission proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab Committee for Palestine/.
1949: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab committee for Palestine.
1967: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected by the Arab League and the PLO.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt) by the rest of the Arab world, including the PLO.
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt and Jordan).
1995: Rabin's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected by Yasser Arafat, who then initiated the pre-planned second intifada.
2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2005: Sharon's peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected by the Hamas takeover in 2007.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected by Mahmoud Abbas.
2009 to present: Netanyahu's repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2018: Trump’s “deal of the Century”, rejected in advance by Mahmoud Abbas.
2019: US Conference on Economic Benefit for the Palestinians, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.
2020: PA reiterates rejection of Trump’s “Deal of the Century” before it’s even presented.
2020 - The Palestinians reject the Peace Deal with the U.A.E. that allegedly stopped Israeli sovereignty being applied to areas within Judea and Samaria.
Not even the Arab Nations helped their cause, Jordan learn't fast what happens when you give them refuge when they tried to assisinate Hussein twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
That is extreme
If was 50/50 occupation of Palestine by both Palestine and Isreal, i would agree that that should be monitored
But given that Isreal occupies the vast majority of Palestine, thst is a manifesto of resistance to an occupation force.
If people come in ur house and put u to stay in a back shed, would u be balanced and measured?
All those occupation arrangements over the years, all of them involves Europeans displacing indigenous Palestinians.
Is like saying Columbus had rights.
Isreal wants the land, they want all the lsnd.meccalli wrote:sMASH wrote:If people come in ur house and put u to stay in a back shed, would u be balanced and measured?
All those occupation arrangements over the years, all of them involves Europeans displacing indigenous Palestinians.
Is like saying Columbus had rights.
No but you could be rational and go on with life like the endless descendants of people's to whom it's occurred to including the Jewish people on a multitude of occasions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion ... es_of_Jews
They however didn't force martrydom on their own children by provoking holy wars or developed and inculcated ideaologies in which they declared an eternal enemy, until which as long as it remains in existence, their purpose and faith won't come full circle.
People make the mistake of assuming Hamas and their supporters are rational people that can be reasoned with. A dead child killed in collateral damage is a martyr in a holy cause and enjoys the benefits in the afterlife in their eyes.
Ali Baraka himself this week explaining the attack, Hamas' strategy was convincing Israel that Hamas focus was on governing the 2.5Million Palestinians in Gaza. What does that tell you? These people don't give a damn about the welfare of anyone in Gaza, only their cause and if the beliefs of the people themselves are the same as their leaders, well.....
Not friends, just a random vid with some young people, in a different state.. Wisconsin was 5he only nsme i could Remeber from the captions.adnj wrote:Your FB friends probably don't know that Oshkosh Defense is in Oshkosh, WI.sMASH wrote:Another note, saw a fb vid of a freight train of 100's of apv's some where in Wisconsin i think.
That might have been ordered to beef up loss due to Ukraine and now might be diverted to Israeli defense.
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