*** The home invasion thread***

[alfa]

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/trinidad-and-tobago


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Strangely enough the Canadian govt lists home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime. But burglaries down so the Canadian govt lying, Kamla fed them wrong info. Also look at the areas they specifically mentioned but Rowley says crime is all over the world.

1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

2) Both the US and CA say that home invasions are common. Where have I said they are not?

You are unable to answer my questions so you have to spin which I know you will question 1 (if you even try to answer it). Then you have to make a strawman argument which is a logical fallacy where you have to misrepresent my words in order to pathetically try to beat it.

You look super insecure and intimidated. Quote me and refute my argument. Putting words in my mouth is a cop out.

Question 1 was answered previously in another post if you had taken the time to read instead of just randomly posting anything to defend the govt

Not gonna waste my time to retype. The only person is spinning is you as you constantly pull the 'out of context' argument to the ' I refuse to be baited' to shifting the goalpost from
'Rowley only enquired about Warner's FUL' to
'so he asked GG to fast track it but it's not illegal'.
So miss me with your BS.

[zoom rader]

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/trinidad-and-tobago


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Strangely enough the Canadian govt lists home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime. But burglaries down so the Canadian govt lying, Kamla fed them wrong info. Also look at the areas they specifically mentioned but Rowley says crime is all over the world.

1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

2) Both the US and CA say that home invasions are common. Where have I said they are not?

You are unable to answer my questions so you have to spin which I know you will question 1 (if you even try to answer it). Then you have to make a strawman argument which is a logical fallacy where you have to misrepresent my words in order to pathetically try to beat it.

You look super insecure and intimidated. Quote me and refute my argument. Putting words in my mouth is a cop out.

Habit7 u are a coward and i am calling u out on this .

U cant even answer simple question by tuners

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Another one reported, this time in grande... Is to kill all one time, but men in here don't like killing pests, they cry like pu&&#1s about human rights.

[pugboy]

you said home invasions are an unofficial subset of burglaries and the numbers going down drastically under erla
now you saying they are common ?
why you keep contradicting yourself

stop talking about who super insecure and insulting ppl when you are being shown to be self contradicting
dont shoot the messengers

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/trinidad-and-tobago


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Strangely enough the Canadian govt lists home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime. But burglaries down so the Canadian govt lying, Kamla fed them wrong info. Also look at the areas they specifically mentioned but Rowley says crime is all over the world.

1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

2) Both the US and CA say that home invasions are common. Where have I said they are not?

You are unable to answer my questions so you have to spin which I know you will question 1 (if you even try to answer it). Then you have to make a strawman argument which is a logical fallacy where you have to misrepresent my words in order to pathetically try to beat it.

You look super insecure and intimidated. Quote me and refute my argument. Putting words in my mouth is a cop out.

[zoom rader]

you said home invasions are an unofficial subset of burglaries and the numbers going down drastically under erla
now you saying they are common ?
why you keep contradicting yourself

stop talking about who super insecure and insulting ppl when you are being shown to be self contradicting
dont shoot the messengers

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/trinidad-and-tobago


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Strangely enough the Canadian govt lists home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime. But burglaries down so the Canadian govt lying, Kamla fed them wrong info. Also look at the areas they specifically mentioned but Rowley says crime is all over the world.

1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

2) Both the US and CA say that home invasions are common. Where have I said they are not?

You are unable to answer my questions so you have to spin which I know you will question 1 (if you even try to answer it). Then you have to make a strawman argument which is a logical fallacy where you have to misrepresent my words in order to pathetically try to beat it.

You look super insecure and intimidated. Quote me and refute my argument. Putting words in my mouth is a cop out.

Flip flop Habit7

The coward cant answer simple questions

[maj. tom]

Carlsen Field family robbed of US$700 during home invasion
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/carlsen-field-family-robbed-of-us700-during-home-invasion-6.2.2049855.933b81ba57

Days after a deadly home invasion in Carlsen Field, police are investigating an incident where bandits broke into a family’s home in the area.

Police said at 4.49 am on Wednesday, the victims, ages 25 and 18, secured their home by locking all windows and doors and retired to bed.

However, around 10 am they were awakened by a loud noise. Upon checking, they saw two men ransacking the living room. The men then jumped out of a window and left.

The victims immediately contacted the police and during checks realised US$700 was stolen.

Police said they received a description of the two suspects and are continuing investigations.

On Monday morning, 27-year-old Christopher Christian was shot and killed and his 66-year-old father, Matthew, was injured as they wrestled with bandits during a home invasion.

