Cancer treatment

[alfa]

The fipronil is used for termites and is widely available, not sure if it was ever banned. But other stuff is only available to licenced users in the US.
Even grammoxzone recently got banned here so we're catching up. I tried to locate it in Agri shops and no luck

[Dizzy28]

When my father did his chemo the options were St James and Sangre Grande. He often drove himself to Chemo as he never wanted to lose independence so St James was just so much more convenient. I work In POS so always a call away anyhows.

With the exception of wait times the experience was always good.

I dunno but I found the cancer places had the best nurses in the entire public health care system. Caura and St James nurses actually have empathy.

[daring dragoon]

Caura cancer care is hospice care. they send you there when all other treatment has run it course and the cancer comes back. i new a few who died there in the last few years. most of the persons i know with cancer is women so it seems to affect women more or maybe women are more willing to talk about it.

[pugboy]

end stage medical industry aka palliative care as well as geriatric end stage is a booming industry locally presently
docs offering home visit care and full range of pharmacy etc for big bucks

[Dizzy28]

Caura cancer care is hospice care. they send you there when all other treatment has run it course and the cancer comes back. i new a few who died there in the last few years. most of the persons i know with cancer is women so it seems to affect women more or maybe women are more willing to talk about it.

Caura is palliative care which includes things like the mental health of patients. Its not only the end of life support associated with hospice care. There are support groups which meet at Caura.

My father lived with Cancer for 3.5 years and went to Caura for almost all that time as there is also a doctor there who does check ups and the pharmacy at Caura also dispensed prescriptions including morphine.

[88sins]

with all the money spent on cancer treatment why no money spent on cancer education. educate persons especially young girls and women the dangers of all these makeup and shampoos and all other cosmetic causes of cancer such as perfumes, sanitary pads and tampons etc. most feel they have to smell nice all the dam time and used deodorant and makeup all the time. educated on the use of microwaves, preservatives and label foods such a red mango, process meats such a hot dogs as foods to eat on a rare occasion. require all plastic water bottles to print boldy " DO NOT REUSE THE BOTTLE OR DO NOT CONSUME AFTER WATER BOTTLE IS LEFT IN HEAT" in fact do these groceries store beverages in plastic bottles in a cool place?
All the 5K and scotia cancer crap does the money raised ever reach a person battling cancer? simple as persons who lose their jobs and cannot travel to get to st james for treatment why isnt there a cancer bus pass. It is too much to handle in my opinion.
It is time to start identifying business that support cancer fund raisers and such so that others can support their business. Business such as sunshine roti shop should be supported as they support persons with different ailments that wants to raise funds for medical. starlight pharmacy among others support, whereas other business cant even bother.

cancer education is of little comfort to the person diagnosed with late stage lung cancer who's a health freak that never smoked a day in their life, or the colon cancer patient that happened to be a devout strict vegan. Cancer is complicated.


An issue I see is that sometimes people tend to look at cancer the wrong way . They see it as an invading entity that has come to destroy you, when in fact it's simply a metabolic disease, where your own cells in your own body simply went haywire and start replicating rapidly ount of control and not dying like they should in addition to not functioning normally.

[pugboy]

^correct
the prevailing mindset is that cancer is often caused by what you eat or your lifestyle or at least when it happens they start looking for something to point a finger at
which can be true in some cases but it doesn’t explain the fact that a large percentage of healthy lifestyle folks still get cancer
it have pipers on my street over 70 and smoking more than a chimney and looking healthy as ever

[daring dragoon]

with all the money spent on cancer treatment why no money spent on cancer education. educate persons especially young girls and women the dangers of all these makeup and shampoos and all other cosmetic causes of cancer such as perfumes, sanitary pads and tampons etc. most feel they have to smell nice all the dam time and used deodorant and makeup all the time. educated on the use of microwaves, preservatives and label foods such a red mango, process meats such a hot dogs as foods to eat on a rare occasion. require all plastic water bottles to print boldy " DO NOT REUSE THE BOTTLE OR DO NOT CONSUME AFTER WATER BOTTLE IS LEFT IN HEAT" in fact do these groceries store beverages in plastic bottles in a cool place?
All the 5K and scotia cancer crap does the money raised ever reach a person battling cancer? simple as persons who lose their jobs and cannot travel to get to st james for treatment why isnt there a cancer bus pass. It is too much to handle in my opinion.
It is time to start identifying business that support cancer fund raisers and such so that others can support their business. Business such as sunshine roti shop should be supported as they support persons with different ailments that wants to raise funds for medical. starlight pharmacy among others support, whereas other business cant even bother.

cancer education is of little comfort to the person diagnosed with late stage lung cancer who's a health freak that never smoked a day in their life, or the colon cancer patient that happened to be a devout strict vegan. Cancer is complicated.


