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zoom rader wrote:Joe, South is not far from laventille pnm behaviour and as just as bad.j.o.e wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Tuner big brains: Everywhere is a hotspot
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If this were true I’d feel perfectly safe in south (born and grown) and central (currently residing). The hot spot ting don’t work anymore
San Do is one big PNM ghetto
Habit7 wrote:These are some random suspects I got from a Google search:
He returned fire, hitting one of the suspects, a 20-year-old man from Aranguez.
https://newsday.co.tt/2024/03/13/suspec ... n-wounded/
The driver, a 40-year-old labourer, of 5th Street Charles Street, Gasparillo was arrested while another vehicle was intercepted, and several stolen items were found in the occupants' possession. The driver of that car, a 30-year-old labourer of St. Barbs Road, Laventille, and a 34-year-old passenger of Carli Bay, Couva, were arrested. Officers of the South Western Division Task Force also responded and arrested a 35-year-old labourer, of Sea View Drive, Cap De Ville, Point Fortin, who was seen running away from the vehicle.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/four-su ... 82975e56c1
The suspect, who resides in Santa Cruz, is currently detained at the Woodbrook Police Station, assisting WPC Hosein who is leading enquiries into the report of robbery with violence.
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/home-invasion-su ... recovered/
The police were notified and launched an investigation which led to the arrest of David Seetahal, 18, Nathan Narine, 19, Roger Samlal, 29, and Daniel Martinez, 35, all of Hermitage Settlement, South Trinidad as well as Antonio Suchit, 21, and Kern Murrell, 40, of Arouca.
https://newsday.co.tt/2024/01/27/six-ch ... -invasion/
Thompson Gardens is a PNM hood and anywhere that have HDC pnm houses.The_Honourable wrote:zoom rader wrote:Joe, South is not far from laventille pnm behaviour and as just as bad.j.o.e wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Tuner big brains: Everywhere is a hotspot
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If this were true I’d feel perfectly safe in south (born and grown) and central (currently residing). The hot spot ting don’t work anymore
San Do is one big PNM ghetto
Where exactly? I know about Embacadere, around Olera Heights and most of Pleasantville.
Sando not sooo bad but you have a point. It's the businesses that keeping the city alive.
If you have to gamble, south safer but gangs keep increasing.
Habit7 issue is UNC fail to agree on PNM crime bills.Dizzy28 wrote:Habit 7 could continue arguing with the other politics posters In here. I'm not here to argue politics just facts.
AfroTrinidadians are twice as represented in prison than their share of the general population.
Afro Trinidadians are more than twice as represented in murder victims than their share of the population.
Apart from the US state department tier 3 warning for the country, highlighting certain areas the Gortt has always known that certain communities are more crime prone to the point in 2007 they commissioned a study which was continued in 2015.
The original hotspots and the 2015 hotspots below.
For some perverse reason he rather "all lives matter" the shid out of this issue than deal with the reality......something is not right with young African males in certain communities in this country. That those communities are PNM probably is his peeve however the first step in fixing something is knowing something is wrong.
It's not poverty since the poorest region of TT is Toco Sangre Grande and they are not a hot spot. Apart from that Port of Spain has no greater share of poverty than other areas of the country.
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Mero knows how crime works. He openly supports the culture of crime.pugboy wrote:they always pull out the poverty excuse
but whilst the young gang workers doing the dirty work of robberies and home invasions may be under poverty
the majority of the gang itself and the gang bosses certain live well with their vast jewellery
pugboy wrote:they always pull out the poverty excuse
but whilst the young gang workers doing the dirty work of robberies and home invasions may be under poverty
the majority of the gang itself and the gang bosses certain live well with their vast jewellery
pugboy wrote:sandra tired say on his show too is mostly that race
chris must list steering far from race though
he ain’t saying a word of race
Habit will ingore those vids and say u all don't like PNM.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:pugboy wrote:sandra tired say on his show too is mostly that race
chris must list steering far from race though
he ain’t saying a word of race
No words needed to explain those vids
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:pugboy wrote:sandra tired say on his show too is mostly that race
chris must list steering far from race though
he ain’t saying a word of race
No words needed to explain those vids
Habit7 wrote:It is easy to claim the PNM is responsible for the invdividual independent actions of free citizens. But the PNM is the majority of the Legislation. PNM is a policy and law maker. The only thing they can do is create policy and law. If the new laws to target the new reality of crime keeps either being restricted or watered down by other legislators, you are denying the reality. There is obviously one entity that will benefit from crime being tackled and there is another that thinks they benefit for the situation being bad.
Habit7 wrote:
But you have to play your role as a mindless PNM hater. And I have to play my role a logical PNM Cockroach
Dizzy28 wrote:Habit 7 could continue arguing with the other politics posters In here. I'm not here to argue politics just facts.
AfroTrinidadians are twice as represented in prison than their share of the general population.
zoom rader wrote:Racial profiling of PNM ghetto youths, stop and search, beat they Mother C**t
zoom rader wrote:Habit7 need to report back to his employers that black youths need to be targeted via stop and search, questioned what they doing in certain injun areas.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:How come at least 98% of the victims of home invasions are east Indians, Chinese or Syrians?
CB Style wrote:But here in Trinidad, how many more East Indian and Chinese lives have to be victims of crime at the hands of Africans until we can get justice? Or is that question too racist because that is not an issue?
zoom rader wrote:PNM Africans ara lawless, every time PNM in power its like they do what they want.