Residents in Carlsen Field, largely considered a farming community, have complained about the spate of violent home invasions and robberies.

[pugboy]

habit might say that is more of a burglary grab and run since the home owners weren’t touched or tied up and beaten

[zoom rader]

habit might say that is more of a burglary grab and run since the home owners weren’t touched or tied up and beaten

Hes just a *deleted* and talks out of his PNM arse

A coward that cant simple question

[VexXx Dogg]

legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.
legalise shotguns for home defence.


People should be protected by law when defending their sanctuaries.

[maj. tom]

At least shotgun+birdshot rather than buckshot for Castle Doctrine. Not that this government is ever going to give out FULs for that.

Because whataboutism they just "picking mango" argument that a politician likes to use. Or one race will kill out the other. PNM alternative FAXCTS u can't argue with d facts and data!!

[Chimera]

These bandits fearless because of the fact they know almost everyone is defenseless.

And even if they get caught is small bail.

D only thing will change this is when they start getting shot and killed when invading houses

[Habit7]

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/trinidad-and-tobago


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Strangely enough the Canadian govt lists home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime. But burglaries down so the Canadian govt lying, Kamla fed them wrong info. Also look at the areas they specifically mentioned but Rowley says crime is all over the world.

1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

2) Both the US and CA say that home invasions are common. Where have I said they are not?

You are unable to answer my questions so you have to spin which I know you will question 1 (if you even try to answer it). Then you have to make a strawman argument which is a logical fallacy where you have to misrepresent my words in order to pathetically try to beat it.

You look super insecure and intimidated. Quote me and refute my argument. Putting words in my mouth is a cop out.

Question 1 was answered previously in another post if you had taken the time to read instead of just randomly posting anything to defend the govt

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Not gonna waste my time to retype. The only person is spinning is you as you constantly pull the 'out of context' argument to the ' I refuse to be baited' to shifting the goalpost from
'Rowley only enquired about Warner's FUL' to
'so he asked GG to fast track it but it's not illegal'.
So miss me with your BS.

So if you can say "we know there isn't and official home invasion crime..." but then say "home invasions which Habit says doesn't exist, as a crime."
Why are trying to isolate me on something you say we all know is true?

you said home invasions are an unofficial subset of burglaries and the numbers going down drastically under erla
now you saying they are common ?
why you keep contradicting yourself

stop talking about who super insecure and insulting ppl when you are being shown to be self contradicting
dont shoot the messengers

This is a lie. I never said "the numbers going down drastically under erla"

A reporter said home invasions were increasing and the PM said no, they are happening. You all clutched your pearls and I showed that statistically at that time there was no increase the burglaries and breakings which the TTPS correlates to home invasions.

So just because the US and CA say home invasions are common, that in no way contradicts what I said.

[mero]

If it should be transparent and corruption free to acquire an FUL, why would one race kill out another?

What would qualify one race over another to acquire an FUL legally? Money?

[pugboy]

what would one race be doing to be causing the impression that they would end up being killed out
so much so rowlee saying it on tv

[maj. tom]

Dr Rowley rubbished the proposal saying that it seems as if Persad-Bissessar wants to arm a certain race of people to shoot people of another race.


https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-condemns-pm-rowleys-dangerous-racist-comment-6.2.1744905.0f82c0f257

[Habit7]

Please do not misrepresent what the man said.

Stand your Ground legislation which would mean you can attack ppl if you feel threatened and not in self defense. Coupled with a liberal FUL policy is what he said would cause a race war. And the example he cited was in states in the US with such legislation and had shootings at that time where innocent Black ppl were shot by White ppl.

So the issue is not FULs, it is Stand your Ground legislation proposed by the UNC.

He said while the People’s National Movement (PNM) campaigned on Local Government reform, the Opposition who the NTA, according to the Prime Minister, “is now in bed with” wants to bring stand your ground law to the Parliament.

On Monday the UNC announced an accommodation with the NTA to contest the upcoming Local Government Elections.

 He said both parties believe that to curb crime they have to militarise the population and added that he had no choice but to believe it was racially skewed.

“If you see somebody you don’t like you shoot them and you tell the police. I was afraid of that person, a child ball bounce into your yard and the mother come behind to follow the child and at the end of the day I am saying it here tonight in St James, if you all don’t believe me, don’t doubt me that is a policy that is simply saying is a dog whistle that they going to give people of a certain race guns to shoot people of another race because they are saying that the crime in this country which we know is across the board is one race attacking another race,” Dr Rowley said.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/govt-ap ... a0287ee4a0

[alfa]

If it should be transparent and corruption free to acquire an FUL, why would one race kill out another?