An issue I see is that sometimes people tend to look at cancer the wrong way . They see it as an invading entity that has come to destroy you, when in fact it's simply a metabolic disease, where your own cells in your own body simply went haywire and start replicating rapidly ount of control and not dying like they should in addition to not functioning normally.

i realize it is of little comfort to those with cancer. i saw a 16 year old girl with breast cancer at st james recently an it was just sad. i just think something needs to be done to prevent rather than treat cancer.

[88sins]

I hear you, but the plain truth is prevention is technically impossible, and literally everyone everywhere has, had or will have some form of extremely early stage cancer during their lifetime. I'm talking about the moment a cell replicates and the copy it produces has a defect that alters the way it functions.

For most of us, our immune systems will prevent it from developing into a problem. The immune system will destroy them when it encounters the defective cells. For the unfortunate others, those defective cells will develop in such a way that the immune system doesn't recognize their defect, thus doesn't destroy them, thu allowing them to replicate and develop into a mass.
Awareness is good, but a high level of prevention is technically not possible right now.

[timelapse]

Preach brother.
Everything manufactured by man is affecting the naturally occurring cancer cells in your body.They just doing their job.
Best best is to try to eat healthy,leave out the alco and cigarettes,vaping and whatever junk we putting in our bodies.
Exercise,walk,keep your stress levels down.

[88sins]

Preach brother.
Everything manufactured by man is affecting the naturally occurring cancer cells in your body.They just doing their job.
Best best is to try to eat healthy,leave out the alco and cigarettes,vaping and whatever junk we putting in our bodies.
Exercise,walk,keep your stress levels down.

By all means, if a healthy lifestyle is what a person wanna do, they can have at it. But just know that all you doing with that is just attempting to reduce potential risk factors.

An old wise man once said, and I'm paraphrasing a bit

If you so desire, you can only eat healthy, exercise vigorously and routinely, have no negative vices that cause deleterious effects on your body and mind, and do that for your entire life.
And in the end, you will have earned yourself the honor of being the healthiest corpse in the cemetery

[pugboy]

i met a friend of my dad today in princestown
still chain puffing the nastiest cheapest cigarettes
i know him since 80s, looking good

[88sins]

iirc

Several holding the title of verified oldest people in the world (every one of them north of a century old), both men and women, from north America, China, Europe, the middle east, smoke and drink alcohol daily for decades

ah jes sayin

[screwbash]

i think this post is crap. people dont die until their time runs out. everyone is allocated a set time until expiration an nothing you do can change that. However, those that get sick and suffer is the world way of punishing those that deserved to be punished. nature has a way of showing us that good and bad comes back to us. the world is round, wind blows around the world and comes back to where it started, the earth rotates around the sun, the milky way galaxy is spinning in a rotating fashion. do good and good will return to you, do bad and prepare to suffer.

[hover11]

i think this post is crap. people dont die until their time runs out. everyone is allocated a set time until expiration an nothing you do can change that. However, those that get sick and suffer is the world way of punishing those that deserved to be punished. nature has a way of showing us that good and bad comes back to us. the world is round, wind blows around the world and comes back to where it started, the earth rotates around the sun, the milky way galaxy is spinning in a rotating fashion. do good and good will return to you, do bad and prepare to suffer.

