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Will Rowley/Hinds SoE be effective in curbing Crime?

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » December 30th, 2024, 5:20 pm

Ian responds to the State of Emergency in T&T; warrants under the AJIPAA crippling police efforts


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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby MaxPower » December 30th, 2024, 5:21 pm

Trinis,

Are you happy with the SOE?

Remember NO curfew….so when criminals get the heads up that they are going to be raided by the TTPS…..start up the car and drive around freely at any time of the day.

The point of the SOE is to stay your asses home….NO movement. Allow the TTPS to conduct their operations freely. But no, the whole public and the whole of the law enforcement on the road at the same damn time.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 5:23 pm

MaxPower wrote:Trinis,

Are you happy with the SOE?

Remember NO curfew….so when criminals get the heads up that they are going to be raided by the TTPS…..start up the car and drive around freely at any time of the day.

The point of the SOE is to stay your asses home….NO movement. Allow the TTPS to conduct their operations freely. But no, the whole public and the whole of the law enforcement on the road at the same damn time.
Even Max saying this shite not making sense. PNM for the win
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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby st7 » December 30th, 2024, 5:38 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Ian responds to the State of Emergency in T&T; warrants under the AJIPAA crippling police efforts



hello 360p, been a looong time

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby Dohplaydat » December 30th, 2024, 5:42 pm

st7 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Ian responds to the State of Emergency in T&T; warrants under the AJIPAA crippling police efforts



hello 360p, been a looong time


Quite good for 360p though

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 30th, 2024, 5:50 pm

5 pages in one day... Allyuh fckers on a roll...

Most amount of memes and trolls I've seen, was today! Tanty kpb looking like a bright star... Got to feel for the mites, no way to spin the bs

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 6:04 pm

MaxPower wrote:Trinis,

Are you happy with the SOE?

Remember NO curfew….so when criminals get the heads up that they are going to be raided by the TTPS…..start up the car and drive around freely at any time of the day.

The point of the SOE is to stay your asses home….NO movement. Allow the TTPS to conduct their operations freely. But no, the whole public and the whole of the law enforcement on the road at the same damn time.
Max time to ban carnival

You know that Carnival is a money laundering scam used by band leaders and fete promoters

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 6:07 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:5 pages in one day... Allyuh fckers on a roll...

Most amount of memes and trolls I've seen, was today! Tanty kpb looking like a bright star... Got to feel for the mites, no way to spin the bs
Well bro an offshore worker is missing so PNM have to spin it as their health & safety record is as worse as the record murder rate

Mero, Wing, Joe quiet on the missing oil worker.

Eliteauto is hiding as usual

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby MaxPower » December 30th, 2024, 6:09 pm

zoom rader wrote:Max time to ban carnival

You know that Carnival is a money laundering scam used by band leaders and fete promoters


How long have i said this?

A waste of productivity.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 6:13 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Max time to ban carnival

You know that Carnival is a money laundering scam used by band leaders and fete promoters


How long have i said this?

A waste of productivity.
Just think that taxpayers' monies is given away to this nonsense.

That goes to both chutney and kiaso

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby 16 cycles » December 30th, 2024, 6:14 pm

Hope the media keeps track of # of road blocks and revenue generated

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby PariaMan » December 30th, 2024, 6:17 pm

Hate to hear people talking shite about the opposition not helping the government

The government did not need help to hire or fire Hinds or Earla and they are the main reasons we are in deep shite at the moment

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby MaxPower » December 30th, 2024, 6:27 pm

An SOE is only effective with competent law enforcement.

A curfew is highly recommended, it’s makes detection easier.

The TTPS basically relaxing in roadblocks, picking and choosing who to stop, who to harass, just buying time to APPEAR as if they are doing effective policing.

Gangs are so connected with the police service, only small fries will be shaken down.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 30th, 2024, 6:47 pm

Country gonna be "saved" right before carnival... Just wait and see

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby paid_influencer » December 30th, 2024, 6:47 pm

Ian on TV now explaining about the Administration of Justice act (AJIPA) passed last year.

He is saying the legislation passed by the PNM in December 2023 (last year) changed the procedure for getting warrants. It moved the warrant from being signed by a JP to only being signed by a Master (a judge above a magistrate). A physical copy of the warrant also has to be given to the suspect.

Ian explaining many times this year the police were ready to pounce on a suspect, but the additional procedures delayed the warrant until after everything was done and gone.

The SoE sidesteps around that, but the bad AJIPA law passed by the PNM last year still on the books and not being corrected. He saying is that AJIPA law specifically that make we reach this stage with crime so bad this year.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 6:54 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Country gonna be "saved" right before carnival... Just wait and see
No Sir, the PNM gang leaders & thugs are much smarter.

Off course, they will chill a bit, but after Carnival money have to make so it back to normal.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 6:55 pm

MaxPower wrote:An SOE is only effective with competent law enforcement.

A curfew is highly recommended, it’s makes detection easier.

The TTPS basically relaxing in roadblocks, picking and choosing who to stop, who to harass, just buying time to APPEAR as if they are doing effective policing.