The_Honourable wrote:Now PNM is not going to pull that elimination trigger because they want afros dumbed down and beholden to the party.
daring dragoon wrote:gps all black men and crime done.
Dizzy28 wrote:Afro Trinidadians are more than twice as represented in murder victims than their share of the population.
Drastic measures now, the PNM black youths are in danger.Habit7 wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Habit 7 could continue arguing with the other politics posters In here. I'm not here to argue politics just facts.
AfroTrinidadians are twice as represented in prison than their share of the general population.
I don't think anybody here is denying that Afro Trini men have a disproportionate involvement in crime. You are creating a strawman.
What is being responded to are responses to fixing the problem like this:zoom rader wrote:Racial profiling of PNM ghetto youths, stop and search, beat they Mother C**tzoom rader wrote:Habit7 need to report back to his employers that black youths need to be targeted via stop and search, questioned what they doing in certain injun areas.shake d livin wake d dead wrote:How come at least 98% of the victims of home invasions are east Indians, Chinese or Syrians?CB Style wrote:But here in Trinidad, how many more East Indian and Chinese lives have to be victims of crime at the hands of Africans until we can get justice? Or is that question too racist because that is not an issue?zoom rader wrote:PNM Africans ara lawless, every time PNM in power its like they do what they want.The_Honourable wrote:Now PNM is not going to pull that elimination trigger because they want afros dumbed down and beholden to the party.daring dragoon wrote:gps all black men and crime done.
You cannot fight crime with racial discrimination. Yes, you can make targeted approaches to deal with the socio-economic influences that may shape Afro Trini men to commit more crimes. But to profile one particular ethnicity as the source of crime is illegal, if it is done systematically it will cause any criminal charge to be thrown out in court, T&T will be treated as an apartheid nation and the majority of the protective services are Afro Trini as well so they are not going to implement racism on themselves.
We have to solve our crime problem as one ppl not as divided ethnic groups. There are other Caribbean countries with >80% Afro descendants and don't have this level of crime. While there are Latin American countries with <10% Afro and have more crime than any Caribbean country. So we cannot make the error of correlation without causation. There are other factors that play a role such as urbanisation, poverty, education, the drug trade and others. Being racist about crime in T&T doesn't' solve the problem. It just makes Trinituner the outlet for some to come and spew their racism in anonymity then go back IRL and boast they are not racist because of how many Black friends they have.Dizzy28 wrote:Afro Trinidadians are more than twice as represented in murder victims than their share of the population.
So then how could the argument that Indo Trinis are being targeted make sense? Is it that innocent Afro Trinis deserve to be murdered because their own did it to them and they obviously were involved in something? And innocent Indo Trinis when murdered are truly innocent, unlike Afro Trinis? This is the mess we create when many ppl here in this thread and in the country inject race. "Afro Trinis are the majority victims but let's pay attention to the minority victims because the Afros kinda deserve it." Rather, how about we deal with the problem as a whole and forget race?
Like you, I am also dealing with facts and I cited the CoP referencing a Uni of Cambridge study that showed there are 188 hotspots throughout the country https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... 36bb814b0f . Crime cannot be solved by locking down Laventille and Diego Martin, killing business, ppl's constitutional freedom of movement, making angst and social decay worse and then thinking the rest of the country is fine. It was tried in the 2012 SoE and it failed. Just like how treating with crime cannot be isolated to one ethnicity, it cannot be isolated to one location.
And if you think my view is PNM, MP Paray agrees with me too https://tt.loopnews.com/content/mayaro- ... me-hotspot although nowadays he is persona non grata to the UNC, Kamla calls him a PNM, all while they rent their HQ from him.
Well are either going to hold the view that crime only impacts you when you are in a certain location by an individual of a certain ethnicity and if it happens outside that you have to demand they stop because they are cheating.Dizzy28 wrote:As I say I'm not here to argue politics of it nor the solutions ...that's not in my forte.
I'm merely disputing the "all the country" is a hotspot theory.
Even Erla's initial ten point plan focussed on certain communities because hotspots Screenshot_20240521-211353.jpgScreenshot_20240521-211500.jpg
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Stop spinningHabit7 wrote:Well are either going to hold the view that crime only impacts you when you are in a certain location by an individual of a certain ethnicity and if it happens outside that you have to demand they stop because they are cheating.Dizzy28 wrote:As I say I'm not here to argue politics of it nor the solutions ...that's not in my forte.
I'm merely disputing the "all the country" is a hotspot theory.
Even Erla's initial ten point plan focussed on certain communities because hotspots Screenshot_20240521-211353.jpgScreenshot_20240521-211500.jpg
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Or we deal with it holistically.
I prefer holistically.
But even if you want to list five or six hotspots that you want to lockdown, send the might of state protective services and crush crime, they can only do so with the legislation to back them. The CoP says so herself in the Newsday article. How can these lockdowns work when the bills with the requisite authority to do what you are advocating are shut down by the UNC? We can't avoid that fact.
Talking race gets the small-minded racists excited but talking about actual legal policy is boring to them.
alfa wrote:When criminals with illegal guns kill each other over turf or mashing someone's Jordans no one cares, cuz let's be real they're actually doing the job of the police who has failed. AR-15 toting youths killing other AR-15 toting youths means less AR-15s on the street.
When innocent people get killed or are victims of home invasions it hits closer to home for law abiding citizens.
That's why although the majority of inmates are black people complain of crime against indos. It has nothing to do with race except for those who are looking for a scapegoat to blame while ignoring the massive elephant in the room
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