What about children with cancer or similar life threatening ailments why are they suffering? Sometimes bad things just happen to good people

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[pugboy]

this is another misconception
good and bad things can happen to anybody
and good things may happen to good people just as bad things may happen to bad people and vice versa

the long and short is that in life there really isn’t any concept of fairness as some would put it
it’s just a hand of cards you are dealt

sure you can try and mitigate risks but nothing is guaranteed

i think this post is crap. people dont die until their time runs out. everyone is allocated a set time until expiration an nothing you do can change that. However, those that get sick and suffer is the world way of punishing those that deserved to be punished. nature has a way of showing us that good and bad comes back to us. the world is round, wind blows around the world and comes back to where it started, the earth rotates around the sun, the milky way galaxy is spinning in a rotating fashion. do good and good will return to you, do bad and prepare to suffer.

What about children with cancer or similar life threatening ailments why are they suffering? Sometimes bad things just happen to good people

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[88sins]

this is another misconception
good and bad things can happen to anybody
and good things may happen to good people just as bad things may happen to bad people and vice versa

the long and short is that in life there really isn’t any concept of fairness as some would put it
it’s just a hand of cards you are dealt

sure you can try and mitigate risks but nothing is guaranteed

Somebody get this man a beer.

[screwbash]

talking to a rasta here in tobago an he telling me tobago have lower cases of cancer because they live natural. he say shinning bush and soursop is 2 things that people need to drink to prevent cancer in the body. shining bush tea and eat or drink the soursop. straight meat and vegetables, provision no fast food, sugar, hot dog. ras real know he bush medicine.

[hover11]

Wouldn't doubt it look at what trinis eat mostly, more kfcs than police stations. If ppl only know what they putting in their systems they would reconsider . Always drinking a soft drink or a cokes. Eventually that lifestyle will catch up with you

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[pugboy]

go look at the ingredient list for them commercial french fries

Wouldn't doubt it look at what trinis eat mostly, more kfcs than police stations. If ppl only know what they putting in their systems they would reconsider . Always drinking a soft drink or a cokes. Eventually that lifestyle will catch up with you

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[hover11]

A setta chemical infused food and then ppl wonder why the hospitals always filled. It have alot of unhealthy ppl out here due to their lifestyles. You can't be eating them thing everyday , you putting your body under pressure

go look at the ingredient list for them commercial french fries

Wouldn't doubt it look at what trinis eat mostly, more kfcs than police stations. If ppl only know what they putting in their systems they would reconsider . Always drinking a soft drink or a cokes. Eventually that lifestyle will catch up with you

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[alfa]

talking to a rasta here in tobago an he telling me tobago have lower cases of cancer because they live natural. he say shinning bush and soursop is 2 things that people need to drink to prevent cancer in the body. shining bush tea and eat or drink the soursop. straight meat and vegetables, provision no fast food, sugar, hot dog. ras real know he bush medicine.

I was researching the soursop thing and it says that soursop has been proven to kill cancer cells in mice but not enough studies has been done on humans so there might be something there
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... p#benefits
Kinda makes you wonder why aren't they moving at a faster pace in human trials

[pugboy]

prestige holdings massive

A setta chemical infused food and then ppl wonder why the hospitals always filled. It have alot of unhealthy ppl out here due to their lifestyles. You can't be eating them thing everyday , you putting your body under pressure

go look at the ingredient list for them commercial french fries

Wouldn't doubt it look at what trinis eat mostly, more kfcs than police stations. If ppl only know what they putting in their systems they would reconsider . Always drinking a soft drink or a cokes. Eventually that lifestyle will catch up with you

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[88sins]

talking to a rasta here in tobago an he telling me tobago have lower cases of cancer because they live natural. he say shinning bush and soursop is 2 things that people need to drink to prevent cancer in the body. shining bush tea and eat or drink the soursop. straight meat and vegetables, provision no fast food, sugar, hot dog. ras real know he bush medicine.

I was researching the soursop thing and it says that soursop has been proven to kill cancer cells in mice but not enough studies has been done on humans so there might be something there
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... p#benefits
Kinda makes you wonder why aren't they moving at a faster pace in human trials

3 things to keep in mind

1- There's zero long term money in a cure
2- There's even less money in a cure you can grow and take yourself for free
3- In the real world, a cancer cure is not desirable, no only wrt the financial aspect of how lucrative the industry is, but also wrt governments and population control. Humans are living longer than ever before rn. Now, imagine cancer was a thing of the past. That alone would cause a massive spike in life expectancy around the globe. Can you imagine how many old people it will have that need to be taken care of and the spike in the annual cost for that to be borne by the state aka taxpayers? And the eventual outcome would be overpopulation, an increased need for resources, a rapidly aging population, and less tax revenue to facilitate it all.