What would qualify one race over another to acquire an FUL legally? Money?

Is it that only one race has the finances to 'buy ' FULs in order to kill bandits who are primarily from another race? Or are they trying to kill innocent people from another race? Either suggestion is racist.
Fact is people want FULs to protect themselves from bandits of any race

[alfa]

Please do not misrepresent what the man said.

Stand your Ground legislation which would mean you can attack ppl if you feel threatened and not in self defense. Coupled with a liberal FUL policy is what he said would cause a race war. And the example he cited was in states in the US with such legislation and had shootings at that time where innocent Black ppl were shot by White ppl.

So the issue is not FULs, it is Stand your Ground legislation proposed by the UNC.

Have you confirmed that is in fact what the UNC meant with stand your ground or are you just using the US definition of the law?

[pugboy]

funny thing is according to habit quote above
it is rowlee who start the race talk by saying it is racially skewed

of course habit will deny that rowlee said that too
or claim he said it in a diff context

[mero]

what would one race be doing to be causing the impression that they would end up being killed out
so much so rowlee saying it on tv

Idk, all races seem to love crime, badness, bloodshed and corruption in this country. Not so? Be specific

[pugboy]

one might surmise based on rowlee statement that it seems one race wants legal guns for some reason

what would one race be doing to be causing the impression that they would end up being killed out
so much so rowlee saying it on tv

Idk, all races seem to love crime, badness, bloodshed and corruption in this country. Not so? Be specific

[Habit7]

Please do not misrepresent what the man said.

Stand your Ground legislation which would mean you can attack ppl if you feel threatened and not in self defense. Coupled with a liberal FUL policy is what he said would cause a race war. And the example he cited was in states in the US with such legislation and had shootings at that time where innocent Black ppl were shot by White ppl.

So the issue is not FULs, it is Stand your Ground legislation proposed by the UNC.

Have you confirmed that is in fact what the UNC meant with stand your ground or are you just using the US definition of the law?

"If you have a licensed firearm and your family’s life is at risk our stand your ground law will allow you to shoot to defend your life, family, limb and property without fear of being charged."
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AhSVfbe8x6bYg4zb/

funny thing is according to habit quote above
it is rowlee who start the race talk by saying it is racially skewed

of course habit will deny that rowlee said that too
or claim he said it in a diff context

Thanks for telling me what I would say. I am sure for you it is much easier than dealing with what I do say.

[mero]

If it should be transparent and corruption free to acquire an FUL, why would one race kill out another?

What would qualify one race over another to acquire an FUL legally? Money?

Is it that only one race has the finances to 'buy ' FULs in order to kill bandits who are primarily from another race? Or are they trying to kill innocent people from another race? Either suggestion is racist.
Fact is people want FULs to protect themselves from bandits of any race

What's the general consensus on 2nr?

[zoom rader]

what would one race be doing to be causing the impression that they would end up being killed out
so much so rowlee saying it on tv

Idk, all races seem to love crime, badness, bloodshed and corruption in this country. Not so? Be specific

I take offense,

Rastafari not on dat

We on Jah and herbs

[VexXx Dogg]

If it should be transparent and corruption free to acquire an FUL, why would one race kill out another?

What would qualify one race over another to acquire an FUL legally? Money?

Is it that only one race has the finances to 'buy ' FULs in order to kill bandits who are primarily from another race? Or are they trying to kill innocent people from another race? Either suggestion is racist.
Fact is people want FULs to protect themselves from bandits of any race

say it louder for the dunces in the back, or those pushing any other BS narrative

[pugboy]

fyzabad again

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/family- ... e-invasion

[gastly369]

fyzabad again

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/family- ... e-invasion

I'll say it simple.... Fyzo popo know exactly where and who these "pest" are

[wing]

Guns are easily available via MP Tancoo, just have to pass the payment and hold on a couple of months.

[pugboy]

the gang bosses behind most home invasions are quite well known…

fyzabad again

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/family- ... e-invasion

I'll say it simple.... Fyzo popo know exactly where and who these "pest" are

[bluefete]

(1) can you cite any law in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago which names home invasion as an offence?

wait. Are you saying that the words "home invasions" as used by the media and police are not a crime in T&T?

You mean these muddaress criminals are doing nothing wrong when they beat, rape and murder people, once it is classified as a home invasion?

Enlighten me, please because English used to be very easy for me to understand long time.