Gangs are so connected with the police service, only small fries will be shaken down.
Gangs and home invaders are much smarter than any PNM MP or police.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 6:58 pm

zoom rader wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Country gonna be "saved" right before carnival... Just wait and see
No Sir, the PNM gang leaders & thugs are much smarter.

Off course, they will chill a bit, but after Carnival money have to make so it back to normal.
Exactly those men gonna bide their time and wait it out. Then as soon as the SOE is lifted they will resurge. Lots of roadblocks out , passed through two and they stopping the likely suspects tiida and aqua men

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby PariaMan » December 30th, 2024, 7:00 pm

hover11 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Country gonna be "saved" right before carnival... Just wait and see
No Sir, the PNM gang leaders & thugs are much smarter.

Off course, they will chill a bit, but after Carnival money have to make so it back to normal.
Exactly those men gonna bide their time and wait it out. Then as soon as the SOE is lifted they will resurge. Lots of roadblocks out , passed through two and they stopping the likely suspects tiida and aqua men

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The intention is just to cut the toll before the elections

Rowley and his cohorts do not care if it goes back up after the election

Pick sense from nonsense

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby paid_influencer » December 30th, 2024, 7:00 pm

Ian making a point about only the people with sure salary asking for Curfew

TV6 news on now. Urvashi get real big

edit: new weathergirl is nice :o

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 7:05 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Ian making a point about only the people with sure salary asking for Curfew

TV6 news on now. Urvashi get real big

edit: new weathergirl is nice :o
1% behind this

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 7:17 pm

NATIONAL Transformation Alliance (NTA) political leader Gary Griffith and Patriotic Front political leader Mickela Panday have said the declaration of a state of emergency (SoE) will not solve crime.

They made their respective comments in separate statements on December 30 in response to a proclamation by President Christine Kangaloo declaring an SoE.

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/12/30/update ... -to-crime/

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby pugboy » December 30th, 2024, 7:17 pm

they need soe in the areas them pests controlling and use as their getaway routes
eg st barbs rd, dan kelly

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 7:19 pm

Then PNMites will bawl that they being victimized, they need to lock down st Paul Street, Beetham, east Pos, laventille, morvant
pugboy wrote:they need soe in the areas them pests controlling and use as their getaway routes
eg st barbs rd, dan kelly


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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby pugboy » December 30th, 2024, 7:23 pm

she pack on some pounds

paid_influencer wrote:Ian making a point about only the people with sure salary asking for Curfew

TV6 news on now. Urvashi get real big

edit: new weathergirl is nice :o

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby alfa » December 30th, 2024, 7:25 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Ian making a point about only the people with sure salary asking for Curfew

TV6 news on now. Urvashi get real big

edit: new weathergirl is nice :o

Been saying this since the COVID days. Personally I don't think an SOE or curfew is needed to solve crime. It will keep criminals at bay until it blows over but that's all.
Only way I could see this making sense is if they go door to door in hotspots searching every house. Police identified the number of gangs in Trinidad some years ago, this is their time to crack down on them.
But I honestly feel this is just too calm down the killings till election

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 7:25 pm

A 1% SOE.....them Syrians in they Glee, profits unaffected

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby zoom rader » December 30th, 2024, 7:38 pm

Amazing all the PNM clowns are silent

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby The_Honourable » December 30th, 2024, 7:39 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Ian on TV now explaining about the Administration of Justice act (AJIPA) passed last year.

He is saying the legislation passed by the PNM in December 2023 (last year) changed the procedure for getting warrants. It moved the warrant from being signed by a JP to only being signed by a Master (a judge above a magistrate). A physical copy of the warrant also has to be given to the suspect.

Ian explaining many times this year the police were ready to pounce on a suspect, but the additional procedures delayed the warrant until after everything was done and gone.

The SoE sidesteps around that, but the bad AJIPA law passed by the PNM last year still on the books and not being corrected. He saying is that AJIPA law specifically that make we reach this stage with crime so bad this year.


AJIPA Law: https://newsday.co.tt/2023/12/20/ag-jps ... -offences/

With respect to AJIPA and warrants, I believe it was to hold TTPS more accountable when applying for one as a Master of the Court will be more meticulous than a Justice of the Peace (JP). Many times, the courts have reprimanded both the TTPS and JPs for flawed and abusive warrants which taxpayers paid out to the affected parties in damages.

From Ian's explanation it's harder for the TTPS to access a Master to get a warrant. By the time you get one, the opportunity to arrest and seize evidence is lost. What that tells me is that the AG and the PNM did not prepare other bodies, in this case the judiciary, by hiring more Masters and cater for the fast processing of warrants. The SOE temporarily bypasses this problem.

The judiciary itself is in a mess and CJ Archie fedup talk year after year so i'm not surprised.

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Re: T&T declares State of Emergency 2024

Postby hover11 » December 30th, 2024, 7:40 pm

zoom rader wrote:Amazing all the PNM clowns are silent
Wing ,mero, joe , elite auto cat have their tongue...I couldn't even picture habit7 defending this crap and he use to go above and beyond.

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