Anyway
I was researching the pharmacokinetics on soursop some years ago, it actually would work very well, especially if used in a targeted therapy like veinous or arterial embolization.
Basically, it takes advantage of cancer cells inefficient use of glucose to create ATP, which is what all cells use for energy. And it does so quiet effectively. Basically, causing cancer cells to starve to death. The effect was seen during both in vitro, and in vivo trials with animal test subjects.

Very promising indeed, but I seriously doubt we'll ever see the industry pushing for clinical trials for it unless they can find a way to patent it

[bluefete]

From the website alfa quoted:

Safety concerns for soursop

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA)Trusted Source does not approve soursop or agree with any claims that it can treat conditions such as cancer. (Because the FDA is in the pocket of big pharma!)

There are also reports of safety issues associated with cytotoxic drugs, such as hair loss and immune system suppression. Laboratory tests have revealed that the most abundant acetogenin was neurotoxic. (Since when is soursop a drug?)

Researchers say that soursop’s potentially toxic effects can vary according to the part of the plant, the extraction method, the location of the plant, and the time of harvest. (In other words - scare the living daylights out of anyone who wants to use the soursop. These people are not evil in joke.)

[88sins]

Neuropathy may be a concern, true the annonaceous acetinogensin soursop may degrade the myelin sheath that protectcs nerves.

But the real question is, which is worse?
Neuropathy from long term use/abuse, that may be temporary, for an experimental course of treatment? or cachexia that leads to death that's not so temporary death?

On a side note
paracetamol seems to have the effect of boosting the efficacy of certain drugs wen used in conjunction with certain chemotherapic treatments

Another side note
Feel free to examine the correlation between the frequency of/if/when/how/what/ malignant carcinomas occur in diabetics, whether on metformin or insulin or not

[MaxPower]

IMO,

The world isn’t ready to cure cancer.

In this day and age, with advancing technology, how hard is it to determine if soursop etc is a proven cure for cancer?

But if soursop is proven, many doctors would lose money and funding to Govts and associations would come to a stop. So rather than encouraging research, it’s easier to promote negativity and uncertainty with regard to cancer fighting foods.

The wife did her 8 cycles of chemo (aka red devil) for her Stage 3 TNBC with BRCA2 genes, the mastec/hysterect surgeries and 15 cycles of radiation. The skin was exactly what you would see when you google cancer radiation skin images, but has healed and almost back to normal…almost. She did get some heart and liver damage from the chemotherapy drugs.

She was given oral tablets to take for 6 months…7 days on, 7 days off - Capecitabine 500 mg. She took it for two months and stopped due to the side effects and further organ damage. We decided to come off it completely and try natural remedies. If, if the cancer does return, most of us know chemo may not/does not be as effective as the first time, but at least her organs would be in a better position for a next set of chemo.

If we were to finish the 6 month course of the Capecitabine, which was free from St James, they recommended Lynparza 150mg Tab 56s at $115,940 which is a only 2 month supply for a total 12 month course….do the maths.

So to take all that medication, spend all that money and there is still no guarantee for the cancer to return….we decided Not to go that route.

During remission, we are preparing the body to handle treatment with healthy natural foods for a possible recurrence. Life is a suspense but thats in the fight.

Soursop daily, No alcohol, Limited sugar and processed foods but she has her cheat days now and then. She also does daily PH testing for alkaline levels. She needs to start exercising more often. Body changes and life uncertainty can be demotivating, but as mentioned before, a good family support system helps alot to keep encouraging her to fight this thing.

[pugboy]

she was tested for that brca gene thing locally ?
angelina jolie removed her breasts after she found out she had the gene

[alfa]

Shows how unpredictable life is. How long has this struggle been goin on?

[MaxPower]

she was tested for that brca gene thing locally ?
angelina jolie removed her breasts after she found out she had the gene

St James supplied the test kit and advised us to pay a foreign company called Invitae Corporation online about $300usd and then $400tt to ship via Fedex to them, results took about 3 weeks

Shows how unpredictable life is. How long has this struggle been goin on?

Yep it is.

Mid 2023